Poland's PiS party members and crime

Surely someone elected to serve the public should understand that public money is to be used wisely and not for obvious personal gain?

Probably no other Polish political formation has carried out a burglary in broad daylight of such proporotions as when the PO-led governemnt broke into and drained the open retirement fund to patch up its budget. Then they followed up by raising retirement age.

Luckily that band of crooks and scam artists will get swept away in October and the legislative lemons they leave behind will soon be undone by their PiS-led successor cabinet.

Spot on. It would be too optimistic to say that this is the beginning of the end for the PiSuarzy, however we are certainly well beyond the end of the beginning.

A week in politics is a long time. In Poland, a month is a lifetime.

The flat feet are all washed up in Polish poltics. Their backing is down to 19% and dropping. One shouldn't be surprsied if they soon approach the support levels of the also-rans: PSL, Petru, Kukiz and SLD gang.

Hard to know what that has to do with the crime and corruption rife within PiS.

Good that it's being aired publicly.

The allegations being hurled at PiS are a Sunday school picnic compared to the 8 years of scams, scandals, affairs, nepotism and unkept promises scored by the Platfusy.

You mean Poland's most successful government to date?

We can look forward to many more revelations about PiS over the next few months, especially the corruption of some of their members at local authority level.

Nice to see that you consider fraud to be a "Sunday school picnic". It's exactly that "Teraz k***a My" attitude that PiS are notorious for.


Indeed, there's a lot more where that comes from. If even their Presidential candidate indulged in blatant fraud, what hope is there for the rest of the party?

8 years of scams, scandals, affairs, nepotism and unkept promises scored by the dodgy Platformer clique is something no other party can match. Additionally they are masters of PR, propaganda and pulling the wool over the public's eyes. But the Polish nation have finally caught on them (better late than never!) and is poised to deal them a crushing defeat in October.


That is simply a colourful way of saying "now we're up to bat". That kind of lingo BTW is typical of informal PO conversations as witnessed by the secret tapes of Sikorski, Rostowski and other Platformer flunkies. In public they spout pious platitudes without end, in private they sound like low-life drunks, thugs and lumpenproles. Cultural schizophrenia or garden-variety hypocrisy?


If that is how you define scams and unkept promises, then all one can say is: consider the source. You are indeed an Orwellian through and through: Ministry of Truth (manufacturing propaganda and disinformation), scams = success, white is black, perversity is virtue, etc.


The phrase "Nic się nie stało" was attributed to the Tusk clique after every scandal (AmberGold, gambling, uncompleted Euro 2012 motorways, shipyard fiasco, clandestine tapes, cases or oldboy nepotism, the list goes on...)

One has to wonder why Polonius keeps repeatedly going off-topic in this thread.

Anyway, a fun story that I found recently.

natemat.pl/115555,celnik-skazany-za-korupcje-pracuje-w-biurze-pis-dzialal-z-mafia-hazardowa-a-teraz-jest-na-stazu

Basically, a corrupt Customs officer that was convicted of taking 22,000zl in bribes, ended up working in office of a PiS MP last year. The excuse given by the MP was that he didn't know the person's background, which means that the MP failed to do even basic background checks.

Another example of how PiS and corruption goes together hand in hand.

So, returning to the topic - Jon, would you like to find some more examples of PiS and corruption?

There are lots of examples, most of it at a local level. In Slupsk, when they elected a new President, they found that the city's already depleted and mismanaged coffers were being spent on some fairly off things, including honoraria for local PiS party members.

This case is well enough known but very worth reminding people about


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Wow lol

I'd love to lose that much money.

Absolutely.

The party seems rotten to the core, doesn't it?

Indeed, except it's the Platfus coterie that's scam-infested.
Check out mapaafer.pl for details.

In recent years it has been PO members who regard Poland and Polish taxpayers as a sucker cow that can be milked indefinitely.
niewygodne.info.pl/artykul5/02227-Zlodziejskie-praktyki-wladzy-ktore-niszcza-nasz-potencjal.htm

Off-topic again, Polonius.

This thread is about crime committed by members of PiS and their associates.

ecpr.eu/filestore/paperproposal/8f4a9c16-9665-49c6-a8d3-8bf63862c228.pdf

An interesting paper here that discusses political patronage and PiS.


Yet more corruption, and the paper goes on to outline how PiS were even worse than the infamous 2001-2005 SLD government. The article is fully sourced, so perhaps Polonius would like to comment on why the Minister of the Environment needed 11 cabinet advisers.

Agreed, but PO abuses are far more numerous and interesting.

>The views expressed in the quote below belong to the writer of the quote
:P surely not your intention to suggest that the author of the page wrote that woz it jon? Crawford wrote stuff you'd p'raps rather not post perhaps like


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It is funny, that for a party called "Law and Justice", they seem remarkably keen to avoid Duda being questioned over his fraudulent expense claims. Surely if they were genuinely interested in law and justice, they would ask him to waive his immunity.

This is a bit of a smoking gun, and not the first time a PiS politician or one of their parliamentary allies has taken the advantage of immunity.

Another day, another scandal involving PiS and fraudulent expenses.


polska.newsweek.pl/malgorzata-gosiewska-afera-kilometrowka-komorka-przeloty-,artykuly,370773,1.html

Corrupt to the bone.

Interestingly, this is yet another person that was very well connected to the Kaczyński twins. She worked in Lech Kaczyński's Presidential office. So now - we have Duda, Gosiewska and Hofman - all three were very close to the twins, and all three have been involved in fraudulent expense claims. The stench of corruption around PiS grows ever stronger.

Awful isn't it, they just use public finds like their own.
Will they be brought to justice?
No, why?
People shrug their shoulders and say 'that's Poland.'

Indeed, and I notice that the usual suspects are absolutely silent on this. Just shows that they support Poland being robbed, just not by "the other guys".

Ironside? Polonius? Wulkan? Grzegorz? Come on, surely one of you PiS lovers has something to say about yet another person connected to the twins being caught.

Dunno about anybody else, but I'm still waiting for the POO brigade to agree to an investigative commission on the tape scandal. And it's not so important who did the taping but what those recorded bigwigs actually said. People should know what kind of bandits and connivers have been misruling the country for the past 8 years.

Not sure what PO have to do with yet another PiS member and member of Lech Kaczynski's inner circle being discovered to be a fraudster...

Like Sikorski and Nowak?

Merged: Duda pardons Kaminski

So much for Law and Justice, clearly those no longer apply if you have the right friends.


Full article here: thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/229322,President-Duda-pardons-Kaminski

excellent news.i hope they will get to the bottom of his case.and look close to justice system,and "work" of corrupted by PO judges and their politically motivated criminal behavior.

hes case is clear example of political corruption within justice system in Poland.guy was innocent,found innocent by the very same court previously.
good move by Duda...its a statement-time to root out PO made corruption and bring back justice.same with this poor football fan,jailed for 3 years by PO appointed judges,freed recently

I must say i'm dissapointed. I mean my vote for Duda was accually a vote against Komorowski but still...

Looks that way. I wonder how many other morally questionable pardons will appear.

I wonder if they'll bother waiting for the rest of the cases to be finished before issuing the pardons or if The Dear Leader Chairman Kaczynski will just summon Duda for another late-night audience and give him a list of blank pardons that are to be issued.