Rape and sexual abuse in Poland

It doesn't so just pipe down little guy.
Just where does all your anger and hate come from ?

No, I wouldn't. I also wouldn't like to be in Dresden, Hiroshima, or Nagasaki when those were turned into hellholes...

And your point is that it's not nice to see the enemy suffer?

Actually, it is fun...You see, genius, every Gestapo Hans was once a very cute little baby so killing that baby was a good thing before it was able to torture and murder. Right?

What a stupid woman...

BTW, did you know that Auschwitz female guards were more cruel than their male buddies?

And that German women happily made ammo and guns that would later be used to murder millions of Soviets?

If anything, German women were treated by the Red Army 100 times better than what Germans did to Russian women in Russia and death camps.

I don't have any anger or hate, just a dislike of trolls and morons.


Probably true, but so what?Does that make the Russians innocent?

Don't be so hard on yourself Mr. Angry

I am not.I am only hard on trolls and morons.Like you.

Simple. Victory must include this message: Don't even think about it again.

The USSR did it its way. The US used nukes. Message sent. Message received.

Why not?


No, I didn't - where did you get that info? And what does it have to do with anything anyway?


Firstly, I'm sure not all women worked in ammo factories. Secondly, you don't know which were doing it "happily". Thirdly, Jews were forced to produce ammo, etc. for Nazis too. Also, I doubt German 12-15-year-old girls were working in factories producing ammo.


There was no "message". They raped, because they could.

I'm saying this because Soviet soldiers were behaving in the same way in countries they were "liberating" from the Nazis.

So what kind of "message" Soviet soldiers intended to send by raping women in Poland? Or by raping women in Serbia?:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_liberation_of_Serbia

That it's better not get "liberated" by the Soviets? lol Well, we definitely got that message.

Rape seems to be a major issue with you Paulina.
You bang on about rape like Novi bangs on about homosexuals.
Its not a normal thing to talk about constantly.
Some serious professional counseling for you may not be out of the question rather than coming to a public forum to let it all out.
Tell me Paulina, have you ever been raped by any chance ?

Someone talking about rape in a thread about rape- who would have thought.


It seems it's men who should learn that lesson first. If they are unable to do that the law may have to make them. Unless of course having sex with an unwilling person is badge of honour in your eyes.

It seems you can't do anything without men, Mesn should this or that to accommodate you. Why?
Do you want to regulate behavior so women could act irresponsibly and get drunk and unconscious in the middle of the street? Really?
The thing is an overwhelming majority of men in normal circumstances would rape a woman receive given a chance, the rest of them would if there would an opportunity, it isn't prudent if you think about women's well-being to teach women to act accordingly rather that shift all the work on men? As usual.
If men are such a driving force and without them, women can't do anything how about shutting up and listening to men who would keep you safe because believe it or not most men are instinctively protective towards women?

Nobody if that were the case Lenka however Paulina is obsessed with rape.
Sounds like she has some daddy issues to me.
She posts about it nonstop and has used the word rape 108 times in the last 18 months alone in several different threads.
In fact she even started this rape thread.
Who would have thought is right.
That is why I keep asking her if she is a rape victim by coming here crying out for some sympathy and healing.
She needs to admit to it (without going into to much detail) so we can be more understanding to offer her support.

Not raping women is work?

Protect us by telling us we can't do things because man may to have to actually not being criminals?

Let's put it this way - while it's wise to keep your possessions secure even if they are not people taking them commit crime.


I want to regulate law so that crime is crime and the criminal faced the consequences.


Sounds like you are a waste of space. Not only and as* but a stupid ass at that.

Now Sweetheart, no need for one of your meltdowns.
Trying to protect her in such a nasty way only makes things much worse for her.
Friends don't do that to friends.
She needs to admit to it (without going into to much detail) so we can be more understanding to offer her support.

Protecting stupid women who act recklessly and put themselves in danger is hard work.
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What things? Telling you that if you act recklessly, irresponsibly, stupidly, or against common sense (which you are free to do as anyone). the consequences of your actions are all yours. Don't shift it on others, Freedom and equality come with responsibility and accountability.
Are women who are too stupid to understand? Or do they think they are above it because they have vaginas and a better than men?
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Such a law already exists why do you believe dumb ideological feminist who tell you their propaganda to fool you?

And how do they do that? I don't see any protection at all.


Great, and in the spirit of responsibility and accountability we want rapist do their time. Including those that thin that just 'no' is not enough. Or that unconscious women is a good sex doll.
And it needed a bit of tweaking to reflect what is rape.

Iron, your post is beyond brilliant.

I prepared a presentation on this subject and went everywhere with it - to high schools, colleges, and universities. No takers. They asked me about my credentials.

WTF... Do we now need a degree to tell our daughters not to be morons and hop into the first car at 3 am?

In this respect, women fail four times:

1. They act like stupid sheep before rape.
2. They don't act logically after the rape.
3. They are against the death penalty.
4. They wear and act like total morons with that look-at-me attitude.

Please spare me that crap that women are free to go naked if they want...Yes, they are just as I am free to lick a socket on the wall.

Are you one of those who need to experience things firsthand to have their eyes opened? Go to Egypt India or Pakistan and behave in the same way you do in Poland. Not in the luxury hotels and alone. If you survive come on PF and tell us about your experiences.
Maybe you are right.
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No, it didn't! You are foolish to assume that some tweaking laws incited by feminists are for the good of women and that will somehow make it better. I won't. It will be more or less the same but with one difference men will be prosecuted by bad, sinister women and even if their number isn't that great it will shift the perception of all men on women and their attitude will change. You will see it getting worse not better.
That is what feminists want anyway - to antagonize women and men and set them against each other. They are toxic.
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In response to this adversarial relationship, men don't want to date and marry. When they do, that engagement ring comes with a prenup...hahahahahahahahaha...
Stupid women didn't foresee this one...To them, marriage is what you earn I keep, what I earn is mine. And when I am bored and file, I keep everything...plus alimony...Life is so sweet...

Absolutely genius Ironside, absolutely brilliant.
Your post #136 is an all-time classic.
Keep up the good work holding these feminists toes to the fire of reality so they accept things the way they are and not the way they want them.

Considering we know about cases when the lack of physical resistance was used to stop the prosecution I would say that yes, this law has a good chance of making things at least a little bit better.


False claims of rape happen already. Why this should make any difference?

That's why for this legislation to be fair it should include countermeasures for false accusations. A woman falsely accusing a man of rape should be subject to equal prison sentence that the falsely accused man would receive if he was found guilty.

Otherwise, there will be women using the new regulations to settle scores for rejection, being passed over for promotion at work etc.

I appreciate that the intentions of lawmakers in this case were noble, but the risk of abusing the new law would seem to be quite high.

Lack of physical resistance can be excused easily. Failure to report immediately cannot be.

A woman who reports rape 30 years later or not at all should be charged with obstruction of justice, tampering with evidence, and being an enabler of all future rapes that could be prevented by throwing the POS into prison for life after the first case.

What should be the penalty for aggravated rape of a 10-year-old girl?

As above plus murder?

It does as all the false accusations do.
Plus reporting it is non revokable. So once a women reports it - that's it. If she lied she can be prosecuted.


Wouldn't be able to do that idiot (besides if she was underaged)

Really? Does a woman falsely accusing a man of rape, trying to destroy his life for whatever reason, face the same prison sentence as the man would if he was found guilty?

If not, the law is unfair and WILL be abused, because false accusers risk less than the accused.

By the way, do you know of any such case in Poland where a woman was sentenced to do time in prison for false accusations of rape?

Can get 8 years.

And it's not like this law removes the necessity for proof. It only changes that a women doesn't have to roof she physically defended herself.

kobieta.wp.pl/zglosilam-gwalt-i-zostalam-skazana-na-wiezienie-katarzyna-nie-moze-sie-pogodzic-z-decyzja-sadu-6424390130694273a?amp=1

Not really. False accusations is not persecuted from article 233 of penal code (which is indeed from 6 months to 8 years) but from art. 234 or 238 (maximum of 2 years in both cases).

The sentence of 3 months from your link confirms that - if she had been sentenced under article 233 it would have been minimum of 6 months.

The penalty for rape is from 2 to 15 years - that's what the falsely accused man was facing. The woman who falsely accused him got 3 months. Don't you see the problem here?

To sum up, I would definitely support the new law if the penalty for false accusations was increased significantly to deter false accusers, and if women were persecuted in every single case of false accusations and not getting away with it, or in the worst case scenario facing monetary fines or bullsh*t sentences of 3 months where the man faces 2-15 years. :(