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Kashub1410 6 | 689
2 May 2023 #181
@Lyzko

Where excactly has this fairytale Poland existed and more specifically when.

I am not interested in artificial history or fantasies when discussing history
Lyzko 45 | 9,471
2 May 2023 #182
If you know Poland, I presume your native country (or that of your family's origin),
you'd have no need to play the Devil's Advocate, but rather accept what we all know
about Poland...from other Polish natives!

We all know what I posted is the truth, albeit not always pleasant, and so kindly deal
with it as one deals with unflattering criticism.

It's not easy to accept captious comments about the US from foreigners, yet acknowledge
them I must or I'll never grow.

If criticism is warranted, then it should be heard, so why so defensive, Kaszub?
OP mafketis 37 | 11,010
2 May 2023 #183
what we all know about Poland...from other Polish natives!

Some years ago (over 10) a Polish acquaintance spent an academic research year in the US (somewhere in the midwest near Chicago but not in it).

Anyhoo, he noticed that the local Polonia fell into different groups depending on when they left Poland and each group automatically assumed nothing had changed since they left.

So those that left in the late 70's or 80's still thought in terms of ration cards and toilet paper shortages (which haven't been a thing since 1988). Even occasional trips back didn't shake their fundamental idea of what was going on....

The inflo (too small to be called an 'influx' yet) only began in the last 5 years or so so unless the other Polish natives found themselves in your classes since then they likely don't have much clue about what's going on now in the country....

Did you look at any of the video links I provided?

Poland is no longer mono-ethnic. Even without non-Europeans the influx (the word fits here) of Ukrainians enough non-Europeans are arriving that that version of Poland is history.

Get with the times!
Miloslaw 19 | 5,065
2 May 2023 #184
@Lyzko

Where excactly has this fairytale Poland existed and more specifically when

He can't answer that because, frankly, he doesn't have a clue!
Lyzko seems to live in some kind of alternative realty.
Miloslaw 19 | 5,065
2 May 2023 #185
@mafketis

Pole Ams really have no idea about Poland!
It's quite shocking!

Poland is no longer mono-ethnic. Even without non-Europeans the influx (the word fits here) of Ukrainians enough non-Europeans are arriving that that version of Poland is history.

I can't say any more.
Lyzko 45 | 9,471
3 May 2023 #186
@Maf, Milo,

Not everyone is able to visit Europe every year or so! What with family expenses and work, I'm rarely able to drive up to Boston any longer, much less visit my former student and professional haunts in Germany, Poland, Denmark or Sweden, so cut me some slack.

I rely on the Polish press of varying political persuasions just like everybody else.

Moreover, there is nothing "fairytale" about any posts I've written on Poland, so quit lying merely to prove a point.
johnny reb 49 | 7,257
3 May 2023 #187
Pole Ams really have no idea about Poland!

Oh, so PoleBrits like you do ?
When was the last time you visited Poland without your parents picking up the tab ?
And you need to know more than babcia, piwo, pierogi and kapusta to claim to speak the Polish language like you do. lol
Kashub1410 6 | 689
3 May 2023 #188
@Lyzko
Then explain to me how, when and what do you mean by Poland being mono-ethnic historically. It makes zero sense, only an ignoramus of Polish history would claim that

If your thinking about
1945-1989 then it's not historically Poland in any shape or form, it was artificial, unnatural and your lack of understanding of Polish identity is showing too.
Lyzko 45 | 9,471
3 May 2023 #189
False once again!
I NEVER stated that Poland is "mono-ethnic". I did say that the presence of Ukrainians, Ruthenians, assorted Slavs along with other white Europeans living and or working in Poland is scarcely comparable with contemporary urban areas such as Berlin, Paris, Stockholm, Amsterdam or London with a truly multi-ethnic assortment of colors, non-Western languages and religions. Of course Poland has her share of Muslims, but they are far fewer in number than in many neighboring countries.

Please don't continue playing the Devil's Advocate on this matter because we all know it's just a game.
Kashub1410 6 | 689
3 May 2023 #190
that Poland remains one of the most ethnically homogeneous nations on the continent of Europe, (...) to impose on a historically monolithic populace.

Explain this to me then
Novichok 4 | 8,374
3 May 2023 #191
contemporary urban areas such as Berlin, Paris, Stockholm, Amsterdam or London with a truly multi-ethnic assortment of colors,

What a thrill...except for one tiny detail...the locals were never asked if they like it. That Western "democracy"...
When the locals finally have a chance to vote, Western bootlickers immediately and without proof call it a sham. See the referendum in Crimea.
johnny reb 49 | 7,257
3 May 2023 #192
Please don't continue playing the Devil's Advocate

He does have the reputation for that.
Excellent post anyways Lyzko.
OP mafketis 37 | 11,010
3 May 2023 #194
Poland being mono-ethnic historically

Yes the PRL was an anomaly in that regard (along with many, many others....)
espana 17 | 950
4 May 2023 #195
support for LGBT

big taboo in Poland . their mentality is from 1960
Lyzko 45 | 9,471
5 May 2023 #196
Naturally Poland, as practically everywhere else throughout Europe, has an LGBTQ community!
While perhaps neither as vocal nor even as visible within larger urban centers in comparison with Berlin, Madrid, Stockholm, Amsterdam or Copenhagen, for example, Polish gays do indeed have an uphill battle, fighting to maintain both their Polish-Catholic identity in the same breath however, their independent selfhood as non-conformist men and women.
Novichok 4 | 8,374
5 May 2023 #197
Naturally Poland, as practically everywhere else throughout Europe, has an LGBTQ community!

Would you like to see more or fewer of them in Poland?

non-conformist men and women.

non-reproducing = biologically useless.
Lyzko 45 | 9,471
5 May 2023 #198
The purpose of marriage is the sexual union between a man and a woman, not solely for reproductive purposes! We are not all the same as in ancient times and barreness is no longer a stigma, save among the ignorant or the privileged.
Novichok 4 | 8,374
5 May 2023 #199
The purpose of marriage is the sexual union between a man and a woman, not solely for reproductive purposes!

The sole purpose of marriage is for the rest of us to know who is responsible for the kids. That's why marriages are registered by governments or their proxies.

When two guys form a partnership to open a store, they don't apply for a marriage license because this union will never produce a baby.
Miloslaw 19 | 5,065
5 May 2023 #200
The sole purpose of marriage is for the rest of us to know who is responsible for the kids

Exactly!
Miloslaw 19 | 5,065
5 May 2023 #202
@johnny reb

I just wanted to say that you, and I, Novichock and Joker do share some of the same opinions.

That in no way says that I like or trust you.
I am just making a point.
Novichok 4 | 8,374
5 May 2023 #203
I just wanted to say that you, and I, Novichock and Joker do share some of the same opinions.

People of equal IQ have equal opinions and in our case equally brilliant.
It's the LGBT perverts that drive me nuts. These morons can't answer a single follow-up question.
Like: I a woman, says a woke moron with a dick. Define a woman. I can't. End of the conversation.

BTW, I learned to avoid their vocabulary so I don't ask if men should be allowed to compete with women in sports. They will say no and mean it.

The question to ask is if males should be allowed to compete with females. That takes it into biology and out of their nut house.
johnny reb 49 | 7,257
5 May 2023 #204
Doctor: Sir
Patient: It's Ma'am
Doctor: Ma'am, you have prostrate cancer.

you, and I, Novichock and Joker do share some of the same opinions.

You will never be one of us Americans as hard as you try to horn into our American team.
Better you stick with your own Limey kind.

Opinions are not confessions. Deeds are.

Then that disqualifies Milo with all his perpetual "I thinks". lol
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,854
6 May 2023 #205
Yes avoid their vocabulary at all.costs.

Here in the UK we are also infected with this nonsense.

A woman was told that she couldn't have been raped on a hospital ward, as she alleged, as "there were no men there "...

Of course when you are bleating that 'transwonen are women' constantly you might cone to believe this sick nonsense. 😫
Novichok 4 | 8,374
6 May 2023 #206
I want to know how often transgender women see gynecologists to get a PAP smear test. Those ovaries are tricky things...

I read often lately that the only way to kill this insanity is by mocking it to death.
johnny reb 49 | 7,257
6 May 2023 #207
the only way to kill this insanity is by mocking it to death.

I look right at them and say, "What kind of freak show are you ?"
Alien 21 | 5,215
6 May 2023 #208
Lately, RTL has been constantly playing some series in which two men are kissing. disgusting. As far as I remember, in the USA for a long time it was forbidden to play kissing scenes in movies, even between a man and a woman. Hmm, but yesterday I heard on the radio that from this season women in the pools do not have to wear bras and it's as part of equality. Ha,ha I never liked going to the pool but maybe I'll change my mind.😉
Lyzko 45 | 9,471
6 May 2023 #209
Ever since the demise of the Eisenhower and the advent of the Woodstock Era, matters concerning personal vs. public morals and convention have all but spun completely out of control!

The post-Hippie Generation surely didn't invent poor to non-existent manners, foul language galore, public displays of filth and prurient behavior with impunity, but they certainly enabled it so that we've gotten to the point we have.

I'm no fan of LGBTQ or transgender culture either. All I ask is that it be contained where it belonged in the first place....in the BOUDOIR or someone' private restroom!!
Novichok 4 | 8,374
6 May 2023 #210
I'm no fan of LGBTQ or transgender culture either.

In the history of mankind, never have so few terrorized so many into tolerance, approval, and admiration so quickly and so irreversibly.
Buoyed by the original success, now we are facing a direct assault on the objective truth. The only acceptable truth is their mental hallucinations.
This fight we simply cannot afford to lose.

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