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Racist ex-priest Międlar tries to fly from Poland to U.K. again.



Joker - | 365    
2 Dec 2017  #61

The royals have been taking your money for centuries thru the Duchy and sovereign grant and she even owns the sea beds lol
Why would the queen to open up a McDonald's franchise? Just more greed, she's your version of crooked Hillary.
Did you know the queen is really from German ancestry? She's not even a Brit, too funny!
Now, go bow to your false idols


rozumiemnic 9 | 3,366    
2 Dec 2017  #62

frankly Joker i would rather have the royals in case someone like blair with presidential ambition tried to take over, at least Queenie could dissolve a parliament if she wished to. I mean it's not like the citizens of a republic are any better off is it?

you sound a bit bitter and jealous tbh...:):)
Joker - | 365    
2 Dec 2017  #63

I'm not jealous at all of your nasty little Country. I think the PC English are spineless jellyfish that allowed London to be taken over by Muslims. Have you been to Wembley lately?

What a hell hole that place has turned into.
And you chimps think you're so superior to the rest of the world ..... lolololol
cms 9 | 1,171    
2 Dec 2017  #64

I used to hang out a bit in Wembley in the 90s - most of the Asians there are Hindus from Uganda and Gujarat and they are an extremely successful wealthy and generally peaceful community, grateful to have been take. In as refugees by the British. There are some great restaurants there if you want some cultural enrichment
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,366    
2 Dec 2017  #65

I'm not jealous at all of your nasty little Country.

you obviously are , or you wouldnt be protesting so much..
Yes I have been to Wembley - a lot of people live there from the old colonies - so what?
Get a life instead of protesting way too much on the internet about 'the english' like a sad little sap.
idem - | 134    
2 Dec 2017  #66

Yes I have been to Wembley - a lot of people live there from the old colonies - so what?

Theoretically nothing- except the fact that some areas on London are replaced with people from previous colonies....hardly to find ingenious folks...but your country your decision.
gumishu 11 | 4,661    
2 Dec 2017  #67

There are some great restaurants there if you want some cultural enrichment

you will find more cultural enrichment in Tower Hamlets definitely
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,366    
2 Dec 2017  #68

..but your country your decision.

do you really think that? are you broken?
It does amuse me though, people whining about Wembley or Tower Hamlets, (when they dont even live there), without considering the very specific history that led to this.

dont worry though , your lovely Poland wont get like that, because there is no history of colonialism. London is a free for all and that has benefited all kinds of people has it not? Europeans too.

It's pretty simple.
Dirk diggler 5 | 1,421    
2 Dec 2017  #69

Are you talking about the same type of cultural enrichment that the restaurant goers in France faced when 4 of Merkels burdens launched a coordinated attack killing over a hundred?

Or are you talking about people being culturally enriched with a knife because they bought beer or wine during Ramadan?

Or perhaps it's the cultural enrichment of grade school children who now have lost pork, a staple in many Europeans diners. They are being culturally enriched not only with halal but even told to wear pants and not display necklaces with a cross so they don't get raped by the burdens housed courtesy of European tax payers in centers right near schools.
Joker - | 365    
2 Dec 2017  #70

Yes I have been to Wembley - a lot of people live there from the old colonies - so what?

youtu.be/-BSQg9kGoXM

I dont think you have been there latley
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,366    
2 Dec 2017  #71

i am not really bothered by what you 'think' thank you..<shrugs> I know where i have been , thanks.
You are sharing a video from the BNP. I would rather live next door to an Asian family than a BNP family tbh.
Joker - | 365    
2 Dec 2017  #72

There is plenty of video evidence of Londonistan on youtube from multiple different sources as well. You Brits live with blinders on hoping the problem goes away until it bites you in the ass. Perhaps, your Queen will save you...lol She doesnt care about her citizens, the homeless are still hungry and shes throwing another wedding party with your money..sad!
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,366    
2 Dec 2017  #73

with your money..sad!

yeh we like a nice wedding. Get over it or you just sound like a whining tool.
Arent you from Australia?
Did your ancestors come with a ball and chain or pay ten pounds? lol
idem - | 134    
2 Dec 2017  #74

@rozumiemnic

do you really think that? are you broken?

It is your decision - you give them passport/ permission to stay not some magical tooth-fairy. Yes we have completely different history and I don't judge you. UK with colonial past will always have strong ties with commonwealth countries.In my personal view people from India bring many positives to UK. Lots of them are specialists in IT, businessmen, doctors... plus ( in spite of colonial past) they are loyal to your country....as for Pakistanis....it 's different story I am afraid.
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,366    
2 Dec 2017  #75

It is your decision - you give them passport/ permission to stay not some magical tooth-fairy

not me love, the British government. I personally have never had an Indian person aks me if they could stay or have a passport.
idem - | 134    
2 Dec 2017  #76

@rozumiemnic

Don't be too precise by you I meant your Home Office but it was decision taken in your country.
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,366    
2 Dec 2017  #77

it was decision taken in your country.

not by me. Stop saying you /your/you/your / you then. be more precise in your language.
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,366    
2 Dec 2017  #78

I think that was lesson one in high school history, you don't say you/we when talking about countries and their governments.
OP jon357 70 | 12,793    
2 Dec 2017  #79

and shes throwing another wedding party with your money..sad!

They're actually footing the bill themselves. The revenues from TV networks worldwide (especially American ones) for using the live feed from the wedding will bring in millions - the family who pay for the wedding don't keep that.

Hard to see how the forthcoming Royal Wedding relates to the racist Międlar, especially since a wedding is a thing of joy, and Międlar is a stain on humanity.
Joker - | 365    
2 Dec 2017  #80

The revenues from TV networks worldwide (especially American ones) for using the live feed from the wedding will bring in millions

Its true, there are too many idiots in America that watch this royal crap. Obviously, you can count on me to turn it off:)

Hard to see how the forthcoming Royal Wedding relates to the racist Międlar

I was just responding to one of the many insults hurled by this Brit towards my country on this thread and others. See below for example.

You are talking about America, the land that worships the Dark Arts of Stupidity.

OP jon357 70 | 12,793    
2 Dec 2017  #81

Obviously, you can count on me to turn it off:)

I don't bother watching stuff like that either. Conservatively minded people often like to watch rich people on TV, hence the huge amounts that networks pay to shoiw stuff like that.

Better to concentrate efforts to fight individuals like Miedlar and his little friend Jayda, the one that Trump retweeted in order to distract public attention from his crimes.
SigSauer 1 | 260    
3 Dec 2017  #82

@jon357

I don't know anything about this Miedlar guy. 'Jayda' and Britain First are merely a reaction to lower socioeconomic class communities being overrun with 1st generation immigrants from cultures of savagery and barbarism that they view (however right or wrong) as destroying the social fabric of their neighborhoods. They see their government as less representative of them, and more interested in the welfare of foreigners. We are seeing this across Western Europe, which is precisely the reason that the AfD has had a historical victory in Germany, and why so many in the LGBTQ community are voting for them, because they see these foreigners from 7th century savage cultures as an existential threat to their own existence, destined to be thrown off the highest building in town. Progressives would do well to wake up to this fact (as we have seen, they've done so in Austria) less they drive centrists and center-right folks square into the arms of the far-right, which is good for no one. That unfortunately requires REAL dialogue, and a real discussion of the interests of those people in those areas. What will not get the job done? Virtue signaling, condescension, pontificating, and a general disdain for these people as 'less than,' which seems to be the prevailing attitude of progressives when dealing with conservatives.
OP jon357 70 | 12,793    
3 Dec 2017  #83

I don't know anything about this Miedlar guy

Worth reading up about him. He's a neo-nazi ex-priest, given to tweeting pictures of people doing fascist salutes, comes across as absolutely unhinged.

As do the loons from 'Britain First'.

merely a reaction to

The roots of their hatred long predate mass immigration.
SigSauer 1 | 260    
3 Dec 2017  #84

@jon357

The problem is that within the message from English Defence League and Britain First, there are elements of truth. That they can find no one to represent their interests in there, is fuel to these movements fire. Mainstream political parties in England would do well to address the legitimate gripes within their messages, so as to pull their supporters away from extremism. Is it that hard to understand?

You can look at the things that have happened to Tommy Robinson for instance. He was essentially imprisoned for saying 'mean things' and hurting peoples feelings. That is one thing I am struggling to understand about the UK's laws on speech. No one has the right to not be offended or feel uncomfortable. I think that putting him in prison for being mean, 1. only added to his stature, and 2. probably increased his supporters. See, lost inside the obsessing over the person delivering the message, is the actual message, like the 16 year old girl charged with "hate speech" (in quotes because hate speech is a made up, fake term, just like white privilege) for insulting her 29 year old Turkish-born rapist. Or for instance the Rotheram sex-ring run by Pakis. Those are real constituents, of lower SES backgrounds, and their voices are not being represented anywhere.

So the point is, the mainstream parties should find a way to include those people into their fold and take the wind from the sails of people like Britain First.
OP jon357 70 | 12,793    
3 Dec 2017  #85

within the message from English Defence League and Britain First

They don't have much of a message or many supporters. When they tried to organise a rally in Liverpool, one of Britain's largest cities, fewer than 20 people showed up.

Mainstream political parties in England

They get the support, the votes. The two fringe groups you mentioned above do not. The 'Britain First' fascists stand for election and never get above 300 votes.

When the racist Międlar (the topic of this thread) was expected to address a 'mass rally' they organised, the number who attended was only in double figures.

a way to include those people

All 300 of their voters?
cms 9 | 1,171    
3 Dec 2017  #86

I thought Robinson was jailed for mortgage fraud ?

They are allowed to have rallies - nobody turns up. They are allowed to stand in elections - nobody votes for them.
SigSauer 1 | 260    
3 Dec 2017  #87

@cms

Fair play. I'm not much interested in fringe political candidates or movements like theirs, I think the massive amount of attention given to them is unnecessary. I do think however it would be productive to talk about the state of the UK government which did arrest 4,000 people last year for 'mean' posts on social media that caused some people to be 'distressed' (god forbid). Or the fact that they allowed a Paki sex ring to operate for years in Rotheram. Or the most egregious I've read in the news, a 16 year old girl getting charged with 'hate speech' (a fake made up term) for insulting her 29 year old Turkish born rapist.

Let's address those things. Because they are real, and they cause real harm to CITIZENS of the UK, in favor of FOREIGNERS.
SigSauer 1 | 260    
3 Dec 2017  #88

@cms

I think you're right. But, likely his records were only examined because of his high profile nature, meaning the authorities used it as a weapon against his speech. Investigating people who have not committed a crime, but who say unpopular things, and using it as a way to stifle their speech is an egregious abuse of power.
cms 9 | 1,171    
3 Dec 2017  #89

I doubt it - in Britain the prosecution is brought by the crown not by the govt. unlike
Poland of course where Ziobro decides who goes on trial. So an independent monarchy does have some value. He defrauded his mortgage company and that is a little less heroic than going to prison for his beliefs.

I agree that the hate speech laws were too hasty, not thought through and counter productive. I don't think that is a justification for extreme racism howeve - it's a symptom not a cause.
idem - | 134    
3 Dec 2017  #90

Or the fact that they allowed a Paki sex ring to operate for years in Rotheram

.....and police ,social services knew about it but did nothing for years frightened to be accused of racism. When you think about it how many young girls were hurt and their life is broken now I would say that this disgust me more than Britain First actions.




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