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'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland


TheOther 5 | 3,566
28 Nov 2018  #451
What BB meant was that European nations are often using Germany's history against it when it fits their political agenda. A la "Don't like a decision Merkel makes? Remind her of Germany's Nazi past."
dolnoslask 5 | 2,386
28 Nov 2018  #452
Now I get it thanks for the simplified explanation'

To be honest sometimes I think Germany makes wrong decisions because of this past history , the decision to bring in genuine refugees for instance , sadly huge numbers of economic migrants jumped on the bandwagon and created a crisis where country's like Poland were going to be forced through the courts to take it's share of this disastrous, but well intended policy. I'm glad Germany has seen the light and dropped this madness.

Similar problems in Poland, why should our government spend our tax money paying war reparations to Jews who lost property in the war?, not as if we started it, (where is my compensation for my lands which were taken by the soviets) ,crazy situation that has nothing to do with us but yet we pay out of our pockets whilst trying to bring our economy into the 21st century.
TheOther 5 | 3,566
28 Nov 2018  #453
I think Germany makes wrong decisions because of this past history

Yes, I agree. Give it another generation or two, and that will most likely be a thing of the past. From what I hear, young Germans seem to be increasingly unwilling to do the "Mea culpa" for the atrocities their great grandfathers committed 80 years ago.
Ironside 47 | 9,544
9 Dec 2018  #454
What about that new American Ambassador in Poland. I have heard she is a stupid cow with no understanding of diplomacy or Poland. Is that true?
mafketis 19 | 6,853
9 Dec 2018  #455
No understanding of taste - unless you think "aging hooker" is an appropriate shade of lipstick for an ambassador...
Crow 136 | 7,373
9 Dec 2018  #456
How about Poland declare neutrality on global military alliances. What you people think?
TheOther 5 | 3,566
9 Dec 2018  #457
I have heard she is a stupid cow

She's highly intelligent, but also pig ignorant. She has no known connection to or expertise about Poland. Typical rich Trump supporter and donor to the Republican party.
Ironside 47 | 9,544
9 Dec 2018  #458
She's highly intelligent, but also pig ignorant.

hmm it means she is not that intelligent unless she is lazy like f.
TheOther 5 | 3,566
9 Dec 2018  #459
There are (far too) many people in this country who are very intelligent, but still wouldn't find Europe on a map because they never cared about anything outside the US. Mosbacher is -- in her own words -- a "redneck who lives on 5th Avenue".
Ironside 47 | 9,544
9 Dec 2018  #460
sure, nothing wrong with a redneck as it doesn't equal stupid and lazy. I think she call herself that to hide the fact she is just a spoiled churl - wanna be princess .

A normal personal with some sense if she/he is appointed to be an ambassador in some country takes her time to learn some basic facts about that country. Not to mention that if you pen some official letter you make sure to ask your staff to check spelling it for you. at the very least the names of the politician in that country.

Another dickhead from US of A playing at being a diplomate was that spark that ignited Revolution or commie take over of Cuba which backfired into America face big time.

If she will do something dumb like that again she should be just recalled as obviously she is ill fitted for her position and unable to handle it.
TheOther 5 | 3,566
9 Dec 2018  #461
A normal personal with some sense if she/he is appointed to be an ambassador in some country takes her time to learn some basic facts

It's the deliberate attempt of the current administration to stir some sh*it in Europe. They sent clowns to the Netherlands and Germany already, and Poland seems to be their next target.
Vlad1234 13 | 516
10 Dec 2018  #462
How about Poland declare neutrality on global military alliances. What you people think?

I think it would be a reasonable decision at present historic situation. Long live Europe without military bases directed at each other!
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,144
10 Dec 2018  #463
I can't believe that out of the millions of Poles living in the US she was picked - not someone who actually is Polish, understands the culture, speaks the language, etc. Trump couldn't find a single Pole out of the PNA or the dozens of other PolAm organizations? Obviously the Zionists told Trump it's better to have one of their chosen people in this particular ambassadorship - they don't want a repeat of the holocaust defamation/libel laws and want to tell Poland that a good relationship with the US will only be established upon being a good goy - Mosbacher will make sure of that. In fact her first action was to blame Poland for the rise of anti-Semitism in Europe. Yeah, nothing to do with the millions of Muslims who hate the Jews more than anything and are responsible for the majority of attacks on Jews, vandalism, etc.

This is why I can never say Trump is good for Poles or Poland. He may be good for the US, but for Poles? Not so much.... We're still waiting for our visa free travel... Over 100 countries have visa free with Poland but not US... shame...

redneck who lives on 5th Avenue".

She is not a 'redneck.' The furthest thing from it.
TheOther 5 | 3,566
10 Dec 2018  #464
She is not a 'redneck.'

She described herself as a redneck. I didn't come up with that.
cms neuf - | 795
10 Dec 2018  #465
I don't think she is Jewish but I can't be bothered to look it up. She is from rural Indiana apparently. I doubt she is stupid.

I noticed a weird thing in Warsaw recently though - a large Lincoln car parked in disabled bays right outside Marriott, Intercontinental etc with Washington plates and a big Trumo sticker in the back, is that hers ?
Lyzko 20 | 6,038
10 Dec 2018  #466
Mosbacher wears a mega-sized cross across her pant suit, but may be either distantly related to the (Jewish!!) Mosbacher yachting clan, or, more than likely, married to a Mosbacher, therefore not necessarily of the faith:-)
mafketis 19 | 6,853
10 Dec 2018  #467
may be either distantly related to the (Jewish!!) Mosbacher

According to wikipedia, Mosbacher was born Paulsin and she was married to Robert Mosbacher, of Jewish ethnicity but who had earlier converted to Christianity (Presbyterian)
Lyzko 20 | 6,038
10 Dec 2018  #468
I'd believe it. Sometimes Wiki can be right about certain facts:-)
jon357 63 | 14,076
11 Dec 2018  #469
with Washington plates

She'd have an official vehicle with diplomatic plates and security would be evident. The foreign car with the Trump sticker was probably just an exhibitionist.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,144
11 Dec 2018  #470
Washington plates

Washington D.C. or the state Washington? Mosbacher would definitely have diplomatic plates, it could've been a staff member's car. I've seen a few imported American cars in Poland - old cadillacs, some corvettes (my cousin had one of only 3 corvettes in Poland at the time. thius was like early 2000s pre-EU) and a few pickup trucks like Doge Rams which seem to particularly get a lot of attention. Poles who haven't been abroad much think its the coolest thing ever.

And fyi Polish people LOVE Trump, far more than Hillary anyw3ay

The survey found 55 percent of Poles approve of the way the president is handling his job so far.
And that's from an anti-Polish, anti-conservative source...
newsweek.com/trump-even-more-unpopular-europe-he-us-survey-shows-790700
cms neuf - | 795
11 Dec 2018  #471
DC plates - next time i see it i will post a photo ! I don't think its just a random person as they wouldnt be allowed to park there.

As for Mrs Mosbacher we can not expect anything better- Trump fired all the career diplomats and nobody sensible will want to take on those positions for the next few years
jon357 63 | 14,076
11 Dec 2018  #472
I don't think its just a random person as they wouldnt be allowed to park there.

Possibly something to do with the hotel chain itself. Certainly all diplomatic vehicles have diplomatic plates.

All part of the downward spiral that is Trump.
Spike31 2 | 860
10 Jan 2019  #473
"Trump downgrades EU's status in US from nation state to international organisation"
voiceofeurope

So The US has sanctioned the reality that the EU is indeed not a country but a politico-economic organization.
Rich Mazur 4 | 2,358
10 Jan 2019  #474
Just like that abomination called NAFTA. Or would tumor be a better term?
delphiandomine 83 | 17,531
10 Jan 2019  #475
So The US has sanctioned the reality that the EU is indeed not a country but a politico-economic organization.

Rather that they've sanctioned the reality that Trump is deeply in bed with Russia and that everything he does is about furthering that relationship.

Definitely time to remove American troops from European soil.
mafketis 19 | 6,853
10 Jan 2019  #476
they've sanctioned the reality that Trump is deeply in bed with Russia

A Ukrainian I know (very much in favor of de-Russification of Ukraine in every possible way) says they were afraid of that but can't point to anything that Trump has done that has helped Putin (quite the opposite) and at least in terms of that issue has nothing to complain about Trump's policies. The whole Russian investigation has been the American version of the Smolensk commission.
KK4AXX 1 | 9
18 Mar 2019  #477
First, to be a "Redneck" one MUST be from West Virginia. The U.S. ambassador certainly is not. Nor am I. I'm a "hillbilly" from the southern Appalachian mountains, though a modestly educated one. The Polish people deserve far better representation from the U.S. than what they have. My wife would do far better. We have visited your nation only once, but we study it daily and she at least speaks the language, (self taught).

As for Fort "Trump", well, the Polish people are overdue on that one. But, please, pick a better name! Pick a famous Polish leader.
pawian 155 | 8,507
18 Mar 2019  #478
How about Fort KaczyƄski?
Miloslaw 6 | 1,485
18 Mar 2019  #479
I think Fort Kosciuszko would be very suitable.
pawian 155 | 8,507
9 May 2019  #480
According to latest reports, "Fort Trump" won`t be established as a new base, but instead the current contingent of 4000 US troops will be increased.

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-16/poles-and-u-s-said-to-close-in-on-deal-to-build-fort-trump

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