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The Daily Mail - coverage of the Polish people


enkidu 7 | 623
12 Mar 2010 #31
The swan thing originated with a Sun article. Soe people were camping out in tents near London and there were a pile of swans' wings outside. They refused to come out of the tent to speak to the reporter but said they were Polish. If I remember, the article said there was a copy of the bible in Romanian on a table by the tent flap.

Lol. "Some people near London" - That seems reliable source.
On the other hand - I admire the professionalism of the said reporter. As a Polish, I am supposed to be a kind of expert on the swan-related matters, but honestly - I couldn't distinguish a swan's wing from any other white ones. The same with the Bible in Romanian. I couldn't say if that is Romanian or any other language.

I really love this story. :-)
Seriously though - I don't understand why this story was so shocking? As far as I am aware - there is strong taboo against eating the swans in Poland, but until recently the Swan-dish was a part of British cuisine. So what the fuzz?
Harry
12 Mar 2010 #32
I don't understand why this story was so shocking?

Apart from anything else, the Crown retains the right to ownership of all unmarked mute swans in open water. So killing one is illegal and eating it means you have stolen from the queen.
wildrover 98 | 4,438
12 Mar 2010 #33
The story came from the fact that in Poland elephant is often eaten as the sunday dinner...of course in Poland an elephant is a swan...!

The dish became so popular that elephants are now seldom seen in Polish forests...
enkidu 7 | 623
12 Mar 2010 #34
Apart from anything else, the Crown retains the right to ownership of all unmarked mute swans in open water. So killing one is illegal and eating it means you have stolen from the queen.

Yeah - I understand that this is illegal. But there a lot of illegal activities happening every day. Not all of this is so "shocking" like this one.
Trevek 26 | 1,700
12 Mar 2010 #35
I couldn't distinguish a swan's wing from any other white ones

They're bigger.

The same with the Bible in Romanian. I couldn't say if that is Romanian or any other language.

it probably had it written on the front "This is a Romanian Bible". Everyone knows East Europeans would have one like that. Good job it wasn't a multi-lingual Gideon Bible or half of Europe would have been blamed too.

Of course, maybe the Bible was open at a page in "Romans", so it showed it was Romanian.
Harry
12 Mar 2010 #36
The dish became so popular that elephants are now seldom seen in Polish forests...

There's one hiding in my fridge. I know it's there: I saw footprints in the butter.
Trevek 26 | 1,700
12 Mar 2010 #37
The dish became so popular that elephants are now seldom seen in Polish forests...

Only on trunk roads.
Bzibzioh
12 Mar 2010 #38
But if British Parliament had passed a law obliging every household in the UK to buy at least one newspaper a day,

Are you serious about that?
rich55 3 | 49
14 Mar 2010 #39
Nothing has changed: look at the front page of today's Mail on Sunday....
frd 7 | 1,399
14 Mar 2010 #40
SeanBM

Do you have anymore of these, they are quite hilarious....
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
14 Mar 2010 #41
Here is an interesting site on this topic, it looks like they are watchdogs for the daily mail : mailwatch.co.uk/category/immigration

Using misleading crime stats to make readers frightened of foreigners
mailwatch.co.uk/tag/immigration

There is a lot on the net about the Daily mail and their lies and manipulation of facts and statistics.

Here is another site and article - Asylum lies and Daily Mail readers
angrymob.uponnothing.co.uk/home/70-newspaper-lies/221-aslylum-lies-and-daily-mail-readers

And more sights Lies, damned lies and the Daily Mail's interpretation of statistics
stirringupapathy.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/lies-damned-lies-and-the-daily-mails-interpretation-of-statistics
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
14 Mar 2010 #42
It p*sses off the lefties, thats good enough for me.
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
14 Mar 2010 #43
So you have nothing to say and just want people to be as hateful and angry as yourself.
You could get a job for the Daily Mail.
Trevek 26 | 1,700
14 Mar 2010 #44
Here's the latest!

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1257784/Biggest-Asda-meat-supplier-excludes-English-speakers-instructions-given-Polish.html

Of course, next week DM will run a story about how the meat factory are using Polish workers as the meat, and british cows and pigs will be protesting about all these foreigners coming over and stealing their jobs.
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
14 Mar 2010 #45
Here's the latest!

RevokeNice was good enough to inform us already: No job unless you're Polish

Unscrupulous companies abusing both locals and legal foreign workers, it is great that we have such concerned citizens like RN, who is able to look beyond nationality (sarcasm on full).

He believes ever word and blames Poles, just like the Daily Mail, he would swallow a brick if it was anti Polish.
Trevek 26 | 1,700
14 Mar 2010 #46
I think they're doing exactly what they were doing before Poland joined EU and they could give the guys legal jobs. Problem in UK is everyone likes cheap baked beans but don't want to know how they can be produced so cheaply.
milky 13 | 1,656
14 Mar 2010 #47
the Daily Mail was a famous Paddy bashing rag for years and now the Irish buy it in their own country.So its obviously just a universal idiots paper.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
14 Mar 2010 #48
Problem in UK is everyone likes cheap baked beans but don't want to know how they can be produced so cheaply.

And almost all of them would refuse to pay more for a product produced in Britain. They might give lip service about it - but in reality, none of them want to pay 25-30% more for their British produced goods.
Trevek 26 | 1,700
14 Mar 2010 #49
True.

What I was thinking of was the baked bean war, a few years ago, where beans were down to about 9p a tin. People loved it. However, the reason supermarkets were able to do this was because the farms supplying them were using a huge amount of illegal labour from Eastern Europe.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
14 Mar 2010 #50
And of course, no-one cared because they wouldn't work on the farms anyway.

I've actually offered quite a few unemployed moaners on forums work in Poland - inclusive of a bed to sleep on at night. Not one person has accepted!
Trevek 26 | 1,700
14 Mar 2010 #51
Not one person has accepted!

Of course not, they have probably never actually thought what it means to want to, be prepared to, or feel like you have to leave the comfort of home to find work.

Where are you based?
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
14 Mar 2010 #52
Are you serious about that?

What do you think?
wildrover 98 | 4,438
14 Mar 2010 #53
I've actually offered quite a few unemployed moaners on forums work in Poland

I missed that...what was the job...?
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
14 Mar 2010 #54
He offered some indian chap a job. Nobodies heard of, or seen him since.
wildrover 98 | 4,438
14 Mar 2010 #55
perhaps he ended up as a kielbasa...?
Ziemowit 14 | 4,263
15 Mar 2010 #56
Ziemowit:
But if British Parliament had passed a law obliging every household in the UK to buy at least one newspaper a day,
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Are you serious about that?

Yes, I am. Parliament is free to pass any bills it needs or thinks relevant. Some people will not comply with the bills passed by Parliament, so Her or His Majesty prepares fines, also prisons wait ready for them. My friends as law-abiding British subjects would certainly comply and - given the choice - would buy The Guardian. If Parliament were to force them to buy a daily copy of The Daily Mail, they would most probably refuse and would risk to be sent into prison instead.

The British sovereign is under the control of British Parliament either. If Parliament passed a bill to end the monarchy in Britain and ordered the Queen to get beheaded, she would have no other choice than sign the bill and put her head under the axe. Such is the logic of the constitutional monarchy in the UK, whether you like it or not. The power by Parliament over the monarch was once revealed to the monarch in full in the course of British history, with the most deplorable effect on the latter, so Queen Elisabeth II prefers to sit quiet in one of her palaces, signing every bill that Parliament kindly passes her to sign.
Trevek 26 | 1,700
15 Mar 2010 #57
I bet she'd take her time signing that one, "Efter mey loooong holidey abroad!"

I was under the impression that she had the last say on everything (although rarely went against her government).
enkidu 7 | 623
15 Mar 2010 #58
constitutional monarchy in the UK,

welll... Where I can find the British constitution? I would gladly read it.
Harry
15 Mar 2010 #59
Where I can find the British constitution?

Statutes, court judgments, treaties, lists of parliamentary constitutional conventions and the royal prerogatives. The British constitution is uncodified, not unwritten.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
15 Mar 2010 #60
I was under the impression that she had the last say on everything (although rarely went against her government).

Officially, yes. There's no override - if Royal Assent is refused, then that's that. There was an interesting constitutional crisis in Australia about 30 years ago over something similar where the Governor (in the name of the Queen) interfered with their politics.

You could say that the Queen exists to discourage anything threatening democracy - as it would seem unlikely that the Queen (or King) would allow anything to be passed which directly threatened the country.


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