"It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland)

BB,Germans are not hated and despised everywhere.
Many countries don't like Germans.....get over it.
Many don't like Brits and especially The English.....I don't let that bother me.....
But you need to accept the fact that these people don't like you.....it is important.

That makes just no sense, sorry!

BB,why does it make no sense?
Because you don't want to believe it is true?
If you understand French or especially Alsatian patois,take a trip to Alsace......enjoy the countryside,food and beer,but listen to the peoples comments about you....a German.....

Maybe you are hanging out with the wrong crowd? Just because one right wing bozo hates Merkel doesn't mean that all Brits dislike each and every German. Same goes for the Poms. Just because some Aussies can't stand your guts doesn't mean that the whole country hates the U.K.. 99% of all people get along just fine. It's always the same group of simpletons that live in the past and cultivate the old animosities. Eff them.

Because some germans refuse to believe that the migrants came to germany for the handouts, not the scenery, beer or because they genuinely like the country and its people. Even despite being gracious hosts, the new comers still go about raping and pillaging, leaving their garbage everywhere and making demands that germany adapts to them. Then they get further egged on by merkel with statements like we can do this, islam belongs in germany and allowing no go zones and saudi/turkish funded mega mosques to sprout up like mushrooms on sh1t.

Rich Mazur, with such an eloquency you should be a diplomat :-)

Actually, this process has been already put in motion.

dw.com/en/poland-greece-team-up-on-nazi-era-war-reparations-demands/a-45836168

@Dirk

I hate all Germans because ... Adolf. I hate all Brits because ... British Empire. I hate all Americans because ... Trump. That's the stupid simplistic world view I was talking about. Neanderthals were more sophisticated.

I'm not sure what you are after?

That some people hate other people just because they have a certain skin pigmentation, a certain religion, a certain nationality? Or just because?

What is there to believe?

What do you want from me?

And when you really want to convince someone it's better to not try it on the base of "I can't show you any proof but it is so because I tell you so, believe me!"...that really sucks!

PS: I googled Alsace and Germany and this popped up:



....or this:


Heh:) The best of two worlds! :)

But I couldn't find any of the hate you seem to know so much of!

Again, it doesnt change the fact that merkels migrants came for the handouts, not because they love germany. Neither does it change the.fact that migrants are according to DW 92% responsible for the increase in violent crime, nor does it change that basically all the recent terror attacks were committed by non german foreigners, nor does it change that 75% of migrants are unemployed and expected to be for 5+ years.

In germany now 42% of children under 6 arent german. In just a few generations germans will be a minority in their own country. All thanks to Merkel and the leftists who are keen on destroying national identity, destroying german culture and forcing a multikulti utopia upon german citizens and forcing them to pay for the burden merkel invited in and told everyone we can do this. Well that's why today she and her coalition are less popular than ever and more and more people are voting for parties like afd. Theyre not happy with rhe way merkel and co transformed the country for worse.

Diversity macht frei....

Somehow it's hard to believe that someone like Spike cries at night because of the loss of german culture and identity...:)

Oh, but they love Mama Merkel and the fact that she's got such a deep pockets and is willing to share.



@Bratwurst Boy
Stop being so obsessed with me, that's not healthy. Better take an overtime cause those "refugees" will cost you a lot of dough

They dont need to cry. Instead they vote, organize, etc. Chemnitz and afds meteoric sudden rise are good examples of that. Germans want to feel like theyre living in Germany, not Pakistan or Morocco or Turkey. Merkel and the leftist eurocrats pushed and pushed multiculturalism and islamicisation of europe, obviously those that don't want that were going to push back eventually.

Although i fear its too late... 42% of kids in germany arent german. In 10 20 years that number will increase to 60% 80% etc. And as the older Germans die out, germany will be germanistan. Atleast poland doesnt share such a fate...

Doesn't quite fit your "Everybody hates Germany" - theory, heh:)


And you want money from them Germans before these darkies get it, right?

Man, what a moment to be proud of Poland!


I don't think the number was much higher at any time in history...just think about Berlin or the whole "Ruhrpott"...half the citizens there have polish roots...

Most of these non-german children have roots in other european countries...these are by far the biggest number of immigrants. There must be millions of them by now.

Another reason why it is so useless to hold grudge against Germans because of WWII...to many of of your own folks live and work here happily by now...it's abit like self-hate! :)

Better us than them. Atleast we have a legit claim...

Im simply saying if merkel is tossing money at everywhere - the greeks, the eu, Africa, israel, the migrants majority of whom arent interested in working we should get some too.

What she has deep in not "pocket". The deep pocket belongs to the white German taxpayers who still too afraid to say no.

Okay...another question:

There is this darkie family knocking on a german door...mama, papa, fifteen kids....hungry, only the clothes on their bodies....some "stupid" german Softies want to give them food and shelter and some money to survive the next days.

Will you as a Pole really come running to take the money away from them, out of their hands, telling them you deserve it more?

Would you?

@Rich Mazur

Its not tgat theyre scared to say no, its that merkel and the eurocrats are out of touch with european citizens and have stolen their voice. Even with all of the polish hungarian etc government faults, atleast they generally listen to what the people want. And poles def dont want a deluge of third worlders and our government obliged. It even went as far as making a video showing the problems that the migrants are causing and how vast majority are economic migrants, not refugees. Youtube repeatedly bans it, disables comments, etc. They consider pointing out facts that are against a multikulti vision and forced islamisation of europe to be hate speech.


Of course. So theyre cold and hungry big deal. Theyre still alive and no one's gonna kill them. That cant be said for the millions germany killed.

Id also throw the softie german family in jail for assisting illegal immigration, just like hungary has now passed.

@Spike,
Frankly speaking, neither "offer" sounds that great. One is merely the evil of the two lessers:-)
Germany can never live down her role in both the instigation of two world wars within a space of just twenty years of each other, as well as the near systematic annihilation of a people from within their very midst. The latter is something which cannot be squared, either with one's own conscience (something of which Hitler and the Nazis roundly disapproved!) or especially, The Almighty, I don't care how fine their engineering, scientific accomplishments, proverbial cleanliness, or great contributions to the arts.

Because a people are cultured, doesn't have to mean they are necessarily enlightened.
Read a history some years back entitled "Dark Continent", and, ahemmm, they weren't talking about Africa, folks.

When I hear you Lyzko I wonder why so many people want to become Germans, eager for the german passport, german citizenship. So burdened with this history.

It seems they just don't care...

What do you say to the Pole with german citizenship, who lives and works in Germany, who raises his children here...

He is Germany too...where do you draw the line...do you draw a line at all?

...but the Germans born after 1930 can tell us to go to hell just as quickly as I would if some black a-hole told me that I need to apologize and pay for slavery. Different times. Same concept.

In their demands for compensation, does Poland include the worth of the land that used to be Germany? Or is it treated as a freebie from the Allies and is off the table?

MONEY!!!!


He's a shining example to the million third worlders who have no intention to work, contribute and assimilate. If germany followed Denmark's example and cut the handouts to non citizens theyd scatter elsewhere like rats. Thats exactly what happened immediately after denmark cut its welfare payouts. Further evidence that the country, society, language culture etc do not matter to the third world migrants - only the monetary value of the handouts.

I don't believe you!

You are just playing the tough bastard...in truth you would cuddle and snuggle and give them your last shirt, admit it! :)

You big 'ol softie you!

I'm not saying the blandishments for any Third-World or casual foreigner from a less developed economy to join the ranks of German achievement aren't tempting indeed.

If my wife wanted to move over to Germany, both of us knowing the language (I as a second mother tongue), we'd both go in a shot.

The fact is though that no matter how hard Germany earnestly tries to atone for the sins of the fathers, there's plenty of historical amnesia going around to convince the gullible, if willing, from as far away as Japan, that Germany = great food, high tech wonders, spotless streets, non-stop bustling excitement, and a feeling of being at the epicenter of the world today.

They're certainly welcome to their perceptions, I'm welcome to mine.

Myopia however can sometimes be catching, as in the by now trite wisdom "How quickly they forget"!
:-)

We have had a net immigration of 100k from Poland for almost a decade by now. Polish people are already the second largest group of foreigners in Germany. Many of those will stay in Germany with their children.

....and will hopefully help Germany to become Weltmeister again!

PODOLSKI! KLOSE! :):):)

No bc no one helped me of my family when we were poor. We had to work for it just like countless of other immigrants who came for opportunities for work - not handouts. There were no welfare offices near ellis island when hordes of migrants came. Thats why america was so great. Ever since welfare was introduced and government handouts increased the labor participation rate has declined and continues to decline every year. Theres no reason why the migrants cant work just like the countlesd poles in the west. Im all for helping people but whenever you keep giving handouts ad infinitum or people expect and even demand handouts youre only creating a cycle of dependency.

Furthermore, theres been numerous cases where a family invited a migrant into their homes and the migrant ended up robbing and even raping a family member.

...dating of course as far back as the late 18th century, when Poles migrated to Germany to work in the mines around the Ruhr Valley, later "Kohlenpott"!

The names, Krawitz, Wapniewski, Wierzbicki etc. bear ample proof of strong Polish roots in the area.

As you might also have heard, the city of Bottrop had such a large population of Polish descent, it was jokingly "renamed" B O T T R O P K I

lol

Part of my family has precisemy this history.

That's why I mentioned it, Tacitus:-)