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'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland


Crow 137 | 7,721
14 Jun 2019 #511
Let us not forget because history always repeats itself >

THE FRENCH AND BRITISH BETRAYAL OF POLAND IN 1939
worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/History/polandbetrayal.htm
Crow 137 | 7,721
15 Jun 2019 #512
And guess what would they do next, if its up to them.

This is the plan >>> Poland help them in ruination of Russia and when Russia is no more, the day after that Britain and France say to Poland: ``See, you made progress. You won`t be split among Germans and Russians, you would be split between Britain, France and Germany. Plus, you don`t need to worry for your souls anymore. No threat from Orthodox Russians and you now can rejoice in being Catholics, yes ethnic Catholic. So don`t bother to be Polish Catholics. Much better to be just ethnic Catholic. Or Protestant, when we are at it. Ethnic Protestants. After all, why not be happy as Muslims, as we are. Glory to free Poland.``
Miloslaw 6 | 2,383
15 Jun 2019 #513
Glory to free Poland.

All Serb tosh as usual from this poster.
Yes,"Glory to free Poland!".
Crow 137 | 7,721
15 Jun 2019 #514
Don`t take that out of the context. You nicely sow what Britain and France told to Poland in that option. Are you stupid or what? How can you say ``Yes,Glory to free Poland!`` when they spoke of Muslim prospect of Poland. Its last what they said. Read again. Read slowly so your brain can manage to process all that.
OP johnny reb 18 | 3,683
16 Jun 2019 #515
There are already 4,500 U.S. troops in Poland and another 1000 on the way.
I don't think that is a concern to Russia however the U.S. Air Force will also deploy a squadron of MQ-9 Reaper Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance drones in Poland.

Russia is concerned that the U.S. drones could be capable of carrying nuclear weapons at some point.
"In the event of any conflict, God forbid, the territory of Poland would become a clear target for a retaliatory strike, if there was suddenly an attack on us," Russia said.

Do you think Russia would really nuke Poland ?

why not be happy as Muslims, as we are.

Are you really a practicing Muslim Crow ?
Ironside 48 | 9,844
16 Jun 2019 #516
Do you think Russia would really nuke Poland ?

No, as long as there American troops in the area.

Yep,

Shut your face you twerp.
OP johnny reb 18 | 3,683
16 Jun 2019 #517
I have to agree.
I think it was a very wise decision by President Duda to sign the new defense agreement with the U.S.
pawian 161 | 9,971
16 Jun 2019 #518
Let us not forget because history always repeats itself > THE FRENCH AND BRITISH BETRAYAL OF POLAND IN 1939

Yes, and there were many more before and after. E.g., as a little child I heard a story about Napoleonic campaigns how the retreating French burnt the bridge before the always loyal Polish soldiers protecting the rear of the Napoleon`s army could go over it. That was so mean!

And what? Nothing.
Poland chose Western orientation in 966 by adopting Western style christianity and the trend has continued since then - Poland consists of Western Slavs who are West oriented.

Sorry, Crow, I pity you but certain things will never change despite betrayals, trecheries, neglect or ignorance.
Crow 137 | 7,721
16 Jun 2019 #519
Are you really a practicing Muslim Crow ?

Not me, dobri brate. Look in the text. Its citation of what would Brits and French, as Muslim heretics, tell to Poles in one option.

And what? Nothing.

Nothing of course because Vatican always fill the gap. Pope gently setting his hand on the heads of Poles to silence them, while more important Catholics betraying Poles. To Pope, Poles are infidels as long as they are Slavs. Good thing that Poles more love themselves then they love Pope.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,407
19 Jun 2019 #520
The current pope yes, but def not Karol woktyla aka pjp2
Miloslaw 6 | 2,383
19 Jun 2019 #521
? How can you say ``Yes,Glory to free Poland!``

More utter gibberish........ not comprehensible......
Lyzko 23 | 6,638
19 Jun 2019 #522
Gibberish is Crow's second language and he know is fluentlyLOL
Gobbledeygook comes in a close third.
TheOther 5 | 3,831
20 Jun 2019 #523
@Miloslaw and Lyzko

Come on guys, how good are your Serbian language skills that you are in the position to make fun of Crow's English?
Miloslaw 6 | 2,383
20 Jun 2019 #524
This is an English language forum, not a Serbian one.
Though I do wonder sometimes............ :-)
OP johnny reb 18 | 3,683
20 Jun 2019 #525
Why do you Screw Balls keep trashing my thread by taking it off topic ?
You constantly mock Crow (who happens to be my friend).
He has as much a right to post his opinion as you all do.
Now get off his ass.
.....back on topic please.....

Fort Trump ought to be as busy as a bee hive today after Iran shooting down a U.S. drone.
Can't wait to see how serious Trump takes this.
China said it best, "President Trump, if you attack Iran you will open a Pandora's box in the Middle East."
Crow 137 | 7,721
20 Jun 2019 #526
In itself, frankly, 'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland is good to be in Poland if you understand it properly. Its there because of resurgent German appetites, not because of Russia. You don`t want it there because of Russia because it would be madness. Its there because of Germany. Actually, because of business.

The current pope yes, but def not Karol woktyla aka pjp2

Exactly. Good feeling, wasn`t it?

That is why myself speak on this forum that Poles have to have their national Catholic Church. What I know, non but me spoke in favor of it here. Isn`t that strange? Do we Serbs really needs brotherly to punch Poles in the face to awake them?

I do wonder sometimes

You do wonder?

Good thing Poles have Serbs. If Serbs prevail and not just prevail but consolidate and strengthen in full sense of the word, with secured flanks and rear, Poles would opt for truly Great Poland. Not Greater but Great. And not just Poland by the name but in its absolute, what Poland is. Polish and Slavic. In its own Slavic (ie Sarmatian) way.

If Serbs fails, well, nobody would blame Poles if they just join to amorphous masses of numerous Europeans who already gave up from being Slavic. Simple, the odds are too strong and Serbians are about to test it, to challenge it, involving all their vitality, all Geo-strategic means that are in connection to them and strategic point they hold in world in geographic and cultural sense. If Serbs fails what remain Slavic would become Russian. Being Slavic would be being Russian. And we all know, great majority of non-Russian Slavs decided not to opt for Russia.

So, Serbians. The last one that can tackle primordial feelings in Sarmatians (ie Slavs). The battle is ongoing, being you aware of it or not. Battle for alternative, for Poland. Without Serbs and without all what Serbs represent, even if there is 100 million Poles the fate of Poland would be sealed. And there is no 100 million of Poles, not even 40 million and declining. And friends of Poland just wait Serbs to stumble and then they to grab Poland once and for all. To stub their greedy fingers in Poles. No, they won`t put Poland in golden cage. It won`t be even golden grave. It will be just grave and with short time, even name won`t remain.

Yes, Adam Mickiewicz was right. Serbs. Not Vatican, not Constantinople, not Berlin, not Vienna, not Moscow, not Paris or not London. Not New York.

Belgrade. There will be decided.
Lyzko 23 | 6,638
20 Jun 2019 #527
Amen, Milo!
At least we agree here on each other's logic:-)

@TheOther,
If I studied Serbian for as long as Crow studied English, I'm almost certain I would use it with considerably
more skill, mistakes of course, notwithstanding.

As far as the thread topic, I do believe Trump wishes to re-name as many venues as he can get his grubby mitts
on, including the US - TRUMPANIA LOL
Crow 137 | 7,721
20 Jun 2019 #528
Poles, love Trump as Trump love Serbs! Love Trump more then you love Pope!

Amen, Milo!

Milo know nothing. He is tragic net entity. Man is symbol of Poles that aren`t familiar with politics. If he is even Polish and not some Paki which mocking the White Garden.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,407
20 Jun 2019 #529
Exactly. Good feeling, wasn`t it?

Personally, I despite the modern RC church. Many other Polish youth feel the same way that's why church attendance is so low. Do Polish youth still overwhelmingly identify as RC? Yes. But that doesn't mean that they attend church nor are happy about all the crap the current pope is pushing. There'll be the people mostly older who remain faithful regardless of what the RC church does, says, etc. because that's what they were taught and that's all they know.

I hope that one black cardinal becomes the next pope and brings the RC church back to its traditional roots and not just another facet of this clown world. If the RC keeps pushing turd world migration, saying gay marriage isn't a sin, etc. then i'll just raise my kids Mormon or something.
Tacitus 2 | 868
20 Jun 2019 #530
@Dirk diggler

Why would you bother with raising your children according to a belief system you evidently do not believe in?
Ziemowit 12 | 3,582
20 Jun 2019 #531
how good are your Serbian language skills that you are in the position to make fun of Crow's English?

Show me at least one stiff-lipped Brit capable of learning a foreign language, please.

Milo knows nothing. He is tragic net entity.

+1

Fort Trump

If Poland joined the JSF (Joint Strike Fighter) program in 2000, she could have been introducing now the F 35 fighter (the 5-th generation) into her air force. Instead, Poland had purchased forty-eight F16 for 4.7 bln $ (about 100 mln $ each). Compare this with Canada investing 160 mln in the FSJ first and now purchasing sixty-five F35 for 9 bln $ (about 139 mln $ each) with an offset of around 11 bln $.

It was Lockheed Martin which was most interested in selling Poland the F16 and cashing in immediately. At that time it wasn't known yet who would manufacture a future JFS fighter: Lockheed Martin or Boeing. The then vice-minister of defence Romuald Szeremietiew was in favour of joining the JFS, but he was dismissed under the false accusations of corruption and the new Polish government of Leszek Miller (of SLD, former communist party) succumbed to the pressure from Lockheed Martin.

Thus, we are now left with a very good, but somewhat obsolete F16 fighter as a result. It could be rather hard financially for Poland to buy the F35 now.
Miloslaw 6 | 2,383
20 Jun 2019 #532
You constantly mock Crow (who happens to be my friend)

You need to choose your friends more carefully mate.
TheOther 5 | 3,831
20 Jun 2019 #533
Its there because of resurgent German appetites, not because of Russia.

Are you saying that the Americans are in Poland to protect the country from a German attack? Sorry, but ... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...

Show me at least one stiff-lipped Brit capable of learning a foreign language, please.

What about the expats living in Poland? I believe that everyone is capable of learning a second or third language. The question is, are you willing to.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,407
21 Jun 2019 #534
Why would you bother with raising your children according to a belief system you evidently do not believe in?@ Tacitus

Tradition, family values, culture, etc. It's something that's sorely lacking in W. Europe, USA, etc. That's why kids are changing genders, women feel its okay to be sluts, and everything that's traditional or related to family values and culture, but only European/white of course, is attacked by the (((media))), brainwashed liberals, bogus conservatives like Merkel, etc. as they push taboos further and further and tell the goyim that it's normal, it's special, it's great, and other propaganda. Now it's even being attacked by a pope - which many cardinals disagree with.

Also, the pope isn't God. There's been plenty of bad popes. You can teach a kid the pro's and con's of different things and steer them a certain direction.

Actually now that I think about it, Orthodox would be a better fit....

What about the expats living in Poland?

All they need to know is a few phrases. Would you like fries with that, That'll be 50 zloty for the hour, Should I vacuum the inside too?, Nationalists bad soy boys good, and a few others and they'll be fine.
Lyzko 23 | 6,638
21 Jun 2019 #535
I agree with your premise, Dirk, only how to achieve the return to such values is highly debatable!
By embracing love of flag, honor, and country, needn't mean simultaneously devaluing multiculturalism.
Canada's a good example of the latter; she has high standards and refuses to lower the bar. Her citizens appear to conform to a common national standard, be they Hindu, Jew, Christian or Muslim.

When last in the Maple Leaf State, I was impressed with how everybody there embraces being Canadian, despite ethnic differences.
Joker 1 | 1,073
21 Jun 2019 #536
If he is even Polish and not some Paki which mocking the White Garden.

Every post is more ridiculous gibberish. How does he get away with polluting every thread with this incoherent diatribe?
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,407
21 Jun 2019 #537
I agree with your premise, Dirk, only how to achieve the return to such values is highly debatable!

Ban degenerate propaganda like Putin has. No more brainwashing of people especially kids that lgbt is normal, no more destruction of traditional family values, no more punishing pride in your culture, religion, etc., no more allowing a foreign people to replace the native population, no more encouraging young women to go to college to be ****** by as many guys as possible and then waste their lives in some cubicle and before she knows it she's too old to have kids - starting with that would make a drastic change.

Or at least encourage debate, don't cover up facts and statistics and sweep problems under the rug, and certainly don't throw people in jail for social media posts

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