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Racist ex-priest Międlar tries to fly from Poland to U.K. again.



jon357 70 | 12,793    
22 Jun 2017  #1

He must be a glutton for punishment. Last time he tried to enter the UK (to address a neo-nazi rally in Telford that fortunately went off like a damp squib) he was refused entry. Now he's announced he's going to try to enter to address a similar event elsewhere in the Midlands. Hopefully he'll be turned away at the border as last time.

fakt.pl/wydarzenia/polityka/czym-zajmuje-sie-jacek-miedlar/mcwmfq0
hopenothate.org.uk/2017/06/22/jacek-miedlar-jew-hater-martyr/


Ironside 46 | 8,406    
22 Jun 2017  #2

What is the legal justification of him being refused entry to the uk?
By the way he is not racist.
gregy741 3 | 981    
22 Jun 2017  #3

Racist ex-priest Międlar
i never heard of him having any conviction for racist offences.

What is the legal justification of him being refused entry to the uk?

last time,they kiked him out it was "threat to security"
OP jon357 70 | 12,793    
22 Jun 2017  #4

The legal justification is that he was coming specifically to make trouble and the Home Office considered this a risk.

And yes, he is very much a racist - and an outspoken one too. About this issue, I-S, it's a good idea to read the links before commenting.

Great he's been kicked out of religious ministry too.
gregy741 3 | 981    
22 Jun 2017  #5

The legal justification is that he was coming specifically tomake trouble and the Home Office considered this a risk.

madness,considering Home Office couldnt remove abu hamza for years.
OP jon357 70 | 12,793    
22 Jun 2017  #6

That would be the guy who came legally, was arrested, jailed and subsequently extradited to the US.

It did take a while, however the law has to be followed - same for him and Międlar.
Ironside 46 | 8,406    
22 Jun 2017  #7

And yes, he is very much a racist - and an outspoken one too.

Well he is not. If he is an anti-Semite I don't know. I think he might be a little lost and misguided. I haven't been paying attention. If he is an anti-Semite is not a crime.

By the way he hadn't refer to the Jews as a 'cancer'. It has been taken out of context by the lefties liars.
OP jon357 70 | 12,793    
22 Jun 2017  #8

Well he is not. If he is an anti-Semite I don't kno

He is.

By the way he hadn't refer to the Jews as a 'cancer'.

He did.
Wulkan - | 3,218    
23 Jun 2017  #9

Racist ex-priest Międlar

He is not racist, stop spreading fake news.

in the Midlands

10 minutes drive from me. I will be delighted to attend.

Hopefully he'll be turned away at the border as last time.

Nobody hopes that the law will be broken again apart from you and other pond life The Guardian readers.
Harry 81 | 13,431    
23 Jun 2017  #10

madness,considering Home Office couldnt remove abu hamza for years.

Yes, it appears that lessons have been learned about the fact that once they've been let in it's hard to get foreign racists out, so it's better to just not let them in.

10 minutes drive from me. I will be delighted to attend.

I'm sure you will enjoy being in the company of racist failures. Why not take the kids too? The three of you together would probably double the size of the crowd.
Wulkan - | 3,218    
23 Jun 2017  #11

I'm sure you will enjoy being in the company of racist failures.

You don't pay attention, I didn't say I'm going to meet you this Sunday.

Why not take the kids too?

I'll take my Mrs, kids have a different schedule plus we expect a lot of lowlife thugs who cover their faces and call themselves "antifa" not a safe place for children.
OP jon357 70 | 12,793    
23 Jun 2017  #12

I'm sure you will enjoy being in the company of racist failures. Why not take the kids too? The three of you together would probably double the size of the crowd.

Have you seen some of the people who travel to those events? Usually there are many more locals objecting to them polluting there town than there are racist troublemakers.

The guy's a frondeur, and the law exists to keep them from making trouble.

It will be interesting to see how this one plays out.
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,366    
23 Jun 2017  #13

to be honest, while I do not know what this Miedlar guy has to say, he should be allowed to say it to people who want to listen to him. As long as he is not stirring up active racial hatred.

Freedom of speech and freedom to gather in a group , I believe.
OP jon357 70 | 12,793    
23 Jun 2017  #14

As long as he is not stirring up active racial hatred.

This is the issue. If he came on a private visit, there wouldn't be a problem. Unfortunately he's announced he's coming to address a rally organised by people convicted of hate crimes and made it clear that he wants to stir up trouble and division.
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,366    
23 Jun 2017  #15

rally organised by people convicted of hate crimes

names?
OP jon357 70 | 12,793    
23 Jun 2017  #16

The names of the two miscreants are probably in the linked article, the same charming pair who organised the failed event in Telford, a thoroughly unpleasant pair of individuals, Fransen and Golding, both convicted of hate crimes. They run the organisation that Jo Cox's murderer was an active member of.
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,366    
23 Jun 2017  #17

oh OK Britain First = the National Front. In that case he should not be allowed to come. Inciting racial hatred is a crime, and if he has pretty much declared that this is what he intends to do in the UK, he can eff off back to where he comes from.
OP jon357 70 | 12,793    
23 Jun 2017  #18

Quite.

In fact, I suspect the visit has little to do with anything in Britain where very few people have heard of him and even fewer care, and more to do with him getting publicity back in Poland for being turned away at the border.
Ziemowit 8 | 2,637    
24 Jun 2017  #19

to address a neo-nazi rally in Telford

to address a similar event elsewhere in the Midlands

I am surprised to hear there are neo-nazi rallies in the UK. Are there any in Poland?
gumishu 11 | 4,661    
24 Jun 2017  #20

jon thinks ONR and any/all other nationalist organizations in Poland are neo-nazis
Ironside 46 | 8,406    
24 Jun 2017  #21

Anyhow he is not an ex-priest but an ex-monk which can also be a priest. I guess for the blackwood and ignorant progressives that distinction makes no sense.

I am surprised to hear there are neo-nazi rallies in the UK. Are there any in Poland?

According to commies anything that fall into a ideological commie rhetoric are their enemies, calling them fascist, racist or what have you is only a tactical diversion a label that is used to discredit them and blacken their name in the eyes of the populace. It doesn't serve as a description of an actual fascist or racist organization.

It signals they are not one of us. They're ideological enemy. 'They' could be anyone from real fascist to honest to good church going conservatives or even libertarians. Mu oh my even classical liberal can be called that of they point out idiocy of the current commie fashion like gender equality or so called women right with feminist (nutter)commissars calling the shots.

All that is very simple Ziemowit Krakowski. ( Not to mix you up with Ziemowit Mazowiecki).
Ziemowit 8 | 2,637    
24 Jun 2017  #22

Neither of them.

I am the Ziemowit/Siemowit who was the grand-father of Mieszko I, founder and first ruler of the Polish state.
OP jon357 70 | 12,793    
24 Jun 2017  #23

Good news, he's been refused entry. The Home Office statement about it is succinct and tactful.

I guess for the blackwood and ignorant progressives that distinction makes no sense.

Looks like you are a "Blackwood and ignorant" or perhaps just expressed it badly. He was a priest and also a member of a religious order. Technically he's still a priest, albeit without permission to perform any priestly duties whatsoever and is in the process of being laicised.
Ziemowit 8 | 2,637    
24 Jun 2017  #24

So the neo-nazi rally will go on without him?

Evidently the show must go on!
OP jon357 70 | 12,793    
24 Jun 2017  #25

Evidently the show must go on!

Looks like it will be the usual damp squib, with fewer demonstrators than local residents telling them to pack it in and go home.
Ziemowit 8 | 2,637    
24 Jun 2017  #26

with fewer demonstrators than local residents telling them to pack it in

If this is so, the presence of Mr Mędlar wouldn't make any difference, would it?
OP jon357 70 | 12,793    
24 Jun 2017  #27

The Home Office evidently think otherwise. If he wants to stand on a soapbox in the street ranting about ethnic minorities to a small crowd of boneheads I'm sure there are plenty of other countries who would be willing to let him in. San Escobar for example.
johnny reb 14 | 2,265    
24 Jun 2017  #28

stand on a soapbox in the street ranting about ethnic minorities

Yet when queers stand on a soapbox in the streets ranting about immoral minorities it's called freedom of speech.
OP jon357 70 | 12,793    
24 Jun 2017  #29

Evidently the Conservative government think exactly that.

Perhaps they think that one of those situations exists and one doesn't.
delphiandomine 87 | 15,756    
24 Jun 2017  #30

Good news, he's been refused entry.

The concerns about the radicalisation of the Poles in the UK are obviously quite strong, then.




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