Racist ex-priest Międlar tries to fly from Poland to U.K. again.

What?
Do you know what Zionism is? It has nothing to do with commies, those two were clashing before WWII. You make no sense.

Of course I know what Zionism is. Like I said, Jews will often promote one policy for Israel and a different for goys.

Open borders, gay marriage, mass migrants, destruction of the family unit, destruction of Christianity for the goys

extreme measures to get Israeli citizenship, no gay or Christian/muslim marriage whatsoever, expulsion of Muslims, stealing of Palestinian land, absolutely no citizenship to non jews - for Israelis/Jews

@Dirk diggler
His half brother was a stalinist prosecutor as far as I know. He was a member of the anticommunist opposition. So was Dorn.
Michnik is in charge of Wyborcza which criticises the far right and that's right he's hated by them.
Gross' s half Jewish - half Polish family was forced to leave Poland under the communist rule. That's probably why he hates Poland so much now.

It's not black and white really.
As for Jews in position of power, pretty much every prominent Polish politician has been 'accused' of Jewish origin by the far right. Including Kaczyński as mafketis pointed out.

Soros doesn't have sidelocks. The effigy did.

@kaprys

He should be made a persona non grata and Wyborcza seized by the state for being a threat to Polish society. Then he could have a legit claim about 'rule of law' and most Poles (the over 50% of Kukiz and PiS) would applaud such a measure.

[quote=kaprys]Gross' s half Jewish - half Polish
[quote]No such thing. According to Jewish law, a person born to a Jewish mother is 100% jewish.

@Dirk diggler
No. We have already had it. Thank you very much.
The media can't be controlled by the government even if they don't agree with their policy. We had it under the communist rule.

@Jon357
@CMS

Hey, we don't even have to worry about the migrants, apparently your very well assimilated British citizens hate gays too.

52% of British Muslims believe homosexuality should be illegal. Really progressive ey, they sound like good fun at a party. Absolutely DISGUSTING attitudes.

theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law

Then Gross isn't Jewish. His Polish mother saved his Jewish father during the war. His mother was an ethnic Pole.

an effigy is a symbolic figure not on to one likeness. wow whatever. as if that would make any difference.


He is a commie and a traitor and his influence after 1989 in collusion with WSI and other Soviet figures greatly slowed Poland in her way to independence and prosperity.

He is a very harmful influence.


Is that is an excuse for his lies and slander against Poland?

@Ironside
I don't agree with Gross. His mother was a living proof he's wrong.

You're into some kind of a conspiracy theory.
Reality is a far more simple. Israel is run by Zionists and some Jews are just commies or progressives.

@Ironside

Jewish senators congressmen amd other politicians that have dual us Israeli citizenship frequently promote one strategy for the (a liberal one) but want different thing for Israel (conservatism, closed borders)

Gay marraige, open borders, destruction of the family unit pffft that's for the goys

@sig

I agree that is a worrying sign of bigotry. Interestingly the figures for Poland a very similar - especially in rural areas. There are several polls available on the Internet but this one says 48 percent of Poles view Homosexuality as reprehensible.

rp.pl/Spoleczenstwo/170519348-Sondaz-Pew-Research-Center-48-proc-Polakow-Homoseksualizm-jest-naganny.html

@cms

I am a bit sceptical about this Pew-Research-Centre and in general in these kind of researches as lots people just lie. I think that they highest PC in country the most lies so ....

>>> Przedstawicielka Pew Research Center podała też, że według 26 proc. badanych, żona powinna być posłuszna mężowi, a 46 proc. sądzi, że społecznym obowiązkiem kobiet jest urodzenie dziecka. Zaznaczyła, ze te odsetki są o wiele niższe niż w krajach, w których dominującą religią jest prawosławie.>>>

I ma not convinced about it ....

"this" Pew Research Centre? Why 'this'?

By the way, it's generally considered fair, accurate, reliable and nonpartisan ...


Bigots are much the same wherever they are. Either screwed up emotionally or just a low IQ.

Gay marraige is illegal in Poland as our constitution states only a man and woman can be married. Poles may respect gay people, but we don't accept their beliefs nor will we allow them to brainwash polish children . Russia has the right idea w this. Yes many poles do find it reprehensible and very very few are pro gay marriage..civil unions yet but certainly not marraige or adoption of children. Even p.o. voters support the status quo

What's that got to do with the undesirable Międlar?

Idk ask cms. At least miedlar isn't culturally enriching Europeans with vans, knives, bombs and even their member.
Miedlar is okay but rybak is better.

Funny when I quoted pew research on Muslims in the past you said it was a right wing source spreading falsehoods

Why don't you take a look at Muslims opinions on gay marriage suicide bombing gender equality then tell me they're compatible with European values

He isn't culturally enriching anything...


That would be the same seedy Rybak currently in prison in Poland.

@jon357

You're right he's not culturally enriching people with a knife for having a beer on ramadanadingdong like merkels burden.

England kicks him out but let's Abu hamza and and choudry to walk the street and promote sharia law for the uk.. pathetic

Rybak is only in jail bc whiny Jews didn't like what he did. The large polish crowd around him though cheered him on.

That'srl one thing that makes us better than Poland is here we have actual free speech. He would never have been bothered by a cop and charged w a crime much less sit in jail.

That would be the two currently in prison


Nor did the Polish courts...

@jon357

About time they put those neck beards in jail. How they were able to march and promote sharia 4 uk is beyond me. Then again with a person like Khan running londonistan it's not a surprise.

No biggie rybak and miedlar will get out and continue to receive support from narodowcy. I forgot the name of the priest on a previous Nov 11 March who gave a fantastic speech to tens of thousands about how Allah and Koran have no place in Poland. Hearing him lead tens of thousands of poles screaming bog honor ojczyzna is a beautiful sight and sends a clear message that we don't want muslims. That was fine and dandy, but once you criticize Jews oh no that's to far.

Props to the one young man who was asked why he attended the March. He only said what millions of poles already think and say between their family and friends

@jon357

Speaking of Pew polls (I love pew research), over 70% of Egyptians (who are relatively moderate by M.E. standards) believe that the appropriate punishment for leaving Islam is death. I imagine you're not so naive as to think these people change their thinking the moment they get on social welfare in Europe, right? Is this the sort of ideology you want people who are coming in droves to Europe to have?

I think I'll have to start a new thread, since you want to keep focusing on this Miedlar idiot, while ignoring other rational intelligent debate.

Yes that is a good idea - trawling the internet for stories about the Muslims, who pay your wages, is not the issue here . I am sure that Breitbart has a comments section where you can talk to like minded people.

@cms

Let's be clear that I'm in Africa now, and the USG is paying my salary. Regardless, I've never 'trawled the internet' to find this information. I'd say it falls somewhere between common knowledge, and some of the threat analyses that we do. What I fail to hear from you Cms (and I'm a bit disappointed because you're one of the members whose opinion I disagree with but whom I respect) is any refutation of the things I've brought up, you refuse to engage at any level, and I imagine that's because your position is emotion based and you're heavily invested in a world view that can't be defended in the face of facts. If you said that yes, you realize that there will be a rise in rapes, trucks barreling over innocent people, bombs going off at concerts, and an uptick in crime and violence; but that you believe in some greater humanitarian good that justifies these things, that is at a least a defined position and we could have an intelligent discussion about it. But as it stands now, you seem content to just be dismissive and not address any of those points, and I'm left to assume that you're simply uncomfortable with those truths.

I also don't have any desire to go on some Breitbart comment section, I prefer to engage with those who have different opinions to learn more about my own biases and to strengthen my own arguments and my political viewpoints and position. I'm not one for echo chambers.

Oh geez, I don't get it ...
Firstly, Poland doesn't have a problem with thousands of Muslim immigrants. Why do some keep mentioning them? We really have some more serious current problems. Like our healthcare to name one.

We don't have that many Jews either ...
Secondly, there is still place for people of different beliefs in Poland. Yet nawoływanie do nienawiści na tle roznic narodowosciowych is illegal. That's why he got arrested.

Finally, how can anyone applaud Christian values in one post and talk about not wanting to get married and kinky sex with his Jewish bisexual girlfriend (shaming Jews and gays before)? It doesn't add up. Where's logic here?

@kaprys

I think that part of it is press/tv/youtube....you would be surprised how easy is to influenced peoples minds. It is sometimes like 'creating monsters in the cupboards'. I don't understand these anti Jewish posts...They lived in Poland for years and they lead peaceful life. I quite like how Kazimierz district is done now...in Krakow we have Jewish music festival every year. If looking back I think we have quite a few dishes influenced by their cuisine. I don't understand why people don't look at positive side of it.

With muslims emigrants....you are right we don't have many of them in Poland but there are lots of them in Europe...and lots are illegaI.

It is scary to think that there are thousand of people in Europe without any ID. What is the point of having borders/army if anyone can just cross border as he wishes.

As someone said majority of them are peaceful- not everyone blows up people but culture differences are big and even after settling they don't assimilate great.

@idem

I didn't know you were such a bigot and a racist. It's extremely racist for you to say that there should be national borders and that countries should look at the backgrounds of the people who come into them. In fact, I think it's racist of you to say there should be countries. Borders are imaginary lines, there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant, people can't be illegal! You pointed out that their culture is different and sometimes it clashes with our western cultures in Europe, while thats true, that's a very Neo-Nazi thing to say, you can't point that out, you are basically the same as Hitler.

It's true that we don't need any more social conservatives.


That's the thread topic.

@jon357

Unless you literally have ignored every post of mine you've ever seen on this board, there is no way I could ever be characterized as a social conservative. I'm a libertarian, I'm socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I believe in the right of people to marry whomever the please, in criminal justice reform, and in legalizing all drugs.

Or it could be widened to a discussion of free speech in Poland in general.

However having that discussion seems to mean that if you are generally a liberal live and let live person; that you should be held accountable for the actions of some rapist taxi drivers in the UK many of whom arrived in Britain even before you were born.