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Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment?


Marrakesh
2 Sep 2024   #511
Why my wish, darling???

Because you complained that the Germans won't stop doing business with you. Are you drunk and gay by any chance, love?
pawian  222 | 26080
2 Sep 2024   #512
Darling, where did I complain??? I commented with satisfaction that we can hardly manage to satisfy German demand for trade and cooperation. Ha!!!
gay, love

Do you have a crush on me, already, darling??? Sorry, I am taken.

Stop imagining too many things at a time. Your mind might burst under the pressure. hahahaha
Marrakesh
2 Sep 2024   #513
I commented with satisfaction

Excuses, excuses.

Sorry, I am taken.

What's his name?
jon357  72 | 22967
3 Sep 2024   #514
there is nothing to suggest that London had greater trust in the Ukrainian ability to withstand an invasion

There is, which is why the then PM alone supported Ukraine right from the start when other countries' leaders would have been happier if President Zelenskyy gave up and didn't do anything that might affect their dodgy oli/gas deals with the pariah state r*SSia.

And yes, not only is it the only major country in Europe that is fully independent, it's also the only one without a lame duck political leader.

The UK was well-positioned to actually make a difference for Ukraine until 2022.

And did make a difference.

Anyway, 'Nordstream' in both its iterations is long gone and will never be replaced.

BTW, if you want to reply to my posts, don't remove my name from the quote. It is a weird and strangely passive aggressive thing to do to every poster as a matter of course.
Tacitus  2 | 1261
3 Sep 2024   #515
@jon357

which is why the then PM alone supported Ukraine right from the start

But only to a very, very limited degree. The evidence is irrefutable. The UK - like the USA - gave only very limited aid to Ukraine, most of which could also be used in a guerilla war. If London had had greater confidence in the Ukrainian army, they would have supplied them with heavy weapons right away, instead of waiting for 3 more months.

The UK is as you say "independent". They could have supplied Ukraine with tanks, heavy artillery, planes et al even before 2022 with no one being able to veto it. But they did not, most likely because they shared their Western allies scepticism of Ukraine's capabilities. Which is fine. But it is hardly something to brag about.

it's also the only one without a lame duck political leader.

It is certainly nice to see that the UK has finally a respectable PM again.

don't remove my name from the quote.

I dont, they are just like that in posts when I quote them.
jon357  72 | 22967
3 Sep 2024   #516
The evidence is irrefutable

There isn't evidence. The UK PM advised them to stay strong while others didn't.

A lot of bluster there, intended to distract from the groundswell in support for r*SSia within Germany, including its government and military. At least one thing is certain; there will be no more cheap oil/gas deals wtht r*SSia, ever. That boat has sailed.

A 'respectable PM'? We always did. Although I disagree with the politics of those in office between 2010 and 2024, they were certainly all respectable, even Sunak.

I dont, they are just like that in posts when I quote them.

They've been 'just like that' for around a decade and nobody else has that problem.

I don't believe you.
pawian  222 | 26080
26 Dec 2024   #517
Russian oil tanker damaged the cable between Estonia and Finland. Earlier, a Chinese tanker did the same to another connection.

A solution - ban Russian and Chinese ships sail in the Baltic Sea. Simple. If they do, confiscation!!!
pawian  222 | 26080
2 days ago   #518
Ukraine shut down the Russian gas pipe supplying fuel to Slovakia and neighbouring countries. Wise move coz imperial Russians will lose 5 billion $ yearly.
Putin suggested that Russians can supply gas through the Polish connection which is shut down too but can be made operational any moment.
Dear imperial Russians, stop daydreaming. No deals until you:
-withdraw from Ukraine
-pay the reparations for death and destruction
-send your war criminals to the Hague.

Did I forget anything????
Ironside  50 | 12512
1 day ago   #519
Wise move c

Really? So where from Ukraine get fuel now? - from Poland. Are Polish taxpayers going to pay for yet another Ukrainian folly?
pawian  222 | 26080
1 day ago   #520
So where from Ukraine get fuel now?

the closed pipe was only used for transit, not to supply Ukraine.

Are Polish taxpayers going to pay for yet another Ukrainian

Yes, we are coz it is democracy and the coalition decides about Polish politics and policies now. If you don`t like it, go back to emigration in your French Canada. Ha!!!
Ale Ci powiedziałem! Ha!!!
Ironside  50 | 12512
1 day ago   #521
Yes,

tsk tsk reckless and irresponsible with a total disregard for the Polish citizens.
pawian  222 | 26080
1 day ago   #522
with a total disregard for the Polish

No, you are thinking of yourself now aka Plastic Pole who came back after 30 years` emigration while I meant true Poles/Polesses.
Bobko  27 | 2056
1 day ago   #523
the closed pipe was only used for transit, not to supply Ukraine.

That's not true.

Even after half the population left, and the economy stopped working... Ukraine still consumes 19 billion cubic meters of natural gas per year.

There is still a deficit.

At one point Ukraine was our number one customer. As recently as 2005 they consumed more than 70 billion cubic meters a year.

Back then they had one of the largest steel industries in the world, and lots of other large industrial enterprises which still worked.

Not a big loss, however, because the assh0les never paid in full, and instead stole a large part of the shipments.


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Ironside  50 | 12512
1 day ago   #524
yourself now aka Plastic Pole

Chut!
emigration to Canada

La cache!
--
true Poles/Polesses.

Comme c'est triste.
I-S I mean it is sad that you are such an idiot or as some people with class would say Quel imbécile!
pawian  222 | 26080
1 day ago   #525
That's not true.

Of course it is true coz I meant current times, not the past. Go back to Iron`s post, read it carefully, then my reply to him and you will understand what I meant. :):):)

Stop living in the gas past which is prehistory now. :):):)

I mean it is sad that you are

Your sadness is joy for others, remember. :):):)
Ironside  50 | 12512
1 day ago   #526
That's not true

Thank you. I couldn't even bother to correct that ignorant fool.
pawian  222 | 26080
1 day ago   #527
I couldn't even bother

Of course, coz you don`t know who, what or how to correct. You are too low to hold a candle by me, let alone for yourself to show you the right way!!! Ha!!!!
Ironside  50 | 12512
1 day ago   #528
You are

lol! Does that drivel make you feel better?Easing your inferiority complex?
Plank is talking BS about feelings and side issues, no content whatsoever, truly an empty vessel on the wast sea.
pawian  222 | 26080
1 day ago   #529
truly an empty vessel on the wast sea.

Wow!! We had no idea you are able to think so metaphorically. AmaSSing!

I couldn't even bother to correct

You still didn`t correct your earlier comment on correcting me. Or proving you were right.

that drivel

Yes, Iron, stop it and start acting like a mature person at last.
Bobko  27 | 2056
1 day ago   #530
meant current times, not the past

There is still a deficit of around 1 billion cubic meters. It is not very much, and it's possible that Ukraine closes this gap by importing from the West through reverse flows. I have not read enough on this subject to say much.

What should produce a bigger impression on you, is the magnitude of the Ukrainian collapse.

They went from 70+ billion cubic meters to just 19. That is, their economy was big enough at some point that we sold them more energy than we did to Germany.

Now they are trying to make a virtue out of consuming so little, like so many little Greta Thunbergs, but they don't explain to people that their consumption collapsed because their country collapsed.
pawian  222 | 26080
1 day ago   #531
They went from 70+ billion cubic meters to just

Bs. There are dozens of various factors which explain this difference. E.g, in 2005 gas was cheap so nobody was interested in reducing the consumption. In 2023 it was expensive so people and industry used it wisely.
Just one factor.

But you prefered to peddle your Kremlin thesis of "collapse" to us. Besides, who contributed to the "collapse"? Wasn`t it imperial Russians who invaded a peaceful country?

What can I say??

Wypierdalaj stąd, imperial Russian, with your sick manipulative propaganda. When I read your lies, I feel like barfing.
Bobko  27 | 2056
1 day ago   #532
Wypierdalaj

Тебе того же, брат
pawian  222 | 26080
1 day ago   #533
Don`t call me buddy. Never will a decent patriotic Pole be a buddy with an imperial Russian. Simple. I can be a buddy with decent Russians. Right now you are not one.
Bobko  27 | 2056
1 day ago   #534
Never will a decent patriotic Pole be a buddy with an imperial Russian.

Many things, much stranger than this, have happened throughout the history of our race.

In the end - the universe does not give a sh*t who is a Pole and who is a Russian.
pawian  222 | 26080
1 day ago   #535
In the end - the universe does not give a sh*t who is a Pole and who is a Russian

Of course. The Universe or Nature or Goddess or whatever Supreme Being that exists there.

But right now we are in our mini world of the Polish Forum where it matters to us who we deal with here. And we have the full right to express our opinions about it.

Also, we are living in our countries on our continents and it still matters a lot to us which nation is our neighbour and what impact their ideology/politics/attitude have on us.
Having said that, I can only add: I fully reject imperial Russia and its supporters.
pawian  222 | 26080
1 day ago   #536
I fully reject imperial Russia and its supporters.

Simply speaking, wypierdalać!!!


Bobko  27 | 2056
1 day ago   #537
wypierdalać!!!

It's a free country - I sit where I want.

However; bonus points for Boguslaw Linda.


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pawian  222 | 26080
1 day ago   #538
It's a free country - I sit where I want.

Of course it is and you do.

While my duty is to lash at you coz I sucked it with my mother`s milk. Ha! :):):)

Boguslaw Linda.

It isn`t him, now you are posting your own photo!! Amasing!!! :):):)
Ironside  50 | 12512
22 hrs ago   #539
You still

dude you are posting some of the most boring sh't. No wonder you yawn so often. You are so bored out of your mind by your posts that you fall to sleep while typing that crap. That is truly amusing. An achievement of sorts that belongs solely to you.
pawian  222 | 26080
21 hrs ago   #540
amusing

Amasing!


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