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President Duda rules out homo marriage in Poland as banned by the constitution


Torq
5 Feb 2020 #151
It's a non-issue. Overwhelming majority of Polish society sees the question of what two adult men do in their free time as their entirely private business (be it collecting stamps, fly fishing, or engaging in a sexual act with each other). Should Poland, in the future, require any laws regarding stamp collectors, fly fishermen or homosexual citizens, I am quite sure such laws will be passed in accordance with logic, decency, and common sense.

Rest assured in the knowledge that none of what you believe in will survive you for long.

Yeah, yeah - we've been hearing that for over 2000 years now. *yaaaaaaaaawn*
Crow 155 | 9,025
5 Feb 2020 #152
Duda us successful politician if able to align himself with venerable US President Trump. Not to obey but to align. Difference is qualitative.

Is Duda successful or retro?
Tacitus 2 | 1,382
5 Feb 2020 #153
Is that it?

You are the one who is so utterly fixated on the act of love between two men that you constantly have to graphically describe it, as if you feel the need to verbalize your own unfullfilled fantasies. Usually the closed gays are the ones who are obsessed with gay peoples love life.

As for the rest. You are a man who spends hours every day spewing hatred against other groups in a foreign country. Doesn't sound like a particulary happy life to me.
pawian 223 | 24,375
5 Feb 2020 #154
What does it mean when a mature person obsessively expresses his/her hatred against LGBT?
Possible reasons:
1. they are LGBT themselves but too scared and embarassed to admit it
2. they have been hurt personally by an LGBT person. Even rape is included here.
3. one of their close relatives came out as LGBT, especially son or daughter.

Any other?
Ziemowit 14 | 4,278
5 Feb 2020 #155
so utterly fixated on the act of love between two men that you constantly have to graphically describe it

Don't know at whom this opinion of yours is directed since I am in the ignore mode with the posts of RM and Dirk, but indeed you seem to be hitting the nail on the head. Unfulfilled fantasies in the field of sex should naturally be overpowering at some point that they somehow must find their outlet. On the other hand, you also meet heterosexual persons talking or alluding to sex all the time, so you may suspect unfulfilled desire there, but in this case - as straightness is considered "normal" - they are never transformed into hatred.

Any other?

If this relates to RM, I would also take into account his great aversion towards Poland and the Polish language. It has actually never crossed my mind before, but once you've mentioned it (in point 2), one might even suspect sexual abuse towards him during his adolescence in Poland..
Lenka 5 | 3,470
5 Feb 2020 #156
I thought marriage was mainly about having children

What about inheritance? What about medical info and the right to make decisions in case your spouse can't? What about tax breaks? What about legal protections in case of testyfying?

Somehow all that is available to straight couples even if they don't have and never intend to have kids.

What percentage of the population is 100% gay?

Seriously? We shouldn't care just because there is not that many of them? Does that apply to any minority? What treshhold should we implement- 10%?

Overwhelming majority of Polish society sees the question of what two adult men do in their free time as their entirely private business

Besides the time when they get beaten up for holding hands. Or are being bullied in school. Or many other things.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
5 Feb 2020 #157
You are the one who is so utterly fixated on the act of love between two men that you constantly have to graphically describe it,

Because you, fags, never do. I can walk into a classroom full of 12-year-old boys and girls and tell them how a man and a woman make love. In graphic detail. You, fags, never do because you know they would throw up. So you resort to euphemisms.

What does it mean when a mature person obsessively expresses his/her hatred against LGBT?

Possible reasons:

1. they are LGBT themselves but too scared and embarrassed to admit it
2. they have been hurt personally by an LGBT person. Even rape is included here.
3. one of their close relatives came out as LGBT, especially son or daughter.

and reasons 4 and 5:

4. It's disgusting
5. Awareness that gays are useless parasites that a society can tolerate only in small numbers. Just imagine fags comprising 50% or visit Castro district in San Francisco and count the kids going to school in the morning.

It's amazing that those two items were omitted from your list, pawian. Did you really forget them or decided to go full PC against common sense.

The proof that it is disgusting is in the fact that two men fu*cking are never shown - even on cable. Even kissing is still in the closet where it should stay forever.
Lenka 5 | 3,470
5 Feb 2020 #158
It doesn't disgust me. It makes no difference to me btw. And a lot of heterosexual couples do exactly the same thing as gay couples do.

As to being parasites- is having kids the only goal? Because if that's the case all those single or infertile or simply childless people are screwed...Unless of course that only somehow applies to gay people
Miloslaw 19 | 4,914
5 Feb 2020 #159
What about inheritance? What about tax breaks? What about legal protections in case of testyfying?

They can have all that in a civil and legally binding union!

What treshhold should we implement- 10%?

It is a lot less than 10%.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,585
5 Feb 2020 #160
Dirk, it is obvious you don`t know what Duda did. Read post 112. :):)

Partnerships have existed for a long time. This is nothing new.

You stating that LGBT is "widely accepted" is totally false and numerous polls show that the majority of Poles DO NOT accept LGBT. The majority of Poles don't accept gay marriage, adoptions, and wouldn't accept a gay boss, teacher, priest, child minder, or even a gay boss. Adoption is especially high with a 2017 poll showing 84% are against gays adopting kids. In all the other categories its a solid majority.

They do accept partnerships and inheritance - that's it. But in terms of adopting kids, being teachers, priests, child minders, etc. that's a firm NO.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Poland

Tu jest Polka, nie Bruksela, tu sie pedalwsta NIE POPIERA!!!



Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
5 Feb 2020 #161
As to being parasites- is having kids the only goal?

Yes. All else are just the side shows.

Because if that's the case all those single or infertile or simply childless people are screwed.

All those single people do not parade while simulating fu*cking. Neither do they call their life styles biologically normal.
Normal women want to be mothers. Normal men want to be fathers. Some, for a variety of reasons, will never be that but they seldom, if ever, call their childless status normal. Later, they will suffer alone while their friends will be hugged by their grandkids.

An empty apartment in December is hell.
Lenka 5 | 3,470
5 Feb 2020 #162
civil and legally binding union!

Not in Poland.
And if it's all the same anyway why differentiate between civil union and marriage? What reason would there be for it?

It is a lot less than 10%

Of course. I was just asking at what point should the rights of minorities be respected. If I asked you if the only family in UK of certain origin or religion should have the same rights as the others I'm sure you would say yes. But suddenly when it comes to gay people their number starts to be as issue
Miloslaw 19 | 4,914
5 Feb 2020 #163
Not in Poland.

I didn't know that.

And if it's all the same anyway why differentiate between civil union and marriage?

Because it makes a mockery of marriage.

But suddenly when it comes to gay people their number starts to be as issue

Being gay cannot be compared to a race or religion.
Lenka 5 | 3,470
5 Feb 2020 #164
Because it makes a mockery of marriage.

Why?
Because saying that you indicate that gay couples are somehow worse than heterosexual ones...

Being gay cannot be compared to a race or religion.

Why not? What is the difference?
Ziemowit 14 | 4,278
5 Feb 2020 #165
why differentiate between civil union and marriage? What reason would there be for it?

If I am not mistaken, it was the Tory Party rather than some Socialists or Liberal-Democrats which legalized homosexual marriage in the UK.

when it comes to gay people their number starts to be as issue

That is for sure a sign of hidden homophobia. Just as when you ask someone if he is racist and he answers 'no'. But when you ask him if he welcomed his daughter marrying a black man, he would say: 'What? Never in my life!'.
Lenka 5 | 3,470
5 Feb 2020 #166
@Rich
More and more people decide not to have kids or want remain single. And they are saying it loudly and clearly. Dropping birth rate would suggest that more and more people don't see having kids as their life's goal.

That is for sure a sign of hidden homophobia

I wouldn't go that far but if you add this to it:

Because it makes a mockery of marriage.

It starts to point in that direction
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
5 Feb 2020 #167
that gay couples are somehow worse than heterosexual ones...

They are. Like two nails or two hammers.
Fags are funny. First, it was: hey, heteros, stay the hell out of my bedroom. What we do there is none of your damn business.

Then: hey, heteros, call us "marriage" and give us the tax breaks because we suck each other's dicks.

Notice, that without that dick sucking, those two guys would be "roommates" and would not qualify for any tax breaks.

Conclusion: dick sucking is now a taxpayer supported activity where same-gender "marriage" is legal. Brilliant.

More and more people decide not to have kids or want remain single.

...and that is how the tribes die. Add to it the gayification and abortions - two things the Muslim societies frown on - and you have a biological disaster in the making.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,914
5 Feb 2020 #168
Why?

Because marriage is much more than just a legal contract and for thousands of years has been between a man and a woman.
Not two men or two women.
Why should 2% of the population be allowed to ruin an institution that has served us well for so long?
A severe case of "The tail wagging the dog".
Marriage is primarily for having children.
Gays can't do that.
I am also against gay adoption, which is nothing short of child abuse.
What is wrong with a legally binding civil partnership?
In the UK some hetero couples are now opting for that instead of marriage, largely when they don't want to have kids.

What is the difference?

You are not seriously comparing sexuality to race or religion?
They are three completely different things.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,585
5 Feb 2020 #169
Because saying that you indicate that gay couples are somehow worse than heterosexual ones...

They are. There's nothing productive about them. In fact, its thanks to gays that STDs especially HIV are so high in the developed world. The point of a relationship is to eventually get married, have kids, those kids have grandkids, etc. Gay couples can't do that naturally. And even if they end up adopting or go the IVF route, those kids end up severely bullied and ****** up later in life. To top it off, gay couples brainwash their kids into thinking they should also be gay and promote things like transexualism, gender ideology, etc.

Like I said, Poles can learn a few things from the fundamentalist Muslims in terms of how to deal with gays. That's one thing that the Muslims got right for sure.
Ironside 53 | 12,424
5 Feb 2020 #170
Who are you to judge such matter, Ironside?

I'm who I'm. You have problem with it? Scram.

Donate public money to Rydzyk

They donate more to some or other leftie BS. I bet you wouldn't see a problem then. You such a prune. Public money shouldn't be donated to anyone.

Prosecute people for interfering with hunts

For breaking a law. How dare they?

Close shops on Sunday

While people in India are starving. Same on them ....like WTF? Is that you beef with a gov. You're a lucky guy.

Hateful old bigots like RM are a dying breed,

Well, hatful new bigots' preaching progressivism should be booted. It is only right. Ireland at some point was ruled by priests but schools were ruled by a-holes. Poland is nothing like Ireland. Cleary is clergy, lay people won't take this BS.

depressed old man

Ageism? You going to be like that too, do you want to bet?
Crow 155 | 9,025
5 Feb 2020 #171
Tu jest Polka, nie Bruksela, tu sie pedalwsta NIE POPIERA!!!

Ohhhh. Thanks for sharing this image dobri Pane. So Poles would refuse penetration. Interesting
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
5 Feb 2020 #172
Here is the ultimate in gender confusion...Paraphrasing: a man, after receiving sperm from a women, delivered a baby. No, I am not making this sh*it up.

This is where the perverts, assisted by the perversion loving PC morons, are taking the gullible sheep...and the rest of us.

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