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As a Time Capsule From The Holocaust Was Found In Zlocieniec, Poland


Nickidewbear 23 | 583
20 Sep 2016 #1
My question is why Northeastern Poland hardly gets highlighted. As far as I know, many time capsules and other findings could be in Lipsk, Augustów, Krasnopol, Suwałlki, Boćki, Kaletnik, and even places in which one would not expect findings-such as Wigry and Bossę, where Anusim were and as I should know.
Chemikiem 6 | 2,075
20 Sep 2016 #2
many time capsules and other findings

It's possible, but the time capsule recently found had been known about, archaeologists just couldn't access it before.
I doubt anyone is going to invest time and money randomly digging up areas of Poland in the hope of finding something with no concrete information.

Here is an article about the time capsule:-

time.com/4501035/nazi-time-capsule-poland-germany
OP Nickidewbear 23 | 583
21 Sep 2016 #3
If they inquire, they will find. BTW, they could start working on restoring the Cmentarz Żydowski w Lipsku .
peterweg 36 | 2,317
21 Sep 2016 #4
Who is they? Thought about doing it yourself?
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,720
21 Sep 2016 #5
oh no, not the dreaded 'they'!
OP Nickidewbear 23 | 583
14 Oct 2016 #6
Who is they? Thought about doing it yourself?

Get me a plane ticket to Poland, a passport, a basic Polish phrasebook, etc., and I will.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,720
14 Oct 2016 #7
I think you would have to get those things for yourself
jon357 63 | 14,614
14 Oct 2016 #8
You'd also need a spade to dig with, permission from tens of thousands of landowners and a hell of a lot of time to dig up an entire section of the country.
jon357 63 | 14,614
14 Oct 2016 #9
Seriously Nicki, during WW2, Poles, especially those of the Jewish faith had many other things to think about than making time capsules.

If however you are interested in this, read about the Warsaw Ghetto archives. Just before the liquidation of the ghetto, the great Polish historian, Emmanuel Ringblum, sealed some of their records, archives, wills, photos, people's diaries etc in twelve metal containers, some of them milk canisters. They buried these in three deep holes, anticipating the destruction of that part of town. Nobody who knew the precise locations survived, however one of the sites was found fairly quickly afterwards, one a little while after that and the third remains to find. It is probably buried under the grounds of the Chinese Embassy on ul. Miodowa however the Chinese have not permitted further excavations.

The part of the archive that was found, called the Oneg Shabbat archive is fascinating and gives a valuable picture of pre-war Warsaw life.
OP Nickidewbear 23 | 583
14 Oct 2016 #10
I see that my point is entirely being missed. Many Jewish and other organizations have no problem focusing on Jewish and other history in cities such Warszawa, Krakow, Łódź, Radom, Wrocław, Poznań, and other cities and their vicinities; yet, Suwałki, Krasnopol, Białystok, Lipsk, and similar cities and their vicinities seem to be frequent skipovers.
jon357 63 | 14,614
14 Oct 2016 #11
Your point, Nicki, isn't being missed. What you yourself have missed is that there's a certain difference between Warsaw, Łódż, Krakow on the one hand and Krasnopol, Lipsk, Boćki on the other. Think of the difference between Jersey City and a field in north west Idaho.
Lyzko 25 | 7,145
14 Oct 2016 #12
Apropos, jon, when I mentioned once to an acquaintance from Gdańsk that I knew a Polish woman from Przemyśl, the former quipped, "Oh, I thought you said she was from Poland!":-)

Guess provincial snobbery and the like cuts many ways.
jon357 63 | 14,614
14 Oct 2016 #13
Indeed. Przemysl is a long way from Gdansk. Re. Nicki's comments, it's a pretty massive difference between a sparsely populated corner of north east Europe and a big industrial region.
Lyzko 25 | 7,145
15 Oct 2016 #14
Compare New York with Portland, Oregon, Istanbul to the wilds of Anatolia, Moscow or Ektkaterinenburg and Irkutsk etc...
jon357 63 | 14,614
15 Oct 2016 #16
Quite. Seriously, those are smaller towns which suffered badly in the war. There are no 'time capsules' (people were dragged from their homes with no time to pack a toothbrush, never mind make a time capsule) and there are sadly few traces of the region's Jewish past.


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