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The Leningrad Amber room finally found in Poland?


jon357 63 | 14,121
22 Apr 2016  #1
It could be another false alarm like the 'gold train' or a stunt by PiS to line someone's pocket but still interesting. It would be great if they find it although since Amber dries out with time it would probably be in very poor condition.

- A museum in Poland believes it has discovered the legendary Amber Room
- The room, worth £250million, was looted when the Nazis invaded Russia
- Exactly where it was taken still remains one of the war's greatest mysteries
- Museum officials claim to have used geo-radar to uncover a hidden bunker
- They believe it could contain Amber Room treasure and will start digging

But now, bosses at the Mamerki museum near Wegorzewo, north east Poland, say it may have been hidden behind a false wall that was sealed shut inside an old wartime bunker - after finding an unknown room measuring 6.5ft wide and 10ft long using geo-radar.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3552241/Is-60-year-hunt-missing-250million-Amber-Room-FINALLY-New-images-Nazi-looted-treasure-hidden-sealed-wall-secret-room-underground-bunker-Poland.html
Ziemowit 12 | 3,401
22 Apr 2016  #2
The Daily Maily was very excited about the "golden train", now that they've found another "golden ****" to be excited about, we may expect the outcome of this could be equally fruitful.
OP jon357 63 | 14,121
22 Apr 2016  #3
Anybody's guess, but an interesting idea nonetheless...
TheOther 5 | 3,643
22 Apr 2016  #4
Doubt it because pieces of the Amber Room showed up in Germany a few years ago.
OP jon357 63 | 14,121
23 Apr 2016  #5
Really? That's new to me. Were they soldiers' souvenirs? I know some of the American took souvenirs and one dirt-poor redneck became unaccountably rich after going for a swim in the lake at Garmisch-Partenkirchen; all it took was a few blocks of gold, part of the 3% or whatever that was never traced - there's quite a good book about it.

Until recently the most plausible theory about the Amber room is that it didn't survive the Soviet bombardment of Konigsberg, where it was stored.

And if it did, it would basically just be a curiosity now; most of the pieces were as dry as bone and falling off the wall even before they were removed from the Catherine Palace.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
23 Apr 2016  #6
Until recently the most plausible theory about the Amber room is that it didn't survive the Soviet bombardment of Konigsberg, where it was stored.

Didn't the RAF also do a number on the castle as well?
OP jon357 63 | 14,121
23 Apr 2016  #7
Possibly - towards the end of the war it might have been within range.

One of the things that the "oo they didn't help us at all in 1939" brigade in Poland conveniently forget is that it was only much later in the war that there were the right sort of planes with sufficient range to reach here. In the 1930s passenger planes from Croydon Aerodrome to Pole Mokotowskie in Warsaw (yes, there was a scheduled service) had to refuel on the way.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
23 Apr 2016  #8
One of the things that the "oo they didn't help us at all in 1939" brigade in Poland conveniently forget is that it was only much later in the war that there were the right sort of planes with sufficient range to reach here.

That lot are just corrupted by Communist propaganda. The whole "Western betrayal" thing was one of the finer pieces of Polish/Czechoslovak propaganda, wasn't it?

More to the point, why would anyone want to help them after their disgusting annexation of Czechoslovakia the year before?
TheOther 5 | 3,643
23 Apr 2016  #9
Really? That's new to me. Were they soldiers' souvenirs?

Don't know. A mosaic and a chest showed up in the north German city of Bremen in 1997 and were returned to Russia in 2000:

articles.latimes.com/2000/apr/30/news/mn-25038
OP jon357 63 | 14,121
23 Apr 2016  #10
A mosaic and a chest showed up

Interesting to trace (as historians would want to) the journey of those pieces. If this bunker thing isn't just a museum's attempt to boost their visitor numbers we may soon know more.

and were returned to Russia in 2000:

That bit's a shame, given the Russians' reluctance to return plundered artifacts.


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