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No job unless you're Polish


RevokeNice 15 | 1,860
14 Mar 2010  #1
British workers have been turned away from jobs in a local factory - for not speaking Polish.

Cooked meat manufacturer Forza AW effectively barred anyone but Poles for applying for jobs on its production line in East Anglia by insisting all staff speak the language fluently.

The company claimed it was necessary as all health and safety training was conducted in Polish.


dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1257784/Biggest-Asda-meat-supplier-excludes-English-speakers-instructions-given-Polish.html

You look at the history of the Brits, what a history and this from an Irish man. They have a lot to be proud of and indeed embarrassed about. Why, after years of killing, exploiting and abusing others are they now allowing themselves to be taken over so easily? What happened to them?
grubas 12 | 1,392
14 Mar 2010  #2
Can't they learn?
purplewolf 2 | 46
14 Mar 2010  #3
What happened to them?

They are comparatively unproductive and, to put it bluntly, just lazy.. Poles work harder, more efficiently and effectively.. It's not about discrimination, it's about cruel rules of free market.. Capitalists prefer workers who can work harder, that's so simple... I think it's kinda pathetic that modern English nationalism becomes nothing more but a crying response to meritorical dominance of non-English nations in the global job-market... It's a sign of weakness and national decadence..
Seanus 15 | 19,706
14 Mar 2010  #4
That would be blatant discrimination. Then again, that would be The Daily Mail.
grubas 12 | 1,392
14 Mar 2010  #5
I understand they were turned away not for not being polish but for not speaking polish.right or wrong?
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,860
14 Mar 2010  #6
Imagine if an employer advertised for "Brits Only" or ‘No Polish Wanted’.

I have noticed a sharp increase in job offers here "as gaelige". A most welcome development.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
14 Mar 2010  #7
It's simply not allowed. Also, those Polish agencies in London are worth a look. Getting people set-up is one thing but placing them is quite another. Too many just treat the UK as a dumping ground and it's bad for Poland. It really makes Poland look bad. Average salaries have gone up here so why the continued exodus?

EU discrimination lawyers need to step in and clear up the mess.
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,860
14 Mar 2010  #8
It really makes Poland look bad. Average salaries have gone up here so why the continued exodus?

Has inflation risen too? Whats the unemployment rate?

EU discrimination lawyers need to step in and clear up the mess.

Seanus, once you stop believing that the EU views its 27 members as sovereign states, things like this start to make sense.

The end game is 500 million consumers who view themselves as europeans and only europeans.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
14 Mar 2010  #9
Inflation has risen, yes. Go to the GUS website, RN. I may have to translate stuff for you as I don't think they have it in English (another failing, there should be at least 2 language versions of official stats).

The unemployment rate is about 11.5%. It has been increasing by 0.1% every month for some time.

Geez, RN, I'm well aware of that. There are a couple of online speeches about the dilution of national sovereignty. Well worth watching! They can play their little games if it keeps them amused.
grubas 12 | 1,392
14 Mar 2010  #10
That would be blatant discrimination

Bull crap my friend.There are employers in US who require you to speak spanish for certain positions and nobody is ******** about discrimination.So what's up with that?If they were smart they would learn polish and become menagers.
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,860
14 Mar 2010  #11
If they were smart they would learn polish and become menagers.

If Ireland and the UK were really smart and gave two phucs about their citizens, they would implement a work permit scheme for all eastern europeans.

Geez, RN, I'm well aware of that. There are a couple of online speeches about the dilution of national sovereignty. Well worth watching! They can play their little games if it keeps them amused.

A suggestion if I may.

Join the lcoal Polish/British for europe society. I have recently become a member of the Ireland for europe society. I have only attended two meetings so far but once I get a foothold, I will be encouraging them to come out with the most ludicrous motions and press releases.

:)
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
14 Mar 2010  #12
I understand they were turned away not for not being polish but for not speaking polish.right or wrong?

Why on gods earth would an ENGLISH person who lives in ENGLAND who would like a job in a meat packing factory want to learn Polish? We speak ENGLISH in ENGLAND, no? The factory is based in ENGLAND.

They are comparatively unproductive and, to put it bluntly, just lazy

Yeah, such lazy cvnts, how on earth did we manage to colonise half the world? Oh I know, we got the Poles to do it...so secretly, our success was actually down to Polish people because the English are such lazy mo fo's :D Give me a break!

I have noticed a sharp increase in job offers here "as gaelige". A most welcome development.

Good, Gaelige is your language, same as English is mine..Shame we don’t have notices for that in England..

It's a sign of weakness and national decadence..

Yawn...English is an international language, its also becoming a necessity for a person who wants to gain British citizenship or for someone to study here in the UK...

That would be blatant discrimination. Then again, that would be The Daily Mail.

It is the DM, but that doesnt make it a lie,
king polkagamon
14 Mar 2010  #13
The day when we will need to speak Albanian will never come(hopefully).But polish?Why not?
grubas 12 | 1,392
14 Mar 2010  #14
If Ireland and the UK were really smart and gave two phucs about their citizens, they would implement a work permit scheme for all eastern europeans.

Talk to your goverment.
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,860
14 Mar 2010  #15
The scum in Brussels got in their first.
grubas 12 | 1,392
14 Mar 2010  #16
Why on gods earth would an ENGLISH person who lives in ENGLAND who would like a job in a meat packing factory want to learn Polish

To get a job.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
14 Mar 2010  #17
How can you make a mistake like that in advertising? Also, I'd understand it if they had to liaise with their Polish counterparts (of which ASDA hasn't) but that wasn't the case. It was an attempt to get cheap labour and that's exclusionist and wrong.
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,860
14 Mar 2010  #18
To get a job.

Polish is spoken by circa 40 million people around the globe. English is spoken by billions.
king polkagamon
14 Mar 2010  #19
Can you imagine:Only Blacks permitted to apply.\"Probably company heading to bankruptcy.
grubas 12 | 1,392
14 Mar 2010  #20
The scum in Brussels got in their first.

Well,talk to scum in Brussels.But seriously,big companies don't care about borders or nationalities.They make money,the more the better.NOTHING wrong with that.So you either learn polish and have this factory in UK or they will move it to PL.Plain and simple.You dont like it ,start your own bussines and hire Brits.If I am a stockholder I don't give a f**k if they hire Brits Poles or Chinese.I want them to make me ma money!Greed is good!
Torq 26 | 2,361
14 Mar 2010  #21
Polish is spoken by circa 40 million people around the globe.

50 million

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_language

English is spoken by billions.

As first language: 309-400 million, as second language: 199-1,400 million.
Overall: 500 million-1.8 billion

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
14 Mar 2010  #22
Talk to your goverment.

Dont worry, when the next lot get in there will be some changes...Labour have ruined this country and the next lot know how we all feel about immigration, their first job's pretty much been spelt out to them.

To get a job.

Are you stupid or are you intentionally being a fuckwit? The company is based in England, where funnily enough we speak English, its our national language, Polish isnt so why would a person going for a job at a British company need to speak a language thats only spoken by a tiny minority in England or in fact in the world...

How can you make a mistake like that in advertising? Also, I'd understand it if they had to liaise with their Polish counterparts (of which ASDA hasn't) but that wasn't the case. It was an attempt to get cheap labour and that's exclusionist and wrong.

The advert were sent out by a Polish agency who have set up shop here in the UK, or thats what it sounds like to me, I hope they're taken to court and better still kicked out of the UK.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
14 Mar 2010  #23
Grubas, it's discrimination when you exclude groups unless there is a specific need for Polish language to be used. They denied that was the case. Have you even read the article? They were even gonna invite Lithuanians.
banderias - | 16
14 Mar 2010  #24
polish people can speak russian

polish people can speak polish.

polish people can speak english

........

english can speak just english.

.......

so, every employer has right to choice talented employees

doesn't s/he?
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,860
14 Mar 2010  #25
so, every employer has right to choice talented employees

doesn't s/he?

Dunno about that, some even hire turks.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
14 Mar 2010  #26
Banderias, cut the crap!!

Some older Poles speak Russian. Of those, many through being forced and not through choice.

Some Poles speak English very well but they use it to further their own agendas.

Brits learn Spanish, French and German in schools. I still remember French and could use it if needed.

Talented depends on many other things.
enkidu 7 | 623
14 Mar 2010  #27
Why on gods earth would an ENGLISH person who lives in ENGLAND who would like a job in a meat packing factory want to learn Polish? We speak ENGLISH in ENGLAND, no? The factory is based in ENGLAND.

The answer is simple, dear Watson: Such an English person shall want to learn Polish in order to get a job.
This is silly, but one can't argue with the reality.

Funny thing - I know a lot of places where only Poles works (in London). UE policy has got nothing to do with that situation. It is not even Polish worker's fault. Its an respectable middle-class English business owners, who decided to turn down any job application from his fellow countrymen. Its - the business owners fault.

Frankly - no one seems to blame them.
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,860
14 Mar 2010  #28
50 million
As first language: 309-400 million, as second language: 199-1,400 million.
Overall: 500 million-1.8 billion

I was out by ten million, big deal.

In the general scheme of things, Polish is a rather useless language for native english speakers unless they plan to relocate to Poland.
skysoulmate 14 | 1,296
14 Mar 2010  #29
Bull crap my friend.There are employers in US who require you to speak spanish for certain positions and nobody is ******** about discrimination.

Well, some positions require Spanish ON TOP of English, not Spanish only. Usually government agencies where they dispense food stamps, etc. By the way, many people are ******** about that and rightfully so. Not only are we supporting 10% of a country's population (yes folks, >10% of Mexico's population live in the US illegally!) now because of it many jobs require we speak their language. Just doesn't feel right.

Jobs in the UK should require English. Possibly a plus for speaking an extra language if it's beneficial for the business - Polish in this case.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
14 Mar 2010  #30
english can speak just english.

What all them? My niece speaks English, French and Spanish - all fluently..so you sir are talking sh*te...Quite a few speak German too, we have the odd few that speak Latin

The answer is simple, dear Watson: Such an English person shall want to learn Polish in order to get a job.
This is silly, but one can't argue with the reality.

The reality is that they are breaking the law...and such and English person shouldn't have to speak a useless language to get a job in England...maybe if they were applying for a job in Poland in a meat factory it would be useful, but not in England...they want Poles because they are cheap and are a bit naive to the laws in this country, after this though, you might find that his second factory is burnt to the ground :D

Frankly - no one seems to blame them.

Really? I think you might find that the feelings of many Brits are becoming more and more hostile towards immigrants from certain countries, so yes lots of people blame them....You are looking at it from a different perspective, so I understand you are quite ignorant about how my countrymen feel.

so, every employer has right to choice talented employees

At packing meat?


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