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TVP producer fired for allowing rainbow flag on the air...


Novichok 1 | 2,937
21 Jul 2021 #61
There is noting to be proud of, thats why nobody can answer the question.

So you are the other sane person here. Thanks. I need some company here.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,666
21 Jul 2021 #62
Its the same in the USA , but not one politician has the guts to try and stop these perverts.

Eh not quite. People in the US have been slowly brainwashed to accept LGBT and give them ever expanding rights. Now you even have the Republicans supporting a tranny for California governor... that is what "conservatism" in the US has come to...

Most stats show that majority in the US does support LGBT, LGBT rights, etc. Definitely not in Poland though. Poll after poll, stat after stat shows numbers of 66%-80%+ being against LGBT.
johnny reb 30 | 5,179
21 Jul 2021 #63
Still can't come up with one reason what gays are proud of?

The first one that comes to mind is that they are proud to stand up to bigots like you.
Have you ever had a gay person tell you how to run your fcked up life ?
Novichok 1 | 2,937
21 Jul 2021 #64
OK
1. Stand up to bigots. Whatever that means.
johnny reb 30 | 5,179
21 Jul 2021 #65
OK
1. Stand up to bigots bigotry. Let's argue.
OP mafketis 29 | 9,509
21 Jul 2021 #66
Karin Ann has released a statement expressing regret that the producer lost his job because she exercised her basic right to free expression and the hope that a broadcaster that values freedom of expression might hire him.
Novichok 1 | 2,937
21 Jul 2021 #67
she exercised her basic right to free expression

A TV interview is not a gay pride parade. Duh!
jon357 67 | 16,808
21 Jul 2021 #68
a broadcaster that values freedom of expression might hire him.

Assuming Kaczyński and his PiSuarzy don't ban them all.
Novichok 1 | 2,937
21 Jul 2021 #69
...just like the leftards do everywhere.
jon357 67 | 16,808
21 Jul 2021 #70
Another pointless drivel comment...

And off topic too.
Novichok 1 | 2,937
21 Jul 2021 #71
Drivel - what the leftists and gays don't like. Golden truth - what the leftists and gays like.
Novichok 1 | 2,937
21 Jul 2021 #73
Yawn - leftist's reaction to what he can't disagree with but dislikes.
rtfm 1 | 63
21 Jul 2021 #74
Bigot - a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.

I would say that encompasses both extremes of the pro and anti lgbt movements unable to have a sensible rational discussion about different views.

The silent majority of the rest of us care not what two or more adult consenting humans want to do with/to each other, and we hold no ill will or feeelings towards people with different preferences. We just don't want to see it in person or promoted in front of us and our family. Sexuality is a private thing between a person and their partner (s).

If there is an opposing reply to this post - don't be a bigot and respond with insults, be an adult and respond with considered words and your own viewpoint.
jon357 67 | 16,808
21 Jul 2021 #75
disagree

There's nothing to 'disagree; with. Just pointless off-topic whining.

We just don't want to see it in person

Do you often see other people making love "in person"? What an exciting life!

promoted in front of us and our family

An utterly meaningless phrase.
rtfm 1 | 63
21 Jul 2021 #76
And there we go. Your response proves my point entirely.

"not wanting to see it [ltbt] promoted..."

By phrase that I mean people find endless parades and protests distasteful and innapropriate for their family life. Not to mention Poland being a Catholic country those kind of displays are offensive to a lot of people.

Of course, by your response I suspect you have a bigoted kind of tolerance only extending to respecting one sides views. This is fairly typical "I demand respect and tolerance but only for my views"

I've said my piece so I'll leave it at that unless you want to have an adult debate with reasoned arguments.
jon357 67 | 16,808
21 Jul 2021 #77
Your response proves my point entirely

Really?

promoted

You haven't tried to explain what you mean by that term. I'm looking forward to it...

I've said my piece

You haven't said much at all.

reasoned arguments.

You haven't even attempted to make one. All you did was claim you dislike something vague without explaining what it is you dislike.
Novichok 1 | 2,937
21 Jul 2021 #78
endless parades and protests distasteful and inappropriate for their family life.

This is known as pushing the envelope.

It works like this. Push it to just below where it is obscene and arrestable. Like two fags simulating fu*cking on a float. Then, when they just kiss or feel their genitals on normal days, the public is actually relieved that that's all. It's like a death sentence being reduced to life-no-parole. It's an improvement.

I have to give credit where credit is due. A 2% minority of perverts terrorizing 98% of normal people - from tolerance to acceptance to admiration - is a major accomplishment and the ONLY reason why the perverts are proud - as they should. Bolsheviks needed almost 10% to succeed in 1917.
Crnogorac3 2 | 413
22 Jul 2021 #79
LGBT+ is a mental illness in which an individual's brain functions contrary to its biological, sexual characteristics (organs), and it is not something that should be celebrated or imposed on the whole society, but these people should be provided with adequate (psychological and medical) help.

Of course, they should not be condemned or stigmatized, but it is insane to impose such an ideology on the whole society, I repeat, an ideology that promotes that it is "quite normal" for your brain, or for you as an individual to function contrary to your biological and sexual characteristics, biological determinants, genitals.

And it is also insane to impose such a way of thinking on mentally underdeveloped children from an early age, because it borders on a despicability where you not only want to present your mental illness as something completely normal, but also want to turn other people's children susceptible to suggestions into similar, mentally damaged people who, let me repeat, DO NOT FUNCTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR BIOLOGICAL AND SEXUAL CHARACTERISTICS.
Novichok 1 | 2,937
22 Jul 2021 #80
...and, therefore, such individuals are biologically useless.
In other words, if LGBTs were not present, society would suffer no negative consequences. Without heterosexuals, society would not exist.
amiga500 2 | 568
22 Jul 2021 #81
if LGBTs were not present, society would suffer no negative consequences.

Actually there is a much higher percentage of gays working in the creative industries, prob some of your favorite music and films are made by them. I would say gays on average are more intelligent, both cognitively and emotionally. Gays on average make more money and are more successful. Property prices rise when gays move into a neighborhood. How do you think these massive billion dollar lobbies are sustained and how the President of Canada can say Pride Month is not enough we need Pride Year? My analyses excludes the trannies of course.
SamUK84
22 Jul 2021 #82
Another perspective is that LGBT+ movement is just about glorifying sex addiction, international big business depends on sex addiction in order to continue to function. It's the only reason we all watch screens, without screens there can be no effective advertising and the wheels come off. Screens bad.
OP mafketis 29 | 9,509
22 Jul 2021 #83
It's really depressing how many people here can't think straight.

The question is not whether you support gay rights or not. The question is do you support tax funded media censoring images?

A singer said a few sentences (that most of the audience probably did not understand) and held a rainbow flag and a person who didn't censor that lost his job.

If you support him losing his job, then you have a PRL-Soviet mentality and want the ruling party to control what is seen on TV.
Ironside 50 | 11,258
22 Jul 2021 #84
then you have a PRL-Soviet mentality and want the ruling party to control what is seen on TV.

Nah that BS. Progressives are doing that same and fakebook/twitter too. Are they endowed with PRL mentality too?
Novichok 1 | 2,937
22 Jul 2021 #85
Progressives are doing that same and fakebook/twitter too.

Every single day in a country that has the 1st Amendment!

prob some of your favorite music and films are made by them.

Sure, when you (editorial) are biologically useless, have no kids to raise, or a wife to argue with, have no bills to pay but plenty of time, it's easy to be creative.

Nobody has so far shown causation: Another man's rectum makes you a talented musician. But it sure can give you AIDS. Good.
jon357 67 | 16,808
22 Jul 2021 #86
The question is do you support tax funded media censoring images?

Exactly, however a certain topic fascinates some; it probably haunts their dreams too.

With state-owned media, as with all media, there will always be a degree of censorship and manipulation, from not showing images of flashing lights, through the 9pm watershed for violence, close-up nudity, animal cruelty, gore, corpses and intoxicants, through banning "subliminal" content, through the Ministry of Health lobbying soap opera producers to include content about specific illnesses, impairments or health campaigns, through discretion on defence and security issues, to (in countries where that applies), lèse-majesté.

What isn't acceptable is censorship or propaganda on the basis of the political programme of a ruling party. State TV is taxpayer-funded, and taxpayers vote for a whole range of different parties, have different outlooks on life and have different degrees of 'broadmindedness'. Countries who have some respect for their state TV take care to balance (this is often enshrined in their operating charters) opposing and differing voices on news programmes, opposing and differing outlooks and to exercise censorship with a light hand.

There's no reason whatsoever to censor according to the point of view of the most conservative in society, nor is there any reason to censor according to the point of view of the most liberal in society. There are reasons to censor the violence, close-up nudity, animal cruelty, gore, corpses and intoxicants mentioned above, however there is no reason to censor an image that is widespread and visible, like a rainbow flag, and certainly no reason to start firing TV producers.

Once again TVPiS and the PiSflappers have made fools of themselves and exposed Poland to ridicule. Poland deserves better state TV. With the infrastructure and talent that they had, TVP could have been among the most highly-respected state broadcasters. Now it is among the least-respected and is a national and international joke.

I would say gays on average are more intelligent, both cognitively and emotionally. Gays on average make more money and are more successful.

There are some real high achievers and more lawyers, academics and law enforcement officers than you can shake a stick at; one reason that every battle has been won.

glorifying sex addiction, international big business depends on sex addiction in order to continue to function

A meaningless phrase if ever there was one.
Novichok 1 | 2,937
22 Jul 2021 #87
there is no reason to censor an image that is widespread and visible, like a rainbow flag,

An invitation to a TV interview is not an invitation to a gay pride parade, even if that parade has only one person parading.
If they allow it, they should allow anti-gay displays - just to watch them go apeshit the next day. Polish government promotes gay hate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jon357 67 | 16,808
22 Jul 2021 #88
An invitation to a TV interview is not an invitation to a gay pride parade

Exactly. It wasn't any sort of 'parade' at all, was it.

Just a widespread image, visible all over the place.

If they allow it, they should allow anti-gay displays

They do. Even plenty.
Novichok 1 | 2,937
22 Jul 2021 #89
It wasn't any sort of 'parade' at all, was it.

OK. Give me the noun that fits.
jon357 67 | 16,808
22 Jul 2021 #90
If you support him losing his job, then you have a PRL-Soviet mentality and want the ruling party to control what is seen on TV.

And if they did, it still wouldn't be enough for some.

There are even people who think that Saudi state TV is too liberal and that is already even closer to Gilead than the PiSuarzy or the Korwin sect's most troubled wet dreams.


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