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President Duda rules out homo marriage in Poland as banned by the constitution


Polonius3 994 | 12,367
26 Jan 2017 #1
Radio Poland has reported President Andrzej Duda as saying the issue of marriage is "clearly and expressly regulated by the Constitution". Asked by TV Republika whether "international organisations, various lobby groups and also some European countries" could force Poland to accept gay marriage, Duda replied: "I unequivocally repeat: marriage in accordance with the Polish Constitution is a union between a man and a woman." Neither does Poland allow civil partnerships for same-sex couples, reflecting the majority view in this staunchly Catholic country.

It's probably only a matter of time before Trump gets round to reinstating the Bush-era Defence of Marriage Act (DOMA) which banned same-sex marriage in the USA.
Ziemowit 14 | 4,278
26 Jan 2017 #2
Same-sex marriage is of course silly and completely out of sense, but same-sex couple partnership should be allowed in a civilised country. Does "that cat Duda" understand it or not, do you think?
Lenka 5 | 3,475
26 Jan 2017 #3
No suprise there. Did anyone expected PiS to change anything in that matter? No news story.
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
26 Jan 2017 #4
anyone expected PiS to change anything

No, PiS cannot be expected to change anything for the worse. That's PO's and
Petru's department. PiS only change things for the better. That's why they're called the "good-change government".
Ironside 53 | 12,424
26 Jan 2017 #5
No suprise there. Did anyone expected PiS to change anything in that matter? No news story.

Polonius is saying - Yay, they're good as gold Ha!
Not - they're backwood and smelly.
Chemikiem
26 Jan 2017 #6
This thread is just another excuse for you to bang on about homosexuals........again. Yawn.
This 'news' comes as no surprise whatsoever.
Lenka 5 | 3,475
26 Jan 2017 #7
PiS only change things for the better. That's why they're called the "good-change government".

Yeah, yeah, keep on repeating that like a mantra and maybe you'll convince someone.
Seriously do you have your slogans stored somewhere so you can paste them in your posts? Would save you a lot of time...

Not - they're backwood and smelly.

What he's doing is creating yet another thread in news that is no news but just the opportunity for him to praise PiS and moan about homosexuals. Boring really and irritating
Harry
26 Jan 2017 #8
No suprise there.

The surprise is that somebody from the PiSlamic State (while that cat Duda obviously takes his orders from The Dear Leader Chairman Kaczynski, he isn't officially a member of PIS) has remembered that Poland has a constitution.

Sadly it's no surprise that the mods have let Polly have a thread with a homophobic slur in the title. But I suppose that at least this way casual visitors to PF don't need to look at more than just the front page to see what time site has become.
TicTacToe
26 Jan 2017 #9
Marriage should be the family unit. Man, woman and child. Not man, man and child.

Civil partnership that gives gay couples rights in law I am for but not marriage and I have a gay brother who's marriage I was best man at, I didn't approve but I love my brother so did it.
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
26 Jan 2017 #11
good as gold

A decent party such as PiS keep their election promises. Tusk promised no tax rises and as soon as he got to power he raised VAT from 22 to 23%. Trump is also keeping his word building a wall to keep out undesirbale aliens, restricting Muslim immigration and not forcing taxpayers to bankroll prenatal infanticide. Eventually America may cease being a cessspol of decadent "progressivism" and return to its trarditional Christian roots. It's a good thing Poland hasn't embarked on the road to legally sanctioned immorality.
RubasznyRumcajs 5 | 498
26 Jan 2017 #12
PiS only change things for the better. That's why they're called the "good-change government"

mwahaha! I like your jokes, I admit.
PiS already has screwed up things, e.g. international adoption etc. "Dobra zmiana" my arse
Harry
26 Jan 2017 #13
A decent party such as PiS keep their election promises.

Pretty much the only promise that cat Duda made during the election was to help people who had taken out Swiss franc mortgages. It's a promise he's broken.
mafketis 37 | 10,892
26 Jan 2017 #14
just the opportunity for him to praise PiS and moan about homosexuals

Polly moaning about men having sex with each other..... sounds about right.
Ironside 53 | 12,424
26 Jan 2017 #15
the election was to help people who had taken out Swiss franc mortgages. It's a promise he's broken.

Well, if you understand help as the state paying up the difference for someone mortgages - than you are right. If helps means anything that possible in those circumstances then you're wrong.

How about we focus on those who are responsible for such a situation like PO, and those who were actively advertising those mortgages like Petru? Let him give back money he made lying to people on behave of banks.

to praise PiS and moan about homosexuals. Boring really and irritating

Why? If he want to praise PiS let him do it.

PiS already has screwed up things

How about a swift kick in the arse? I don't care about your opinion and maybe they screwed up something or other. However you were silent for the eight years of PO f...k ups. So your credibility is non-existent.
RubasznyRumcajs 5 | 498
26 Jan 2017 #16
How about a swift kick in the arse? I don't care about your opinion and maybe they screwed up something or other.

if you wouldn't care, you wouldn't answer it. primo
and how does my "silence" (although no, I wasn't silent- but lets assume I was) makes it any less problematic, and their screws up less screwwy?
NoToForeigners 9 | 998
26 Jan 2017 #17
how does my "silence" (..) makes it any less problematic, and their screws up less screwwy?

It doesn't. It just makes your opinion biased and therefore meaningless.
mafketis 37 | 10,892
26 Jan 2017 #18
"clearly and expressly regulated by the Constitution"

Now he's worried about the constitution after helping his master rape it? Not impressed.
Lenka 5 | 3,475
26 Jan 2017 #19
Why? If he want to praise PiS let him do it.

I'm not stopping him, I'm expressing my opinion. If he has the right to create yet another thread with all his typical cliches then I have the right to say I find it irritating and boring. Especially since it's a news in the same way I'm a queen of England.

I'm waiting for announcement that PiS will not remove religion from schools, won't vote Kaczynski out as the party's leader or something obvious like that. And then we can all go 'wow! Really?! I never would have guessed that! It changed my life!' If I practice long enough I may even say it with a straight face
NoToForeigners 9 | 998
26 Jan 2017 #20
@Lenka
Bit he isn't simply stating the obvious Lenka. He's paraphrasing words of Mr. President in a recently broadcasted interview with TV Republika and that makes it news.
mafketis 37 | 10,892
26 Jan 2017 #21
in a recently broadcasted interview with TV Republika and that makes it news

Correction. That makes it _hilarious_!
Lenka 5 | 3,475
26 Jan 2017 #22
Bit he isn't simply stating the obvious Lenka. He's paraphrasing words of Mr. President

Which doesn't make it any less obvious. I would even say that it's obvious because of who said it.
Ironside 53 | 12,424
26 Jan 2017 #23
if you wouldn't care, you wouldn't answer it. primo

I don't care about your opinion per se. Maybe they did screw up something! You might be even right in regard to one or other specific issue. That is all beside the point.

The point I'm making here is that I'm fed up with a number of people that came out of the woodwork with their 'opinions' ready and formed. Who on every and each opportunity they get rightly or wrongly talk about screw ups of PiS. What a terrible job they are doing, so on and so forth.

I'm fed up with them because they're not genuine critics and they're not honest and straightforward in presenting their case. They pretend to be impartial, speak from the high horse of moral or intellectual superiority when in fact they're heavily biased and partisan.

I would respect somebody who would say - I'm against PiS because this and that but in this particular case they're doing a good job. However in such and such cases they are doing a bad job and here is why I think that....

Most people post like you. Few slogans and your opinion. What is the point of this? I have no respect for people like that. Partisan, biased and dishonest as to their motivations and above all 'mediocre niggers'.

And then we can all go 'wow! Really?! I never would have guessed that! It changed my life!' If I practice long enough I may even say it with a straight face

News are not here to change your life or to entertain you. News are there (or should be) to inform the general populace about certain facts. I'm sure that all voters in Poland are interested to know what is president's and probably PiS's stance on this issue.

That how voters make a learned choices on whom they should vote. ( at least that how it should work) In your case you won't vote on PiS no matter what they say, I get that. For most people who are not partisan and biased all that ain't that simple.

Now he's worried about the constitution after helping his master rape it? Not impressed.

I'm! did know that one can rape constitution that new and perverted.
Lenka 5 | 3,475
26 Jan 2017 #24
I'm sure that all voters in Poland are interested to know what is president's and probably PiS's stance on this issue

The thing is though that everyone knows their stance on that issue. That's what I'm arguing.

For most people who are not partisan and biased all that ain't that simple.

Oh get of your high horse.
1-ppl don't make their voting choices by what they read on PF
2- Polonius is the most biased here just pro not against and somehow you don't have a problem with that
3-as I said, PiS stance on homosexual relationships is well known
If you notice I didn't say anything against PiS just that this is a no news 'news'.
Ironside 53 | 12,424
26 Jan 2017 #25
The thing is though that everyone knows their stance on that issue.

They know what they have claimed to be their stance. Those news tell their supporters that PiS is consistent and keep its promises.

ppl don't make their voting choices by what they read on PF

You have been complaining about news and about Polonius repeating those news on PF.

Polonius is the most biased here just pro not against and somehow you don't have a problem with that

Why should I? He is not hiding that he is partisan and biased. Plus he doesn't have a problem with that that some one who disagree with him post some news on PF.

We're not talking about Polonius but about the fact that many people who are voting are not partisan and biased but make learned choices as to their voting preferences. For such a people news about stance on 'gay marriage' is an important titbit of information.

I said, PiS stance on homosexual relationships is well known

As I said and I'm repeating here - its never hurt to reaffirm constituency of a party of the party stance on certain issues. That is a norm in politicks.

If you notice I didn't say anything against PiS just that this is a no news 'news'.@ Lenka

I think that you make a big deal out of nothing.
johnny reb 49 | 7,094
26 Jan 2017 #26
Neither does Poland allow civil partnerships for same-sex couples, reflecting the majority view in this staunchly Catholic country.

Seems we tried to POUND that fact thru several of the posters heads here in the last year or two as they put their fingers in their ears and stomped their feet in denial.

The immoral Liberals do not believe in God because they couldn't justifiably sin if they did.
I still have never figured out how less then 3% of the population (Homo's & Lesbians) get so much attention in Poland.
What ever happened to that stupid rainbow ?
Hopefully it rusted and fell apart.
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
26 Jan 2017 #27
PiS will not remove religion from schools

If PiS did that it would be the equivalent of raping young children, depriving them of genuine, time-tested values and turning them over to the vultures and hyenas of commercial pop culture, recreational drugs, violence, "if it rocks your boat, go for it", "róbta co chceta" and all the other liberal-leftist "advancements" they are subjected to by those out after their pocket money.
Crow 155 | 9,025
27 Jan 2017 #28
Duda should turn to Hungary and to Serbia while there is still enough time. No need to knock on the door, no humiliation, no special words. Simple halo would be enough.
Marsupial - | 880
27 Jan 2017 #29
Its the same with our constitution here. There was supposed to be referendum on the subject but opposition killed it so now there won't be one and it won't be changed, for now. The opposition wants to just do it, they don't want us to have a say because they and the homos know it won't get in. Sounds like Poland is just not even going to consider it. What did actually happen to that rainbow thing? Hopefully it was recycled into something useful.
Crnogorac3 4 | 864
27 Jan 2017 #30
What did actually happen to that rainbow thing? Hopefully it was recycled into something useful.

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