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"It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland)

Slavictor 6 | 193
30 Mar 2018 #1
Feminist Rebecca Sommer was completely wrong about Islam. She helped Islamicize Germany yet Sommers has admitted that her work has done irreparable damage to the country, damage that will likely increase in extent, and now she wants to retire elsewhere - supposedly, Poland.

the feminist goes on to say:

..."I thought their medieval view was going to change with time...but after having seen these situations occur repeatedly and observing what was happening around me, as a volunteer, I have had to recognise that the Muslim refugees have grown up with values that are totally different, they have undergone brainwashing from childhood on and are indoctrinated by Islam and absolutely do not intend to adopt our values. Worse, they regard we infidels with disdain and arrogance."

OUR values? To assume hers is shared with many of the rational thinking variety is a grave error. But, it's clear she is used to making errors in judgement.

read on:

(note the comments on that page)

Simply, she should not only be denied entry to Poland (if her intent was to move there), but be required to remain in Germany and wallow in the toxic wasteland she helped create. That's being responsible for actions taken. Perhaps she'll eventually learn to appreciate diversity and cultural enrichment, as one of four or five wives to someone.

So, Poles. Keep it up with the Nationalism. This Feminists' testimony is all you need. Learn from your German neighbours next door on how to keep house and how not to. And, take the time to examine the culprits behind the Muslim invasion of Europe.

hint: they are not Muslim.
StStephen88 - | 1
30 Mar 2018 #2
Here here. I'm British and over the long term seriously considering a new life in Eastern Europe one day. I'd never go anywhere I wasn't I came to this forum to learn. It weighs heavy on my heart to leave England ...but our nation is not only in big trouble due to these issues, property and land are barely affordable...

We'll see what happens..
Joker 3 | 2,453
31 Mar 2018 #3
It's a crying shame how the liberals were able to destroy Europe thru Political Correctness and their multicultural agenda. It certinally is a failed and deadly social experiment. These terrorist/refugees refuse to assimilate, as we all can witness by observing Sweden, Londonistan, Germany and France.

And all these countries fell without a single shot being fired? Talk about having "no guts" or standing up for what you believe in. They caved into the PC ideology like spineless jellyfish.

It weighs heavy on my heart to leave England ...but our nation is not only in big trouble

Its time to stand up and fight for your countries, not run away! Perhaps, this is the problem to begin with??
cms neuf 1 | 1,752
31 Mar 2018 #4
The original link is fake news. It even says it is fake news in the link.

Stephen you are welcome here better get your skates on - after Brexit you won't be able to move here without a work permit. You won't get a work permit without a marketable skill, an invitation from an employer and realistically that means speaking good Polish. If there is a transition signed then that gives you a bit more time but if not then you have until next March.
OP Slavictor 6 | 193
31 Mar 2018 #5
It says that her stating she wanted to retire to Poland was incorrect, not the rest of what she said. I stated this clearly in the original post: "supposedly, Poland" and "if her intent was to move there"
Crow 160 | 9,098
31 Mar 2018 #6
Germany is severely punished by the Svetovid.
cms neuf 1 | 1,752
31 Mar 2018 #7
The rest of what you said was a rant about how she should stay in Germany. In fact she is still working at the migrant center and she has no intention to emigrate.

Which makes your whole thread off-topic.

However, to simplify life can't we just have one thread about Moslems in Sweden, Germany, Netherlands or any other richer country - it's got nothing t do with Poland and you and Dirk spamming the board with these articles, half of which are fake and the other half creatively worded is really not worth so many different threads.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,580
31 Mar 2018 #8
So, Poles. Keep it up with the Nationalism

Oh we will = ) Poland isn't cucked - that's the difference. The vast majority of Poles don't want neckbeards and ninjas prowling their streets, groping women, leeching off our countrymens' hard earned tax revenue, and then telling people that the crosses on our churches offends them. That's why Poland hasn't had a SINGLE Islamic terror attack. Meanwhile, France, Germany, Sweden, etc. are drowning in no-go zones. They are being devoured by their own liberalism and viewing life through pink glasses.

half of which are fake

Even German uni's admit that migrants are the ones driving the rapes, murders, etc. - not native Europeans. Not to mention Merkel saying no go's are a reality and should be called by their name..

Like with alcoholism, admitting there's a problem is the first step. Now Germans must deal with the problem. I propose reestablishing camps and deporting every bogus migrant who is leeching more off the society than contributing. This can be accomplished via a simple formula - how much taxes have they paid, how much taxes have been spent providing for them. If their contribution exceeds the benefits they receive - they can stay. If not, back to afghanistan, iraq, somalia, sudan, or whatever 3rd world sh1thole they came from.
jon357 74 | 22,469
31 Mar 2018 #9
The original link is fake news

I don't think the truth or reality matter to some.

Meanwhile, France, Germany, Sweden, etc. are drowning in no-go zones.

Even the fool Trump apologised for that lie.

Do you propose putting drunk drivers or people caught in cars with 'drug paraphanalia' in them...
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,580
1 Apr 2018 #10
Even the fool Trump apologised for that lie.

So when is Merkel going to apologize for admitting the reality of no-go zones? So you still believe there's no such thing as a 'no go zone' despite arguably the most leftist politician in the EU admitting their existence. I dont know if it's delusion, stupidity, or simply preferring to not admit the truth. That's just like the commies did during Chernobyl - oh nothing to see here... go about your day...

Do you propose putting drunk drivers or people caught in cars with 'drug paraphanalia' in them...

Nah just commie fags and freeloading migrants

In an interview Monday with German broadcaster n-tv, Merkel said she favors a zero tolerance policy on crime and that includes preventing no-go areas, "that's areas where nobody dares to go."

She added: "There are such areas and one has to call them by their name and do something about them."

Dirk diggler 10 | 4,580
1 Apr 2018 #11
She said that people have a right to feel safe when they meet in public places. When asked to clarify, she specified that she was talking about no-go zones.

"It means for example that there cannot be any no-go areas, that there cannot be areas where no-one dares to go but there are such places," she said. "One has to call them by name and do something about it."

No-go zones are primarily Muslim areas in some European countries where civil law has broken down and been, at least in part, supplanted by Sharia law, and where civil authorities often fear to tread. As French intellectual Christian de Moliner put it last year, referencing his nation, they are "territories [that] are outside the control of the Republic," where the "police can come only in force and for limited durations."

The significance of Merkel's admission cannot be overstated. As Fox put it, "Despite evidence of the existence of [the] areas in Western countries, European leaders and left-wing media commentators have long denied, and sometimes even mocked, those who claim that no-go zones exist."

Well, that ended. No one is fooled by the problems that have been caused by multiculturalism and an open border policy - skyrocketing rapes, grenade attacks, mass gropes during NYE parties, the creation of women only zones for parties, concerts, etc. (in the cradle of feminism of all places - oh the irony rofl) so they aren't groped/raped, more billions being spent on migrants than on education, etc. Poland and Poles rejected all this right away. Thats why Poland, Hungary, etc don't have the rapes, the nonstop state of emergency, the constant rioting and arsons, the grenade/knife attacks and shootings that Germany, France, and Sweden do.
Crow 160 | 9,098
1 Apr 2018 #12
New way to accelerate multiculturalism. New way is already founded:

Muslim Migrants Converting To Christianity To Get Asylum (HBO)

Imagine this happening in Poland. Then, you shall remind yourself of Svetovid. But would that be too late?
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,580
1 Apr 2018 #13
Migrants don't come to Poland for free handouts - if they come it's to work and/or study. No generous welfare system = no freeloaders. If only Germany and Sweden followed such logic. Denmark did and immediately after they drastically cut their welfare payments thousands of freeloading migrants immediately scurried like cockroaches after lights get turned on to Sweden. Further proof that the vast majority of these people are not asylum seekers but economic migrants seeking free stuff. A real asylum seeker doesn't care where he or she ends up as long as it's safe - that's why you had Poles literally walking from Siberia to Iran under Stalin's time.
Crow 160 | 9,098
1 Apr 2018 #14
Poland refusing Muslim migrants, primarily. Catholic Church will convert Muslims to Catholicism and they would be then protected by the Pope. How can Poland then refuse to accept them? Millions of Catholic Semites who seek refuge in Poland? Now way. Poland will accept them.

But, if Poles, side by side with Catholicism preserved their pre-Christian custom such is SLAVA, same as Serbians did, they would have better chance to avoid this trap.

Jagilonian Kings wanted to learn more from Serbs. But, Pope didn`t give them. Russians also didn`t learn enough from us.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,580
1 Apr 2018 #15
Poles accept Christian asylum seekers and give preference to them. So yes, perhaps there are a few that exercised taqiya and lied about their faith - as lying (taqiya) is totally acceptable in Islam if its to save your ass. However, the fact that such people actually want to go to Poland and stay there doesn't concern me - that means they know the welfare system is nonexistent and they'll have to work if they want to eat and have housing. When PO traitors allowed Muslims to come in the majority almost immediately left for Germany anyway. The ones that stayed settled in and are working and assimilating - including a Christian Iraqi family that works for LOT.
Crow 160 | 9,098
1 Apr 2018 #16
Just wait. Who holds Poland? Vatican, NATO and EU. Don`t worry. They will found way to distribute new Christians to Poland. They will found way.

Then, you remind yourself that it was Serbian on Polish forums who was first to tell you what would happen to Poland. We Serbs knows how it function. For us, Romans were only that what they were. Western or Eastern, all the same. We had to protect our spiritual life from their influences.

Yes, to Christ but, Svetovid had to remain. It was our condition. Oh, how they hate us for that.
jon357 74 | 22,469
1 Apr 2018 #17
a rant

Basically that's all they can do. Reality isn't on their side and they know that whatever they say, whatever they do, will not make the slightest bit of difference. It's the seething anger of online impotence. Nothing more.

Fortunate for them, really, since if the type of society they espouse actually happened, they would be among the first victims.
peterweg 37 | 2,309
1 Apr 2018 #18
So this forum has descended into a Russian and an American posting boring racist rubish while a few other people slag them of for being twats.

What fun.
cms neuf 1 | 1,752
1 Apr 2018 #19
No - there are also Indians asking about visas.

Step one is to move all the alt right stuff about Sweden to a single thread. Those posters rarely comment on anything that is not political. If it is vaguely poltical they soon start spouting about cucks, moslems in trucks running over cucks, neckbeards, msn etc
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,580
1 Apr 2018 #20
Step one is to move all the alt right stuff about Sweden to a single thread.

It is - it's called 'ever been to sweden?'

This one is about Germanistan - another cucked country where women only zones have been created so as to prevent a repeat of the massive grope fest that occured in Cologne on NYE. Perhaps the rise of AfD will soon change that.

will not make the slightest bit of difference.

We don't need to do anything - the migrants have already pushed countless people to the right in Austria, Poland, Hungary, Czechy, Slovakia and now Italy. People are getting sick and tired of multiculturalism and hordes of 3rd world foreigners accosting native Europeans. The more the migrants act up, the more people begin voting for populists and nationalists.
SigSauer 4 | 378
1 Apr 2018 #21
since if the type of society they espouse actually happened, they would be among the first victims.

They're already victimized by the type of society you espouse. People in Britain have been put in a cage for SAYING mean things about Islam, an ideology, like all other ideologies which deserves intense scrutiny and criticism. I've read the things they said, and I don't find any of them to rise to the level of inciting hatred. Speaking the truth about certain dark aspects within a broader group/ideology/society is not inciting hatred. It may lead to that, because those bad actors are doing things which are generally uncivilized and have no place in a modern 1st world democracy, but that is the ideologies problem, not the people who point it out.

We have REAL problems in this world Jon. People are food insecure across the world, 947 million people still use an outside toilet. Yet the society you espouse wants to spend our valuable legislative time deciding what bathroom a mentally ill person who thinks they're a sex other than the one they were born with wants to use. You look at the push back and say "uneducated" "hillbillies" or add some other insult into the mix toward people who don't subscribe to the society you espouse. Yea, because those people feel victimized when their neighborhoods are over run with foreigners, and when their low-skilled jobs are either sent offshore or taken by people offering their labour for a lower wage. You look at these people with disdain and disgust, and I look at them with compassion. I am blessed and lucky to have had the opportunities I did growing up, and eternally GRATEFUL to have a high paying career that affords me most of the luxuries in life. I know however, that the vast majority of people in my country do not live a privileged life like that, and do not have the opportunities I had. I don't despise those people, I hope that we can improve those peoples lot in life. Btw, by those people, I mean CITIZENS of my country of origin, and non-citizens who are highly skilled and educated that contribute to my country's economy.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,580
1 Apr 2018 #22
People in Britain have been put in a cage for SAYING mean things about Islam

That bs may fly in Germanistan, United Kaliphate, etc but not in conservative Poland where Christ is King and nationalist gatherings with tens of thousands of people are encouraged
jon357 74 | 22,469
1 Apr 2018 #23
They're already victimized

The success story of the past four centuries is liberalism; something Poland has a very long history of. Some people may get riles by the thought of change, however it happens, and liberal Europe is still thriving, despite the banal entropy of conservatism.

deciding what bathroom

Sounds like an American thing.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,580
1 Apr 2018 #24
The success story of the past four centuries is liberalism; something Poland has a very long histor

Liberalism of the past is NOTHING like liberalism today - today's liberalism is more like socialism/communism. Poland has clearly gone in a nationalist direction - hence PiS being elected and remaining 2x-3x as popular as 2nd place Eurocrats PO.

Either way, times change - 3/4 of Poles reject migration from ME and Africa and 80% rejects gays - so the question is why are you, as a gay socialist, still in a country where the vast majority of the population rejects your views? Again, it is either because you are purposely subverting the society, or because you know deep inside the system of your former home has failed.

[ - 60 mins... another 'right wing source' where cameramen promptly are attacked by migrants.
jon357 74 | 22,469
1 Apr 2018 #25

That's the whole point.

right wing source

The more authoritarian a regime, the harder the backlash when it falls.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,580
1 Apr 2018 #26
Socialism/communism is not what the majority of Polish people want in their country - the Poles fought for decades to get rid of that system - get a clue. You do know that there are strict laws against espousing communism in Poland right?
jon357 74 | 22,469
1 Apr 2018 #27
Looks like that went over your head...
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,580
1 Apr 2018 #28
What is over my head is why a gay socialist remains in a traditionalist conservative society where the vast majority of people reject migrants, homosexuality, etc. yet you keep espousing these things. Polish citizens don't want that crap and neither do the people citizens put in power.
jon357 74 | 22,469
1 Apr 2018 #29
So you really don't understand why someone lives in a country where they've lived for rather longer than you've been alive and where they're a citizen.

And going to pick up an award in a couple of weeks :-)

Poland is a large complex country, one with diverse views, with an urban (even metropolitan) population as well as a rural one, and one with a centuries' old liberal tradition. It's also a democracy; there is no obligation whatsoever to 'get behind' whatever political current is in office at any one time. That ended in 1989. And migrants (more and more) too. However much it may rile a 20-something clerk living thousands of miles away, Poland is a sophisticated place, and not everybody their fits the mould that you wish you too fitted...
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,580
1 Apr 2018 #30
And migrants (more and more) too.

Yes most Ukrainians... from Europe.. along with some Indians/Pakistanis who actually contribute to the society - not freeloaders who literally rape and pillage. Such migrants are welcome because they are an asset to the society. We don't have a welfare program that rewards laziness with apartments and money.

And going to pick up an award in a couple of weeks :-)

Let me guess... Catcher of the year???

there is no obligation whatsoever to 'get behind' whatever political current is in office at any one time

Absolutely. However, espousing the tenets of communism and socialism can make life very uncomfortable for such a person, especially as there are specific laws against it and such ideologies are despised by the vast majority of Poles.

[quote=jon357]where they're a citizen.
Doubt it. You haven't met the qualifications, namely of speaking Polish.

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