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Eligiusz Niewiadomski assassinated the first Polish President


WINGEDHUSSAR 2 | 2
13 Feb 2013 #1
This Artist assassinated the first Polish President....does anyone know whether he had any children ?
jon357 74 | 22,056
13 Feb 2013 #2
Yes, he did. Interestingly enough, his mother was of German ethnicity and his wife was related to the person he so cruelly murdered.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,369
13 Feb 2013 #3
for those who might like to know more.

"On December 16, 1922, the newly elected President attended the opening of an art exhibition at the Zachęta Art Gallery. Niewiadomski, a frequent guest at such gatherings, approached Narutowicz and shot him. Arrested on December 30, he was sentenced to death by firing squad, and the sentence was carried out at the Warsaw Citadel on January 31, 1923. He was 53 years old. His body was interred at Warsaw's Powązki Cemetery." Wikipedia
OP WINGEDHUSSAR 2 | 2
19 Feb 2013 #4
Can you please give me Christian names for the children
Suwka - | 21
19 Feb 2013 #5
Stefan, Anna
jan.bodakowski.salon24.pl/453920,eligiusz-niewiadomski
pawian 224 | 24,465
24 Jun 2020 #6
Niewiadomski,

He was a nationalist and a fan of Dmowski. He killed the liberal President who was distrusted and loathed by the rightwing parties. They had organised a hate campaign against Narutowicz, provoking murderous actions.

youtu.be/2XnZdgnzbdM
Ironside 53 | 12,420
24 Jun 2020 #7
He was a nationalist and a fan of Dmowski

he was mentally ill.

organised a hate campaign against Narutowicz,

they had a point as he was elected by votes of the left and minorities.
pawian 224 | 24,465
24 Jun 2020 #8
he was mentally ill.

Like the murderer of Gdańsk Mayor who was allowed to watch state TV in prison and gradually get wound up to the point of killing after being released. I was going to mention it as an example of history repetition - the right organises a hate campaign resulting in assassination.

they had a point as he was elected by votes of the left and minorities.

Yes, but that was an attempt at democracy in a newly regained state and the rightards flunked it all.
Zlatko
24 Jun 2020 #9
I have long held that political news are bad for you. You are what you eat...or what you watch/read. Most news is fear-inducing propaganda.
Ironside 53 | 12,420
24 Jun 2020 #10
es, but that was an attempt at democracy in a newly regained state a

Since it was a newly reigned state shouldn't Poles choose their president .

the right organises a hate campaign r

What a BS? Left is of course an innocent bystander - what a joke. Also it is democracy in action is not a hate campaign but people expressing their views openly. I don't expect such a commie fossil like you to grasp it.
jon357 74 | 22,056
25 Jun 2020 #11
Poles

Or Polish voters...

Including the many Poles on:

the left

Narutowicz was a good man; it's a shame he was murdered. If he hadn't been, his impact would have been huge.

Political violence seems to be the favourite tool of the far-right, that and outright lying which we see at the moment.
pawian 224 | 24,465
25 Jun 2020 #12
his impact would have been huge.

Who knows? I am thinking of the next important event which happened at the time, namely May Coup d/etat by Piłsudski in 1926. Would it have taken place with Narutowicz in position or not? I have no idea.

Political violence seems to be the favourite tool of the far-right, that and outright lying which we see at the moment.

It is all true and refers to all right, not only far. They seem to imagine they have the right to use morally dubious methods in order to defend certain values, dear to them. But the methods they exploit by far outweigh the moral gains of values they strive for. In result, the rightists do more evil than good although their initial intentions are positive. Such a little paradox.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
25 Jun 2020 #13
Would it have taken place with Narutowicz in position or not?

I think it would have. Narutowicz would have probably ended up failing under the pressure, and I don't see a scenario in which Poland suddenly becomes governable and the circumstances of the May Coup don't occur. Piłsudski would always have been the elephant in the corner, I think, and people were always looking at him for the answers.
Ironside 53 | 12,420
25 Jun 2020 #14
Political violence seems to be the favourite tool of the far-right

It is a vile lie. Also far - right is a word from Bolshevik propaganda that shows your true colors.
pawian 224 | 24,465
25 Jun 2020 #15
Narutowicz would have probably ended up failing under the pressure,

Yes, the right and nationalists would have organised brawls all the time and Piłsudski would have stepped in anyway like he did in 1926.

far - right is a word from Bolshevik propaganda

All words come from somewhere. The origin doesn`t matter, the current meaning and its perception do. Far right is far right and you won`t change it. Are you like Don Quixote fighting windmills?
Ironside 53 | 12,420
27 Jun 2020 #16
he right and nationalists would have organised brawls

With each other or they hired people to oppose them? Even nonsee should have some standards.

The origin doesn`t matter, the current meaning and its perception do

oh might sorry, it is word used in a neo Marxist ideology to dehumanize their opponents. Very democratic lol!
jon357 74 | 22,056
27 Jun 2020 #17
Also far - right is a word from Bolshevik propaganda

No it isn't.

And the far-right fetishise violence, it is in their political dna.
mafketis 37 | 10,906
27 Jun 2020 #18
And the far-right fetishise violence,

So does the far left.... it's more exact to say "political extremists" fetishize violence...
Ironside 53 | 12,420
27 Jun 2020 #19
No it isn't.

of course it is.

it is in their political dna.

Nope, again nonsense.
What with left dna? Gulags millions of dead and destitute and they're brazen enough to came back for more?
jon357 74 | 22,056
27 Jun 2020 #20
of course it is.

Don't be silly.

What with left dna?

As former nomenklatura you should be well aware. Progress.
Ironside 53 | 12,420
27 Jun 2020 #21
Don't be silly.

Being factual is not being silly. That is the way to oppose a totalitarian ideology.

As former nomenklatura

Me? I was too young to be anything other but a student. Why would you cast aspersion?
jon357 74 | 22,056
27 Jun 2020 #22
Being factual is

You're not being factual. You're conflating any politics that's left of ultra-conservatism (i.e. almost the whole political spectrum) with Bolshevism.

Why would you cast aspersion?

Or a compliment, despite the blue curtain.
pawian 224 | 24,465
12 Jul 2020 #23
That is the way to oppose a totalitarian ideology.

Funny that you talk about opposing totalitarian ideology and at the same time each of your posts is full of totalitarian inclinations.

Me? I was too young to be anything other but a student

Yes, you were too young. But your family were nomenklatura. Simple


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