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Nazi gold train 'found in Poland'


delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
15 Dec 2015 #61
But a good one...

Smart money now is it being a very sophisticated publicity stunt by Wałbrzych.
Ziemowit 13 | 4,311
13 Jul 2016 #62
Would you really want to see the Polish government keeping items that belong to someone else.

of course, in case there is something valuable, not only as per international laws but also as per mere morality, Poland cannot keep belongings stolen from people

Several months have passed, but the golden train - to everyone's surprise - hasn't been driven out of this bloody tunnel yet. Thus, Poland cannot keep the belongings stolen from people. Thus, items that belong to someone else are safely kept under the earth all the time. As a result, no one is going to get richer, neither Poland nor anyone else.

The only consolation in these very sad circumstances is to read this sentence by InPolska again:

Personally I would not want to wear a ring or a necklace or whatever stolen from someone exterminated simply because Jewish (or anything else). Sorry, I have morals.

No necklaces, no rings, sorry. We have morals, but we have no items. Sorry.
polishinvestor 1 | 362
13 Jul 2016 #63
The majority of "treasures" hidden during the war have already been stealthly removed. Regarding zloty pociag, I regularly drive by there and there were a lot of people at the time, tourism certainly got boosted, but Id say ksiaz and the palmiarnia are a pretty big draw anyway during the nicer parts of the year.
OP jon357 69 | 19,408
13 Jul 2016 #64
Regarding zloty pociag,

A great story though, even if it was a tourist scam. Everybody likes lost treasure. Today, the golden train, tomorrow the Amber Room, next JK's girlfriends...

Thus, Poland cannot keep the belongings stolen from people.

Of course all Jewish-owned houses and apartments were returned to the owners' heirs, weren't they...
Reibert
3 Sep 2016 #65
Merged: Polish Golden Train

Hi guys

Are there any news about Nazi train with gold, hidden somewhere in Poland? Government started excavation 2 weeks ago.
984562
3 Sep 2016 #66
Are you planning on making a claim on your share soon?
Chemikiem
3 Sep 2016 #67
Are there any news about Nazi train with gold,

Sadly, although it would have been great if they had found it, the search is all over:-

independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nazi-gold-train-update-dig-poland-latest-news-walbrzych-hitler-wwii-mystery-search-a7209811.html
Reibert
4 Sep 2016 #68
Thank Chemikiem, let's hope that the train exist, and when they will find it, we will hear a word.
Chemikiem
2 Jun 2020 #69
Interesting news! According to the diary of an SS officer, the location of 28 tonnes of Nazi-era gold is said to be 60 metres below ground at the bottom of a disused well in the grounds of Hochberg Palace in Roztoka, near Wałbrzych.

The diary details 11 locations in total across Silesia and Opole where valuables such as gold, religious artefacts and art were stored from Germany, Poland, France, Belgium and Russia.

More in this article:

thefirstnews.com/article/could-16th-century-palace-be-hiding-28-tons-of-nazi-gold-ss-diary-reveals-palace-is-one-of-five-secret-location-12971
Ziemowit 13 | 4,311
2 Jun 2020 #70
So the gold rush in Poland will begin anew! America had its gold rush in the Wild West, and now it's going to be Poland's Wild Silesia. And yet I prefer to spend my summer holiday sunbathing at Kołobrzeg rather than searching for gold in Silesia.

I wonder how precise his locations are.
Chemikiem
2 Jun 2020 #71
So the gold rush in Poland will begin anew!

Well I did think here we go again! Would be amazing if the gold is found though, I do love a good treasure hunt!

I wonder how precise his locations are.

Who knows but I'm sure it's being looked into.
OP jon357 69 | 19,408
2 Jun 2020 #72
28 tonnes of Nazi-era gold

Amazing if they find something though it could of course be another wild goose chase.

I did read a book a while ago about the Nazi's gold which said that around 99% of it had been located either where it was hidden officially or where a couple of hordes had been secreted in Bavaria, and the remaining 1% was probably stolen by a named GI who became suddenly and unaccountably rich.

The book of course could be wrong. Everybody likes a treasure hunt.
kaprys 3 | 2,286
2 Jun 2020 #73
Still a chance to find 'Portret młodzieńca'.
After all, I'm pretty sure it's kept in the train in right conditions.
And another way to promote the region.
Ziemowit 13 | 4,311
3 Jun 2020 #74
chance to find 'Portret młodzieńca'

You are obsessed with this painting, Kaprys, aren't you?
kaprys 3 | 2,286
3 Jun 2020 #75
@Ziemowit
Nah, I remember about it mostly when someone mentions hidden Nazi trains. The thought that they may contain artwork is more appealing to me than just mere gold.
Chemikiem
5 Jun 2020 #76
it could of course be another wild goose chase.

I'm sure it will probably turn out to be just that, but one can live in hope.

Still a chance to find 'Portret młodzieńca'.

I had not heard of this painting before, but there are many missing paintings looted from museums i think, and of course, property stolen from people at the time. I always wonder what the point is in keeping something that can never be displayed and has to be hidden away. Of course, if any artwork is recovered, it may not be in the best of condition either. I agree with you though, to find missing works of art would be far more exciting than gold.
Ziemowit 13 | 4,311
5 Jun 2020 #77
turn out to be just that, but one can live in hope

I wonder if it catches as much attention of the Daily Mail as it did in the previous case of the "gold train".
OP jon357 69 | 19,408
5 Jun 2020 #78
attention of the Daily Mail

They've got enough column inches right now from coronavirus, protests and Maddie McCann.

If this turns out to be fruitful, there'll be coverage everywhere.
Chemikiem
6 Jun 2020 #79
I wonder if it catches as much attention of the Daily Mail

Yep, it's reported in there too!

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8361037/28-tonnes-Nazi-gold-hidden-palace-Poland.html

f this turns out to be fruitful, there'll be coverage everywhere.

And people no doubt.
pawian 187 | 17,485
23 Jun 2020 #80
Treasure news is always good news.

There is also another hunt in the region - in the Owl Mountains.

tvn24.pl/wroclaw/gory-sowie-rozkopana-lesna-skrytka-mogly-byc-tam-ukryte-kosztownosci-z-palacu-schloss-cammerau-4614981
johnny reb 32 | 6,762
12 May 2022 #81
There is also another hunt in the region -

I just found this article today.

Treasure hunters think they've found $245,000,000 in Nazi gold under SS brothel
A team of treasure hunters believe they've found a huge stash of looted gold and valuables underneath a palace used as a brothel by Hitler's SS.

They have uncovered a mysterious metal canister buried 10ft below the surface in the village of Minkowskie in southern Poland.
It is thought to contain the so-called 'Gold of Breslau', which went missing from police headquarters from what is now the Polish city of Wrocław


I wonder who will lay claim to it ?
OP jon357 69 | 19,408
12 May 2022 #82
The place is called Minkowski and it wasn't a brothel.

Currently the excavations are being made safe by the army: it will be some time before the metal barrel is opened. There are eleven such sites currently being excavated.
johnny reb 32 | 6,762
12 May 2022 #83
The place is called Minkowski

Actually not joun as I am more Polish than you ever will be.
Minkowskie [minˈkɔfskʲɛ] (German: Seydlitzruh) is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Namysłów, within Namysłów County, Opole Voivodeship, in south-western Poland.

We must stay On-Topic though joun.
Ziemowit 13 | 4,311
12 May 2022 #84
Actually not joun as I am more Polish than you ever will be.

Actually you are both right. The name of this village was Minkovsky till the year 1937 when the German Nazi administration changed it - along with hundreds of other names in Silesia which bore names that sounded too Slavic - to Seydlitzruh. Then in 1945 when Silesia became Polish again, the village regained its Slavic name in the slightly changed form of Minkowskie (this because there is neither 'v' in the Polish alphabet, nor the ending -sky).
OP jon357 69 | 19,408
12 May 2022 #85
Iam more Polish than you ever will be.

No you aren't.

As mentioned, the Śląskie Pomost are investigating 11 sites. Minkowski is not, by the way, the site of a brothel. It is a private house. Nor are their investigations anything new. They are based on a letter which has been published in full and comes from a dubious source.
Alien 7 | 1,015
14 May 2022 #87
El nie do rado.
johnny reb 32 | 6,762
14 May 2022 #88
Actually you are both right.

Thank you for straightening him out Ziemowit.

No you aren't.

Oh but I am joun, you are British through and through and so were your parents.

Minkowski is not, by the way, the site of a brothel.

Really, I was sure that I read it was the site of an abandoned brothel/palace in Minkowskie that Hitler and his SS used as a brothel.

Here is my source that says it was so maybe you could post your source saying it wasn't.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10804367/Treasure-hunters-seeking-Nazi-gold-worth-200MILLION-say-discovered-5ft-metal-canister-buried.html
OP jon357 69 | 19,408
14 May 2022 #89
that Hitler and his SS used as a brothel.

Did Hitler 'use brothels' very often? Talk about a famous customer. I wonder what Eva Braun had to say about the matter.

There are parallels here to Stormy Daniel's in more ways than one. As you were told however, it wasn't a brothel. It was certainly used for R&R however a cat house it wasn't, despite the tabloid smut you read...

And as you were also told, it is one of eleven sites being looked at by 'Śląskie Pomost', Albert on The Basia of a very questionable source. Personally I hope they find something interesting and that if there is art hidden there it isn't damaged.

If the famed Amber Room is there, it will just be rattling bits of dried up amber, however a painting stored carefully might be retrievable. Gold does last of course, however almost all was accounted for. Silver is a possibility; much was looted from Hungary.

Oh but I am

Oh, but you're not...

You are however trolling.
OP jon357 69 | 19,408
14 May 2022 #90
There's quite a lot of activity at the site right now, and of course it will be a while before the cannister is opened, should it be deemed worth opening and safe to do so. The site is very well guarded to protect it from thieves.

There's a good article here from a local site which discusses the excavation and the drilling process.
radio.opole.pl/100,576562,odwierty-wskazaly-niezidentyfikowany-obiekt-meta


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