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Poles say a big YES to our European Union


Ironside 49 | 10,311
1 Feb 2020 #241
wise opinion which will refute my silly one

What would be a point of that? Opinions are just opinions it makes no difference to me what is your opinion. I just express what I think about it. Simple.

There is nothing that need to be refuted because short of being clairvoyant, you make a lot assumptions based on a hot air you spew.

In other words there is nothing in your post that needs to be refuted. You should make an effort and post something with meat rather than bare bones of your fear and obsessions'. What to refute - you own them and only thing I can say to that is - don't be afraid it is gonna to be ok.

) You could say "The Internet" as well.

dude type in googles interia.pl and you will find it there.. you need to do it now.

It is not difficult.
pawian 170 | 11,349
1 Feb 2020 #242
In other words there is nothing in your post that needs to be refuted.

That`s nice you are so relaxed. OK, as you wish, we will use the same method on you. Only on you. :):)

type in googles interia.pl and you will find it there.. It is not difficult.

hahaha no, darling, it is your job to provide the link. We don`t have time to deal with that BS of yours. :):)
Crow 139 | 8,609
1 Feb 2020 #243
I told you. Russia can`t digest that. What is the wisdom in "embrace" Poland (or any other country) if you do it over the traitors? What then with opposition? Russia would that way get embryo of its self-destruction from within.

Not to speak that Serbs have their own plans to offer deal to Poles. Why would Russia intervene in that? Why prevent other inter-Slavic deals if those deals aren`t hostile on Russia? Why be that greedy? Why turn Serbs into enemy?

Don`t know for other Russia`s neighbors. Let those neighbors care for themselves, in this world without `International order`.

But, Slavic world has its older rules and internal balance. Even Russia must obey to that balance if wants to survive.
Spike31 3 | 1,637
8 Feb 2020 #244
This is interesting.

Marion Maréchal, a niece of Marine Le Pen has shared her political vision of Europe in Italy this weak:

« I imagine à latin alliance between France, Spain, Italy and Portugal. A latin alliance which would walk with the Visegrad countries. An alliance that keeps the link with Britain and Russia. » #Roma #NationalConservatism

twitter.com/MarionMarechal/status/1224699470962659328
pawian 170 | 11,349
8 Feb 2020 #245
An alliance that keeps the link with Britain and Russia

You like the idea of this link to Russia, right?
Spike31 3 | 1,637
6 Apr 2020 #246
Spain is about to introduce a universal basic income making it precursory socialist haven in the EU. Given the state of Spanish economy it is going to collapse.

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-05/spanish-government-aims-to-roll-out-basic-income-soon
Crow 139 | 8,609
6 Apr 2020 #247
Marine Le Pen

She will win France. Can`t make France great again but will make it cope. Non can restore France, things went too far.

Visegrad countries. An alliance that keeps the link with Britain and Russia

I would say, Central European Union that keeps link to other world powers. Link with all factors of influence.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,752
7 Apr 2020 #248
Given the state of Spanish economy it is going to collapse.

Good. The only way to recover from the mental disorder called socialism is by hitting the bottom. Spain will be no exception.
Crow 139 | 8,609
7 Apr 2020 #249
Complete western Europe will face economic collapse. Its shift from Uni-Polar world into Multi-Polar. Corona is to cement it. Until now western Europe and USA ruled the world. We all were colony to them. Now is different, several centers deciding. Even USA facing troubles but will be excluded from major crisis and collapse, due to deal with other powers. But Western Europe is now on its own. Can you even comprehend what colonial basis lost western Europe. Their economy depended on cheap resources and money flow that they arranged.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,266
7 Apr 2020 #250
Given the state of Spanish economy it is going to collapse.

Meanwhile in Poland, the government is busy trying to change the rules of elections and introducing new bills to the Sejm while ignoring the needs of people and businesses. Your man Bosak has plenty to say on the topic, after all.
Crow 139 | 8,609
7 Apr 2020 #251
Political commentators in my country always underline that no matter all moves of official Poland, Polish people and that country represent our close kin. So, Poland will be alright. Somebody here (and here people who needs to know, know) knows Poland belongs to winning side, that will survive and it calms me. I don`t sense tension or doom of Poland in the air. Poland will be good. Corey Lewandowski moving around here is best proof of it.

All expats from western Europe now living in Poland are truly lucky people.
kondzior 10 | 1,021
7 Apr 2020 #252
The only way to recover from the mental disorder called socialism is by hitting the bottom. Spain will be no exception.

Spain is a special breed of retards, they bought COVID-19 on themselves because they were bored of some sh!t. For example they could have postponed the Women's march in Madrid but feminist ideology was more important than saving lives.
PolAmKrakow 1 | 434
7 Apr 2020 #253
@delphiandomine

And passing things in the middle of the night with a small margin because the opposition was home sleeping. This really has the look and feel of being more like a high school run election than one of the largest countries in Europe. Its a pretty simple thing. If the crisis is over, have a vote, if not then postpone. Any other discussion than that is really about putting personal interests ahead of peoples lives.
mafketis 23 | 8,404
7 Apr 2020 #254
If the crisis is over, have a vote, if not then postpon

But JK loves wheeling and dealing and scheming...

putting personal interests ahead of peoples lives

When push came to shove PiS put its own interests over that of the public... for all their many faults (which are many, many, many) PO never came close to the reckless disregard for public safety that PiS has shown...
Spike31 3 | 1,637
7 Apr 2020 #255
@delphiandomine, as a Scottish unionist you must feel very uneasy these days.

On one hand, you're against Scottish nationalism (or any other European nationalism) and opting for Scotland being a part of Great Britain where London makes most of the decissions for you.

On the other hand UK has left the EU, an organisation to which you seem to be subservient, and ruling Scottish National Party wants to regain independence from the UK and become a sovereign state and yet remain in the EU at the same time.

What would you choose: a Scottish nationalism within the EU or Scotland a being part of the UK yet outside of neomarxist heaven steered from the Brussels?

Decisions, decisions...
Crow 139 | 8,609
10 Apr 2020 #256
Wait, did I understand well? All debts of EU are to be shared among member countries. So now Spanish, Italian, Greek, etc debts also belong to Poland.

People, EU is madness.
Spike31 3 | 1,637
11 Apr 2020 #257
Wait, did I understand well? All debts of EU are to be shared among member countries

No, it's not gong to happen. France would like to build "ever closer union" and Germany would also like to have more control over Europe but they don't want to pay Italian and Greek (and soon Spanish) debt.

So fortunatelly, south European debt is protecting us from a project of "European federation" even if some politicians wanted to pursue it.

Well, that and obviously V4 countries wouldn't allow for that either.
Torq 32 | 2,999
11 Apr 2020 #258
This coronavirus crisis should be a good opportunity to set new financial/economic rules of the EU:

- absolute ban on budget deficits
- 25 years of debt prohibition - no new debts allowed until 2045 (after this period, the prohibition will be extended for another 25 years etc.)
- drastic reduction of parasitic administration, useless government officials, and state-owned companies' board members
- bringing back of EVERY f*cking European company and factory from China back to Europe
- maximum custom tariffs on everything Chinese until they pay full compensation for the losses caused by Chinavirus

OK, that would be enough for a start.
Crow 139 | 8,609
12 Apr 2020 #259
So fortunatelly, south European debt is protecting us from a project of "European federation"

Yes, it crossed my mind. It will buy some more time to Poland to milking the cow. But again, be careful. I`m afraid, one who exit EU would always pay enormous price. So, best way for Poland to abandon EU is actually that EU collapse. Pray for collapse.

V4 countries wouldn't allow for that either.

I would always count more on V4. Actually, V4 plus
Tacitus 2 | 1,136
12 Apr 2020 #260
It would be good if the EU learned from this crisis and made sure that strategic products can be produced in the EU if needed.
Crow 139 | 8,609
12 Apr 2020 #261
I say, let us finally learn to speak openly. EU is Fourth Reich. Even Islam there is exactly as Hitler desired and managed to experiment with on Balkans. Read what happened on Balkans between 1941-1945 to 1991-1995 and see what will happen to Germany and entire EU.
Torq 32 | 2,999
12 Apr 2020 #262
EU is Fourth Reich

Of course. It is well known that when the highest EU authorities meet (in secret!) they listen together to this song...

youtube.com/watch?v=e1RMSjGXwJk&pbjreload=10

... whilst plotting to completely destroy Serbia.

*rolls eyes*
Crow 139 | 8,609
12 Apr 2020 #263
No, they listen this > Hvala ti Njemačka (Danke Deutschland Schön) > youtube.com/watch?v=XKpSvGRvvbI

Germany pushed them in war and they Thank them. Its all nice but, they can Thank to Germany only with those lands that belong to them. Rest we take back and wish farewell to EU Reich on the way to hell.
Torq 32 | 2,999
12 Apr 2020 #264
wish farewell to EU Reich on the way to hell

Correct me if I'm wrong, I really wouldn't like to jump to conclusions, but from your numerous posts on this board I gather that one would be quite wrong to call you a fan of the EU or a Germanophile?
Crow 139 | 8,609
12 Apr 2020 #265
But I love Germany. They are Swebozi (Serbs; but who isn`t). Must be way to correct their errorous thinking. But EU is lost case.
Torq 32 | 2,999
12 Apr 2020 #266
They are Swebozi (Serbs; but who isn`t).

Exactly. As the Bible (Serbian version) says: "In the beginning there was nothing, only God walking through the streets of Belgrade."

*eye roll of absolutely epic proportions*
Crow 139 | 8,609
12 Apr 2020 #267
Something like that.
Spike31 3 | 1,637
20 Apr 2020 #268
"Italians' confidence in European institutions collapses. A research by Diamanti, published yesterday in Repubblica, confirmed this: 70% of the interviewees expressed "little" or "no" consent to the EU."

ilgiornale.it/news/politica/italiani-contro-germania-ci-strozza-1850897.html

A possible collapse of the EU is probably the only upside of Chinese flu hysteria. My only concern is that Italians, like most southerners, jump from one strong emotion to another and may quickly forget about those issues.
mafketis 23 | 8,404
20 Apr 2020 #269
only concern is that Italians, like most southerners, jump from one strong emotion to another and may quickly forget

Yeah, who ever heard of Italian vendettas?
mafketis 23 | 8,404
8 May 2020 #270
Any comment from the Germans on this....?

spiked-online.com/2020/05/08/germany-has-dealt-a-blow-to-the-eu/

Or this? It seems that covid "recovery" is just a holding tactic before more catastrophic austerity...

bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=44804

The more EU actors insist on austerity the greater the chance that one or more countries may end up wanting out...


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