Why does everyone seem to hate LOT Polish Airlines?

IM A FLIGHT ATTENDANT FOR A MAJOR CARRIER AND HAVING FLOWN MANY AIRLINES ,I CAN HONESTLY SAY LOT LEAVES aLOT OT BE DESIRED , VERY POOR SERVICE , ARROGANT CREW , STALE PERSONALITIES YET PROFESSIONAL, OUTDATED INTERIOR CABIN , WE KNOW THE PLANE IS OLD BUT IT DOESNT HAVE TO LOOK IT , THEY SHOULD HAVE REFURBISHED THEM YEARS AGO , ANCIENT INFLIGHT ENTERTAINMENT AND EQUIPMENT AND THE MEALS ARE DISGUSTING , NO CONCEPT OF TIME WHATSOEVER , FLIGHTS ARE LATE AND BECAUSE THEY HAVE VERY FEW OF THE WIDEBODIES THEY DONT FIX THE LIL STUFF BECAUSE IT WOULD MEAN DISRUPTING THE OPERATION , NUMEROUS TIMES MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY HAVE FLOWN ON THEM AND HAD BAD EXPERIENCES . MECHANICALS ARE FREQUENT BECAUSE THEY FLY THE **** OUT OF THOSE 6 767'S , LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 787 AND IF THEY DO UPDATE THE LIVERY I HOPE IT WILL BE NICE , IM POLISH AND WAS ALWAYS PROUD OF LOT AND ITS SERVICE BUT IN THE PAST 10 YEARS THEY HAVE DETERIORATED AND IT PAINS ME TO SAY SO .

Know nothing about LOT but why are you yelling dear? The engines are idle... ;)

Maybe in a couple of years from now. Personally I would not fly on a 787 until its been in service for several years. Too many risking engineering design decisions for my liking.

All the complaints about LOT are due to the long delivery delays on the 787, they should have been in service three years ago.

I've been traveling with LOT 2 times, and it was pretty good service.

I must admit from the airlines I've flow in SAS (Scandinavian Airlines) had the most pleasant flight and best service .


Would you prefer to keep flying on those old 767s ?

I've used LOT plenty of times - never any problems, decent food, nice service.

Though Saudia is my favourite, partly because what they save by not serving alcohol goes on the food budget!

you must have got lucky that day ;-)

Bingo, I thought I was the only one who noticed their appearance.

It's not that, they just hire old sea hags, they should hire young sexy girls many men even females pick a airline carrier to fly on just because of the sexy flight attendants.

You do realise that they're there for safety, not to look at?

LOT is a State owned European company - they can hardly have the practices of Singapore Airlines, for example.

good point indeed.

You trying to say a pretty girl can't do the same job? she can be there for both safety and pleasing the eye. That's why most airlines look for young attractive girls, nothing wrong with that. If it's a national carrier like LOT it represents the country and what it has to offer.

" Virgin Atlantic has the most attractive flight attendants, says an industry survey.

The British carrier received 53% of the vote from 1,000 people surveyed by the Business Travel and Meetings Show, according to The Australian.

Singapore Airlines' cabin crew followed, receiving 18% of votes.

Others in the top 10, in ranking order: Etihad, Emirates, Aer Lingus, Lufthansa, Cathay Pacific, TAP, KLM and Iberia.

Posted Feb 10 2011 1:57PM"
travel.usatoday.com/flights/post/2011/02/survey-virgin-atlantic-has-the-hottest-flight-attendants/142524/1

It's a good thing you're not responsible for hiring LOT cabin crew - the company would end up having to pay out soooo much to the plaintiffs' lawyers.

Really i don't see airlines who share my view


paying any lawyers.

It's not illegal to hire based on attractiveness.

My two cents on LOT... Service is alright, only had mechanical issues twice, and in both cases a second plane was available within an hour. No complaints really.

If AerLingus, Lufthansa, KLM or Iberia had a policy of hiring


they'd be bled dry by a combination of fines for criminal offenses and compensation from civil cases. And rightly so.


It is however illegal in Europe to hire based on age or gender unless there are compelling reasons for a post to be exempt from anti-discrimination laws. And almost since "attractiveness" has no bearing whatsoever on ability to do the job, there would be clear grounds for a civil lawsuit if they only hired "pretty" ones.

And rightly so. If Penn Boy wants to lech at the stweardesses, let him go to Spearmint Rhino instead.

Unless it's written into the job description. Same goes for hiring models.

Nonsense. Cabin crew aren't models or Playboy Bunnies whose role is connected to their looks.

Well of course it can't be the official policy that would be discrimination but alot of airlines do it anyway. If the airline does the training (as it usually is) it decides who is passes and who doesn't. Can a lawyer prove the flight attendant wasn't hired because of her looks when officially (even if it wasn't the case) she failed. There's ways to go around it.

Training Language Height and weight Uniforms and presentation These requirements and intertwined with appearance and attractiveness. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_attendant#Height_and_weight

Not in your mind, but you're not writing job descriptions. They are contact points for customers, and as such, hiring criteria can be based on attractiveness. There is nothing in European or Polish law that says otherwise.

Damn right it would.


You've a lot to learn about lawyers.


So how are training and language "intertwined" (LOL) with "appearance and attractivenes"?
Even "height and weight" don't preclude being as ugly as sin.

Didn't mean all of them are shouldn't have posted that, oops. Of course height and weight is, tall and thin looks good everyone knows that it adds to the girls face. I don't think any of these women are below 170cm and fat.

youtube.com/watch?v=wFRGKBrmgjY

Right, "everyone knows"!!. Very scientific!!! On the wikipedia page that you managed to find, (I happened to read it yesterday, coincidentally), you'll notice it has a height range (and how that's related to the physical conditions of the aircraft) and a little something about BMI. Nothing to do with "attractiveness".

HAHAHA right, well how convenient that the height, weight and general appearance "safety" requirements fit comfortably into what is the commonly accepted idea of beauty. That's why they're having these "ugly" girls pose and represent their airlines.

youtube.com/watch?v=ytVj93gneek

And he really does keep coming back for more!


Are you really saying that fulfilling those requirements somehow ensures beauty or precludes ugliness?


Now you're contradicting yourself as usual, as a few minutes ago you yourself squeaked:

Well if a girl has a pretty face but is a short and fat it makes her look uglier doesn't it, being tall and thin brings out her full potential highlighting her attributes, including face.


Well if you actually read what i wrote you see that I was talking about LOT flight attendants




Like i said READ

We aren't talking about short and fat. Those guys/women can't become cabin crews. We're talking about facially attractive. But you seem to have got a bit confused about that.


I should hope so, since this thread's about LOT.
Poland joined the EU a few years after you fled - and in the EU, there has to be a very good reason to deny someone a job on the basis of arbitrary factors. Which brings us full circle, doesn't it...

You're the one who's confused. I don't know in what other way to explain it to you. A fat face doesn't look as good as it would if it was thin, and if you see a girl with a pretty face and notice she's a "MIDGET" you wont think she's a hot as if she was tall, you feel disappointed. Being thin and tall makes the girl's face look better, get it?


Don't change the subject you didn't read, you were wrong.

Who's talking about fat faces or "midgets". Show me a "midget", whatever that is, working as cabin crew.


That is the subject, and you are as always both wrong and displaying the stupidity we have come to expect. The point is that you said that only "beautiful women" should become cabin crew. LMAO

Dude that's what i was talking about and you contradicting, I said they should hire pretty sexy girls you said no it's discrimination and airlines dont do that they hire everybody, now you're saying show me a ugly cabin crew member.


Jesus you gotta be the dumbest **** on this forum, READ what is being discussed on that post don't let your mind wonder off, if you can. If you go back carefully you'll notice it was my response to that wrong statement you've made. I said that I was talking about Polish (LOT) flight attendants NOT all in general.

to all, please keep it civil