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English/British rudeness - what do Polish people think about it?


jon357  73 | 23112
20 Oct 2024   #121
commonplace in London in the 1950s

So no, not often.

Hard to know why you're so interested, or wg6 you think it's relevant to here.

Irish, Brits

Such an overlap on both sides.

Stop trying to provoke disagreement. Anyway, nationality issues come better from experts.
pawian  221 | 25287
20 Oct 2024   #122
why you're so interested

Darling, I have always been interested in history. That`s why. I thought you know me better than that. "_{"_"_

provoke

How talking about history can provoke disagreement?? if you feel provoked by facts, it is your problem, darling. :*:*:(*:(*:(:*
jon357  73 | 23112
20 Oct 2024   #123
if you feel provoked by facts

Be provoked by my hairy Yorkshire arse.
pawian  221 | 25287
20 Oct 2024   #124
Sorry, i am happily married, so no, thanks. hahahaha

The signs were all handwritten," he says, recalling his search for accommodation on arrival.

Not only landlords/ladies had a problem with the Irish but the British police, too

Recalling wider examples of anti-Irish discrimination, Hurley described how Irish people were targeted by the British police and unfairly prosecuted for minor offences.


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Atch  22 | 4259
20 Oct 2024   #125
It's a complex relationship between the English and the Irish - not one for a Pole to try and get his head round.

As the Kerry-born writer John B. Keane observed of his time in Northampton in the 1950s: 'The attitude of the average Englishman towards the Irish is a friendly one. He resents the Welshman and tolerates the Scot but he is prepared to enjoy the Irishman and will always meet him halfway.'
pawian  221 | 25287
20 Oct 2024   #126
not one for a Pole

And yet I am dealing with the issue coz I love such stories from the past. Ha!!!

Englishman towards the Irish is a friendly one

Of course! :):):) Who denies it??? Owners are very friendly with their dogs, too. :):):)

the British police and unfairly prosecuted for minor offences.

Irish men were prosecuted for indecent exposure if they were caught urinating outdoors on their way home from the pub on a Saturday night. The police chose to charge the men under the criminal code which came with a mandatory prison sentence.
GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
20 Oct 2024   #127
Kerry-born writer John B. Keane

What an absolute legend this man was! Thanks for reminding me, Atch. ❤️

*off to his study to grab Keane's collected humorous writings :)*
jon357  73 | 23112
20 Oct 2024   #128
The police chose to charge

That's why we don't let the police prosecute any more.
pawian  221 | 25287
20 Oct 2024   #129
You see??? If I didn`t mention British discrimination of the Irish, I would never learn this fact from you. Thanks. It reminds me of the communist times when the police called militia was also endowed with the right of prosecution in minor cases. Amasing that Brits were so close to communist methods.

or wg6 you think it's relevant to here.

It is extremely relevant. I have ventured on seeking certain correlations between the British treatment of the Irish in distant past like 50 years ago and their today`s treatment of the Polish.

Do you mean what I know now???

I hope you do. So stop asking infantile questions. :):):)
pawian  221 | 25287
20 Oct 2024   #130
British treatment of the Irish/of the Polish.

I am searching the net for info on rental signs like NO IRISH NO DOGS addressed at Polish migrants but can`t find any. Do you know of such cases???

If you don`t, does it mean the British have become less discriminatory over the years or Polish migrants were more amiable than the Irish??? Or is it simply that infamous political correctness which spread over the UK and Brits are still racists at heart???

So no, not often.

Yes, commonplace is often. You don`t know your English, it seems. :):):):)
commonplace
adjective
uk /ˈkɒm.ən.pleɪs/ us /ˈkɑː.mən.pleɪs/
happening often or often seen or experienced and so not considered to be special:

Bobko  27 | 2142
20 Oct 2024   #131
am searching the net for info on rental signs like NO IRISH NO DOGS addressed at Polish migrants

Why?

First, it's illegal. It violates the European Convention on Human Rights, and probably many UK laws.

Times have changed.

In the time period when you could see "No Irish" signs, it was not illegal.

I think even in Myanmar, today, you can't put up a sign saying "No Poles".

So, you won't find what you are searching for. Also, again, why are you searching for this? Is this forum not enough, where you can find probably 1,000 pages of Brits complaining about Poles in their country?

Who needs signs when there is a whole ocean of hatred on the internet?
pawian  221 | 25287
20 Oct 2024   #132
many UK laws.

Since when???

why?

Why are you asking stupid questions???? :):):)
pawian  221 | 25287
20 Oct 2024   #133
Brits complaining about Poles

It is understandable coz some Polish degenerated scum have invaded Britain since 2004. I once jokingly noticed I appreciate the UK for receiving them all coz Poland has become a better country in result. hahaha

If you hope your antiBritish propaganda works on me, then no, it doesn`t. Abandon the hope that I will appreciate imperial Russia more in result of your slurs. :):):)
Miloslaw  21 | 5017
20 Oct 2024   #134
Is this forum not enough, where you can find probably 1,000 pages of Brits complaining about Poles in their country?

Really? Please direct us to all the 1,000 pages on this forum where Brits are complaining about Poles in their country!

Talk about brazen Russian propaganda!

You Russians really are a joke........
Bobko  27 | 2142
20 Oct 2024   #135
If you hope your antiBritish propaganda works on me

If anything I defended Britain here, saying you will find no overt evidence of anti-Polish discrimination by businesses.

Since when???

Google and ChatGPT are your friends!

However, because I love and respect you so very much, here it is:

1.Equality Act 2010: This law prohibits discrimination on the basis of several "protected characteristics," including race and nationality. The part of the sign targeting "Poles" would amount to racial and national origin discrimination, which is illegal in providing services, including in public spaces. Discrimination against people based on their nationality or ethnicity is considered unlawful in the UK.

2.The Race Relations Act 1976 (now largely absorbed into the Equality Act): It previously governed racial discrimination and would have similarly made this practice illegal.

3.European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) (incorporated into UK law by the Human Rights Act 1998): The anti-Polish sign would violate principles of the ECHR, particularly Article 14, which prohibits discrimination on grounds such as race, ethnicity, or nationality.


So... at least since 1976 you can't have a sign that says "NO POLES".

Please direct us to all the 1,000 pages on this forum where Brits are complaining about Poles

Are you purposefully being thick? That's like 25% of this forum.
pawian  221 | 25287
20 Oct 2024   #136
You Russians really are a joke

Not a joke but a planned black propaganda campaign by the Kremlin trolls to sow ferment between Poles/Polesses and their allies: Westerners, Baltics or Ukrainians.
Bobko  27 | 2142
20 Oct 2024   #137
Kremlin trolls to sow ferment between Poles/Polesses and their allies: Westerners, Baltics or Ukrainians.

The world does not revolve around Poland, you baboon.

Can you explain why you are looking for these signs, again? Is that not "sowing ferment"?
pawian  221 | 25287
20 Oct 2024   #138
Google and ChatGPT !

You mentioned sth, you prove it. Simple. I don`t need to move a finger. :):):)

So... at least since 1976

Good. That`s what you were supposed to provide. Don`t burden others with your own tasks.

The world does not revolve around Poland

Actually, it does sometimes. WW2 started in Poland when Germany and Soviet Russia invaded us.
Ironside  50 | 12383
20 Oct 2024   #139
The world does not revolve around Poland

It doesn't? It comes as a surprise to me. Are you sure?
I think Poland is a pivotal point in the world and the whole universe.
pawian  221 | 25287
20 Oct 2024   #140
I think Poland

Of course. Jesus was Polish. Every kid in Poland knows it.
Alien  24 | 5721
20 Oct 2024   #141
Jesus was Polish

On his mother's side, he was Polish. Father unknown.
GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
20 Oct 2024   #142
Actually, it does sometimes.

Sometimes?

I think Poland is a pivotal point in the world

You think?

What's wrong with you today, guys? The Universe was created so that Poland could come into being. Don't call yourselves Poles if you doubt it.

Jesus was Polish.

That's better. :) *thumbs up*
pawian  221 | 25287
20 Oct 2024   #143
mother's side,

That`s enough. Polish Jews are Polish Jews on condition the mother is Polish Jewish.
Ironside  50 | 12383
20 Oct 2024   #144
The Universe was created so that Poland could come into being

That is obvious, there is no need to repeat truisms. Keep up Torq.
Bobko  27 | 2142
20 Oct 2024   #145
European Convention on Human Rights

Speaking of the ECHR, guess what country is in the top 3? That is, top 3 in terms of how many times their citizens complained to the European Court of Human Rights?

Ukraine!

Number 1 is Turkey (not sure what they are even doing in this organization), and number 2 is of course my beloved Russia.

Poland is number 7. The UK doesn't even appear on the list.

Considering that Poland has a population 4X smaller than Russia's, then on a per capita basis it seems Poles human rights are violated only slightly less often than those of Russians ;)


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GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
20 Oct 2024   #146
Considering that Poland has a population 4X smaller than Russia's

Considering that Poles are undisputed world champions in complaining, then it's shocking that we are not in the first position on that list.
pawian  221 | 25287
20 Oct 2024   #147
Ukraine!

Yaaawn... time to go to my Jap sumo wrest mattress at last.
Ironside  50 | 12383
20 Oct 2024   #148
to the European Court of Human Rights?

It is a court of pushing progressive agenda onto people. I bet 90% of those complaints are about some nonsense like LGBT BS or abortions.
Bobko  27 | 2142
20 Oct 2024   #149
Jap

Racist!

I bet 90% of those complaints are about some nonsense like LGBT BS or abortions.

Can't speak for the others, but the Russian cases definitely have a bunch of people arrested at Pride Parades. A lot of Chechens too.
Miloslaw  21 | 5017
20 Oct 2024   #150
Are you purposefully being thick? That's like 25% of this forum.

Then show us where to find these posts thicko.I have never seen them.Are you purposely lying?..... you are Russian, so that's a yes then!

Not a joke but a planned black propaganda campaign by the Kremlin trolls to sow ferment between Poles/Polesses and their allies: Westerners, Baltics or Ukrainians.
@ pawian

And Brits, but you are correct.

WW2 started in Poland when Germany and Soviet Russia invaded us.

A good response to Bobko's trolling.

The UK doesn't even appear on the list.

You stupid hypocrite!So where is all this Brit hatred of Poles coming from?


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