Poland - never again

Do you understand what "for the last time" means as included in my post 148?

Also, do you understand what FO means or do I have to use the full phrase?

Just a quick test comparing Google translate and DeepL for I was running just 10 kilometers this morning, but usually I run 15 kilometers.
GT: Biegałem zaledwie 10 kilometrów dziennie, ale zwykle biegnę 15 kilometrów.
DL: Biegłem dziś rano zaledwie 10 kilometrów, ale zazwyczaj biegałem 15 kilometrów.

analysis (please keep in mind that I am just in my 2nd year of Polish studies):
- dziennie: obviously wrong since this is an adjective meaning "of the day"; dziś rano sounds right to me.
- biegnę: like with other Polish verbs for motion, there is a specific form for expressing a motion that happens repeatedly (iterative form), in this case biegać, hence the correct form would be biegam. Both translators got it wrong. btw., biegnę I would use when running right now and why DL uses the past tense I have no idea.

others where I am not sure:
- zaledwie: sounds strange, I would have used tylko; zaledwie I would use for expressing that I barely made the 10k.
- biegałem: I would have used pobiegłem, indicating a finished run for a specific distance without extended effort (otherwise I would have used podbiegłem), but ok, this is really finetuning amongst runners.

and finally, although it got the sex right, this was only by chance because I am male. None of the translaters would have known if I were a female and would have to use biegłam instead of biegłem.

as I said, I am just a student and could be totally wrong but from my experience over the last >1 year, GT is absolutely useless and DL is a bit better for some type of texts like legalese, but still useless if you want to learn because you cannot trust any translation.

btw., English->German is much better, probably because this pair is more similar in grammar, e.g. no aspect.

@Rich Mazur
Answer the questions to prove you were born and grew up here. They're easy to someone Polish.
Sure it's easier to tell me to fo because you CAN'T answer them :)

Polish Jews can speak and understand Polish even though they left Poland in the 1940s.
And you? Don't you even understand Polish now? Isn't Google translate helpful?

This is what I would say after having got the idea from the English original version and then forgetting the original version and also without looking at you analysis of that translation (just as if I met someone and tried to tell them about my experience):

Przebiegłem dziś rano 10 kilometrów, choć zwykle biegnę 15.

I think a lot of people would prefer to use 'normalnie' in place of 'zwykle'. 'Zazwyczaj' would not be the adverb that people would typically use in speaking.

In defence of RM, I must tell you that I once met a Polish soldier in a UK hospital who after spending about 40 years in Britain could not talk to me in Polish, but was able to comprehend all that I was talking to him (or so he said). The ability to talk in the language depends on if that person could speak that language throughout that time. That veteran of mine had an English wife and lived totally immersed in the English language since the end of the WW2 without any contact with the Polish language (his English was also not that perfect), so it was natural for him to loose the ability to speak it.

I totally overuse that (second language syndrome I mix up registers all over the place being too formal or informal, often in the same sentence).

I have to respect the effort he's putting into this, but does he really expect us to believe that he cut all contacts with his family back home, even when his father (by his own claim) helped him leave in the first place?

Rich I have some Polish friends that own a restaurant that I frequent a lot here in America.
I was telling my Polish Buddy your story about the hospital incident.
He said that you are telling the truth because the same thing happened to him when he went back to Poland to visit.
He said that he had the same situation with a fractured jaw 2 years back and was asked for money in the hospital even though he had the best private insurance from a company known as medicover.

We didn't have time to get in detail as he was working but I am sure I will be peppered with questions to defend myself so bring them on.

I will write them down and take them to him so he can answer your questions in detail.

See, Johnny, if you're going to make up stories, it's worth knowing a thing or two about how private medical insurance works in Poland. In your case, simply googling "private medical insurance poland" won't tell you how Medicover actually works, which is why we know your story is such obvious nonsense :)

Still, you seem curiously desperate to defend this character when people living in Poland have already repeatedly exposed him as a poor liar. I wonder why?

Thanks. That is exactly like me.


If I post my birth certificate issued last September in Warsaw, will you STFU?

A simple yes or no will do.

It is very unusual- There are polish clubs, communities in every bigger town in UK. I guess he cut himself off completely from polish roots. There is some true that your first language can get rusty if you don't use it.

Please do.

"Please do" is not an answer to "will you STFU?"

The proper answer is either yes or no.

He is not proper, you should know that by now.
Hey Rich, do you know how to check your mail here ?
Go to the to of the page and click on "Mail".

My patience is infinity.

While they are asleep, here is one and the only reason why I will never go to a country like Poland where they don't operate under the American rule of never, ever refusing treatment in the emergency rooms to anyone without asking a single question. A point that is totally non-negotiable to me. If I want to go to a jungle, I will go to a jungle.

Here is why. Back in 2002, I went for a bike ride through a park in Palatine. Like a complete moron, I wasn't paying attention and hit a tree with my face. It was one f***** mess that later needed 50 stitches to make me look like a human again. Somebody called 911 and the ambulance guys were picking me up in about 10 minutes. In the ER, nobody asked who I was or how I was going to pay. After the MRI scan they installed the above mentioned stitches, asked me if I have insurance, I said yes, gave them the name, and I was on my way home. That's it.

Now, imagine the above in a hospital that wants cash up front, and I mean cash, not a credit card. That MRI alone was probably a grand or two. In Warsaw, I would have to have that kind of money on me while on a bike and in shorts. Even if I did, that money would have been stolen within minutes as I was waiting for the ambulance.

Never again. Again.

@10iwonka10 and Ziemowit
He managed to argue at hospital so he can't have forgotten Polish.
So yes, he's a pathetic troll who can't cope with the questions.
And no, no one asks for insurance in case of emergency in Polish hospitals. In health centres when you want to see a GP etc, yes. Why would I pay for treating someone suffering from indigestion after breakfast at McDonald's?

I suggest eating proper home made breakfast - the Polish way.
In conclusion, Rich is an American troll. And he has some buddies here.
So Johnny, tell us more about that friend of yours.
BTW, Americans really need to learn to buy proper medical insurance when going abroad.

I had it. It was "proper". But the moron at the Solec hospital didn't even want to look at it. Cash on the table or get lost.

Ok, why haven't you answered the questions yet.
So what insurance did you exactly have?
What condition were you suffering from?

Gee kaprys, sounds like you got up on the wrong side of bed this morning to start out so angry.


Maybe and maybe not.
Please back up your insult to him with some proof.


SO it is alright for you to sling insults at Americans but god forbid if the shoe is on the other foot.
In both cases in this thread the Americans stated that they had the best health insurance that was available so do tell how that is improper.

I also explained when I travel out of country I get health insurance coverage on top of what I already have just to make sure I will be covered in a foreign country.

It costs me $250U.S. for a $100,000 coverage for 30 days.
Next.......

You told me it's ok to insult other countries because it's freedom of speech.
How have I insulted the US, btw? Breakfasts at McDonald's? 'Rich' wrote about them.
My proof is the frajer doesn't speak Polish.
Enough.
Here's your buddy-better at insulting Poland than Harry.
So what insurance did Rysiu have? Let's check the terms.
Is he desperately googling for one that'd cover medical service in Poland while you're arguing with me now?
btw, I bet he knows how to check the mail -he hasn't even got a problem with quoting people. A new user, right :)

OMG, we all know that a a hospital would treat any emergency without asking for money. How do you think all those homeless drunks get help? But of course you can still stick to your wet dream of cash payment.

You are having a real hair day aren't you.


With this quote.


If I were to say that, "Polish people really need to learn to"..............you would really have a melt down this morning.


I thought we were debating so I will go for now until after you have had your morning coffee and a "proper home made breakfast - the Polish way."

Hopefully your day will start getting better.

Case closed, I think. The strange stories simply don't add up, and he seems remarkably comfortable with this forum for a new user.


Given that both stories were clearly invented (how strange - if you google "Private health insurance Poland", Medicover is the first link...), then both you and 'Rich' have both shown that you don't know how health care works in Poland. As anyone that actually knows Poland can tell you, not only is basic care at first contact doctor free for everyone regardless of insurance, hospitals will treat people first in an emergency situation before worrying about payment.

But 'Rich', please post your birth certificate.

Why not a blood or even a stool sample while you're at itLOL

That is exactly what I bought. Both amounts were precisely as you stated. And an international 24/7/365 toll free number. They wouldn't even look at my proof of insurance much less call that number.

I mean - OK. Poland never again. I couldn't care less. Now - how about PF? Why linger here like a heavy fart in a crowed place? What for?

Unless you enjoy trolling.

I just got the second of the two, but I am too scared to cut myself to get the blood.

Where should I deliver it for the "he is not Polish" chorus to STFU?

Speaking of STFU, I am still waiting for an answer to my question: if I post my BC, will you all STFU about me not being Polish?

The only acceptable answer is "yes" for it to happen.

Lmao.
No answer to the questions in Polish.
No information about the insurance he allegedly have.
Pathetic trolls -case closed. I'm sorry for you.

Yup, agreed. Absolutely pathetic.

Look at his other posts - a clear agenda to portray Russia as innocent and not having done anything to Poland, while downplaying the significance of Katyń.