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thebear45 1 | 67
14 Dec 2009 #61
ALBOOOSSSS

do i kno you, brutalgay?

southern, i would kno man... i had girlfriend from bulgarie for 8 month :) she was good in the sack if you kno what i mean...actualy, that is why i dump her ass. she seem too good, too experience.

and, she had a bit slavic mix, but that only because her grandma was from moldovia.
BrutalButcher - | 391
14 Dec 2009 #62
thebear45

I had an Albanian girlfriend .Damn, she was dumb...but I was also dumb, because...who the hell wants a Shiptari? NO ONE LOL
terziev - | 49
15 Dec 2009 #63
poles, u must remember that this bulgarian are not slav

hmm, quite a surprise for me. still i wont deny that more rural regions here resemble western turkey quite a bit (except for alchohol consumption). and northwestern bulgaria is... well resembles romania.

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???? and about this 'popular' music video and the serb tv channel ?????. dude, it is a bad joke. at least i hope, otherwise you have one quite 'special' bulgarian girlfriend. which reminds me i envy about gogol bordello in warsaw last week.
krakowiak
15 Dec 2009 #64
'special' bulgarian girlfriend

I don't know any bulgarian ****** here in Germany. But when I tell some buddy I haven't met for a while, that I have now a bulgarian girlfriend, they are often like "where did you met her, in a bordel?" ;)

Well I'm a student so is she. We were in Pleven at her parents this summer and people there seem to hate Turks and Roma and kind of be fond of Serbs and Russians. They also seem to prefer Germans to Poles. Damn Bulgarians. I with my slavic features, blond hair, superior body was allways taken for a Russian tourist since they do not have many tourist just some ruskies who visit the Panorama.

The Museum in Pleven is great I must say! I newer saw such a great collection in a museum with obviously such a low budget.

We made some trips, places worth noting were Kaljaka(the nature preservete near/in Pleven), Trojan Mansonary, Kazanlak, Batak. First time I were in Bulgaria mainland and later we were off to the black sea naturally, where we didnt meet with folks but just enjoyed the sea - though the sand is like 50% cigarette butts =( even worse than like 10 years ago when I was there with my parents last time.

I can't say I was dissapointed - beautifull land, great history and nice people ... nice but cocky and bossy.
Boatswain
16 Dec 2009 #65
Yep, the panslavism in Poland is hard to find.
Some ten years ago I've been working onboard internationally crewed ship. In rating's messroom we've been divided and sat at four separated tables: Serbs, Bulgarians, Filipinos and us, Poles.

The steward serving a breakfast, Neso (Serb), went to the messroom and greeted us: "Good morning! Good morning, Polish Brothers!" and then the oldest of us, Ryszard the bosun, gentle, well trimmed, 60 years old man went mad. I've never seen him before like that. "F*ck off, Neso!" he roared "Kurwa, if you look for brothers, go there!" and pointed at Bulgarian table.
krakowiak
16 Dec 2009 #66
Ryszard the bosun

beeing cocky and bossy seems to be a Polish feature after all ;)

You'll have it hard finding panslavistic characters in the regions bordering Germany, they make nowadays a nice living selling wiring harnesses to volkswagen, its only pragmatic to cope with the new economic friends - but like in Kraków-region you'll find much more, if not sympathy, empathy for Ukrainians than for Germans. There was a public opinion poll some years ago about this matter, but I'm too lazy searching for the link ...
Boatswain
16 Dec 2009 #67
much more, if not sympathy, empathy for Ukrainians than for Germans

Oh, obviously. It appears there is natural sympathy to some slavic nations - Slovaks, even Serbs or Ukrainians, but I guess no more than that - idea of panslavism is just strange for Poles. Germans are another case, you know; don't exaggerate about 'economic friendship'. I'd like much more idea of dinner with Ukrainians than Germans (or French f.e.) - you still have a chance not to fall asleep of boredom then.
TheOther 5 | 3,878
16 Dec 2009 #68
but like in Kraków-region you'll find much more, if not sympathy, empathy for Ukrainians than for Germans

Germans are another case

One day even the last Polish redneck will notice that WW2 is over and times are different now...
terziev - | 49
16 Dec 2009 #69
We were in Pleven at her parents

hmm, i wont start explaining you 'how the stuff work' in bulgaria, just advice you to ask somebody (bulgarian) to tell you what pleven is famous for. still, no offence really, but you sound like this 'typical' polish holidaymaker in bulgaria - absolute uninterested in understanding my country. wish you luck with you relationship.

The steward serving a breakfast, Neso (Serb), went to the messroom and greeted us: "Good morning! Good morning, Polish Brothers!" and then the oldest of us, Ryszard the bosun, gentle, well trimmed, 60 years old man went mad. I've never seen him before like that. "F*ck off, Neso!" he roared "Kurwa, if you look for brothers, go there!" and pointed at Bulgarian table.

quite typical also.

One day even the last Polish redneck will notice that WW2 is over and times are different now...

towards germany, yep. most young polish i know arent that much into this hatred towards germans, but they absolutely and insanely hate everything russian and this one wont go away. the irony is that polish and russians are so much look alike.
Boatswain
16 Dec 2009 #70
One day even the last Polish redneck will notice that WW2 is over and times are different now.

Well, a plethora of Polish rednecks were disarmed in 1965 by so called 'Polish Bishops Letter' addressed to German Bishops, in which the message "we forgive and we ask for forgiving" was put. Four years ago a huge crowd of Polish rednecks were shouting toward German Man "Wir liebe Dich" - in german. I don't think such a thing ever happenned before - through a thousand years of our relations. So much about Polish rednecks.
TheOther 5 | 3,878
16 Dec 2009 #71
So much about Polish rednecks.

I didn't say that nothing has changed in Poland since 1945. Just explain to me why you come across so many anti-German and anti-Russian posts here, and then we talk about (Plastic) Polish rednecks again.
Boatswain
16 Dec 2009 #72
Most probably no one - excludnig me - of Polish rednecks is posting here.
TheOther 5 | 3,878
16 Dec 2009 #73
Most probably no one ... of Polish rednecks is posting here.

Even worse: then those prejudices are spread mainly amongst the (Plastic) Polish intelligentsia?

- excludnig me

:)
Boatswain
16 Dec 2009 #74
You got it. However I think Plastic Polish Inteligentsia is too stupid to have prejudices.
TheOther 5 | 3,878
16 Dec 2009 #75
However I think Plastic Polish Inteligentsia is too stupid to have prejudices.

They call it 'opinion' instead. :)
Boatswain
16 Dec 2009 #76
You got it! That's right. Are You Polish, wise guy?
krakowiak
16 Dec 2009 #77
I'd like much more idea of dinner with Ukrainians than Germans (or French f.e.) - you still have a chance not to fall asleep of boredom then.

Yeah thats how it is mostly with these northern Germans around here, they joke around but its allways just silly. They are like big children. A matter of fact my best friend here in Hannover(nothern Germany) is a student from Bavaria, and they do not think of them beeing Germans that much.

what pleven is famous for

I wrote that I visited the Panorama and visited Batak as I wrote, but you don't know it I suppose. But I also visited Burgas were Adam Mickiewicz resided with Turkish permission while Poland was torn appart.

Read my comment before you write! You are an example what Bulgarians are famous for, beeing the upmost worst smart-arses around! And while the Turks in Germany are the **** even compared to Bulgarians, I know some turkish students I value more than you fellows!!!

But the worst thing with Bulgaria is their arselicker sympathy with Germans. Even Croatians have some pride, but Bulgarians would get into a German ass without butter!
rock - | 460
17 Dec 2009 #78
Anyway there is lack of infrustructure which causes some problems and the terrible roads of the other balkan countries which makes transportations difficult.Imagine one moment what would be Germany's fate with Turks and albos as neighbours and you get an idea.

What are you talking about ?
Our highways are in European standarts and their length cover all of your country.

skyscraperlife.com/turkish-infrastructure-technology/957-turkish-highways.html
terziev - | 49
5 Jan 2010 #79
just got back from poland, spent 18 days there. i felt both the country, people and food - bland. nothing that bad, but nothing to remember either and it gets really frustrating. one big plus is that young population in warsawa is much better educated than us. one big surprise is that i find germans for example much more cheerful, open minded and generous than polish.
rtz - | 46
7 Jan 2010 #80
Terziev - your opinion is yours! I am Bulgarian too and DON'T share your viewpoint.

All my friends seem to like Polish people.

I have many Polish friends and they never disapointed me!

Don't give the world the wrong impression on who we are - we are MIX of many cultures and can NOT be generalised.

You don't like Poland - don't go there!

Bulgarian nature is that WE ARE NOT equal and united! That's why we're spread all over the world. Some of us succeed in integrating in another country and just fit wery well, some other DON'T and WINE all the time - accusing other people of that and giving the WRONG general impression we're cocky self-stubborn jerks.

If we were all the same - we would have come to a solution of our own problems!
Luckily or not we are different from each other!
Lyzko
12 Aug 2011 #81
Compared with either the Poles, the Hungarians or the Romanians, only the Bulgarians, the Albanians as well, hid Jews and gave them fake passports, allowing them both safe haven as well as escape routes, rather than turning them in, rounding them up or brutalizing them for the Nazis!

Bulgarians can be proud of this part of their history, at any rate.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
12 Aug 2011 #82
Any proof of that, Lyzko? Besides, many Poles did help the Jews by hiding them. Just try to imagine how it was. Poles have always been a family-oriented culture so how long was their Jewish guest gonna stay? Are you out helping Iraqis being unfairly slaughtered in huge numbers?
Lyzko
12 Aug 2011 #83
Proof there is in reams.. don't you worry-:)

As to the rest of what you said, I'm confining my comments only to the pre-WWII history of the Jews in Central and Eastern Europe. The facts are that the Bulgarian anti-Nazi government provided 'Persilscheine' (e.g. faked letters of transit) as well as offering refugee Jews passage through Bulgaria. While no other European countries were as resistant in this respect than the Danes or the Swedes, for Eastern Europeans, the Bulgarians did not jump on the bandwagon of turning in and persecuting Jews as did many others. In contrast with the Hungarians, i.e. the Arrow Crossers, the Bulgarians were exemplary!

Obviously, Polish resistance is well documented and I've credited the Poles on numerous posts, so please, don't be preciousLOL
plgrl
12 Aug 2011 #84
for Eastern Europeans

How geverments of occupied countries could introduce such organized action?
Lyzko
12 Aug 2011 #85
Indeed they could, and they did-:)))!!
Seanus 15 | 19,706
13 Aug 2011 #86
Sorry, your post suggested sth different but thanks for qualifying what you said.
southern 75 | 7,096
13 Aug 2011 #87
I often wonder who has fatter necks Poles or Bulgarians.
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
13 Aug 2011 #88
e says that Poland isn't very democratic, that Eastern Europeans are all the same and that Poland will never be an economic power in Europe.

He assumes that because Bulgaria is a shithole Poland must be as well, you can't argue with people who are willingly ignorant. I would drop the topic all together-he doesn't have to share your passion and interest for Poland.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
13 Aug 2011 #89
I don't imagine many here are well qualified to speak on Bulgarian issues. I won't enter into a discussion abound with misconceptions and 'quarter-truths' if I could coin that phrase.
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
13 Aug 2011 #90
Good advice, but I am guided by stats and not misconceptions.


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