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Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy.


jon357 74 | 22,060
19 Dec 2015 #271
PiS, Po3, are too busy entering NATO offices in the middle of the night and organising spurious bomb-scares to deter pro-democracy protesters to do much else.

But at least they're on their way out after a very short time - just a shame they'll doubtless try to hang on for as long as they can; dignity and common sense being alien to them.
Ironside 53 | 12,422
19 Dec 2015 #272
PiS, Po3, are too busy entering NATO offices in the middle of the night

That is a lie.

organising spurious bomb-scares

That is a slander.

dignity and common sense being alien to them.

Talking about yourself?
jon357 74 | 22,060
19 Dec 2015 #273
Is that really the best you can do? And meanwhile, the Polish pro-democracy rallies continue around the whole country.
mafketis 37 | 10,909
19 Dec 2015 #274
PiS are not threatening democracy but working to ensure that the benefits of economic progress are shared more evenly.

That's odd since most of their stated policies are proven failures elsewhere and/or non-existent. Are they going to go the PRL route?

How are they going to create jobs (number one issue outside of your head and inside the country known as Poland) when their proposed policies hamper or punish those that actually employ people?
johnny reb 48 | 7,133
19 Dec 2015 #275
No one likes change but Poland needs change to grow.

That is preceisly what the pro-bankters lobbyists wish to prevent.

Exactly Pole, democracy should be making the decisions and not a handful of people bought by foreigners and internal forces that don't serve Polish interests.

As it is now most Poles see German (banks) influence on Poland's public administration in essence having Germany running Poland.
That's why the PiS is drafting legislation that would dismiss about 1,600 mid-level officials.
The "Bankster" don't want the PiS to disperse this gang of cronies that's sitting in the administration presently.
Without change Poland will be slowed at ever emerging and continue to slowly selling it's soul to the E.U.
The Polish people are a proud people and want to be in control of their own country and not be a puppet to foreigners.
The election results proved this overwhelmingly and now the "Banksters" gravy train is coming to a halt.
Just saying.......
Ironside 53 | 12,422
19 Dec 2015 #276
Is that really the best you can do?

I don't have to do anything else really, it is easy to check that your lied about circumstances and NATO offices.
It is also easy to confirm that you are making unfound allegation without any substantial or material proof about the bomb alert caller.
You have no credibility left, you are biased, partisan and committed.
What else is there to say? Don't lie? You are a grown man, that is your choice.

And meanwhile, the Polish pro-democracy rallies continue around the whole country.

Rather establishment cannot understand a concept of democratic election. If they cannot stand to lose if they would win in the next election it shouldn't surprise them much that people would not recognize their victory, their attitude renders elections null and introduces extreme measures as a prelude to the civil war. I think most of them think it unlikely but they are wrong on that count.

Traitors!

That's odd since most of their stated policies are proven failures elsewhere and/or non-existent.

What are you harping about? What are you actually doing that you are afraid of PiS?
Polonius3 993 | 12,357
19 Dec 2015 #277
Polish pro-democracy rallies

Pro-bankster rallies you mean. Fess up -- are you getting a kickback for your proselytisng or are you simply (as Lenin called it) a "useful idiot" exploited by the outgoing powers that used to be?
Legal Eagle
19 Dec 2015 #278
And meanwhile, the Polish pro-democracy rallies continue around the whole country.

Right, people support their democratically elected government regardless of the foreign subversives.
jon357 74 | 22,060
19 Dec 2015 #279
Are they going to go the PRL route

Basically the "PRL route" is all that's open to them - that or limping along in the face of pro-democracy rallies by so many different parts of Polish society until they can no longer avoid early elections.

Of course they rather go the Orban route however they lack the key thing that Orban has - popular support...
Polonius3 993 | 12,357
19 Dec 2015 #280
"PRL route"

Isn't it strange that all the PRL hold-overs, refugees and stragglers chose to link up with PO? Knocking the ball into PiS' court ain't gonna change the fact that PO have attracted FOUR TIMES AS MANY EX-COMMIES AS PiS? They go where they can best survive and flourish and that is Platforma. Now Petru will probably start attracting the red rats fleeing a sinking ship.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
19 Dec 2015 #281
Today's the day!

LOL ! 10 thousand people in Warsaw, a few hundred in each of other largest cities. Big nothing to the point morons decided to fake bomb alarm to claim now that "more would come without that".
Harry
19 Dec 2015 #282
10 thousand people in Warsaw, a few hundred in each of other largest cities.

Why do you even bother telling such blatant lies? Or are you claiming that all the photos of the events faked?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
19 Dec 2015 #283
Or are you claiming that all the photos of the events faked?

Of course not. KOD Lublin, the only one in that part of the country.

300 people. Today's the day! Ayeeee !!1111 :)))))
jon357 74 | 22,060
19 Dec 2015 #284
So amusing to see the bluster from people who emigrated from Poland when things in the old country aren't going the way they want.

Every weak excuse is entirely predictable and so very silly.

And meanwhile, thousands of pro-democracy supporters fill the streets.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
19 Dec 2015 #285
thousands of pro-democracy supporters fill the streets.

Exhibition of racing pigeons attracts more people.
johnny reb 48 | 7,133
19 Dec 2015 #286
Or are you claiming that all the photos of the events faked?

Who really cares at this point of the failed demonstrations that accomplished zilch.

And meanwhile, thousands of pro-democracy supporters fill the streets.@ jon357

Yes with dogs barking, little old ladies standing in the doorways waving their white hankies, balloons, and and and....phew !
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
19 Dec 2015 #287
Notice that most of the people are +65 years old with their faces saying "can I leave this mess already?". I wouldn't be surprised If they were giving out free soup to get them there.
jon357 74 | 22,060
19 Dec 2015 #288
So funny to see the usual suspects (none of them actually in Poland) flap in panic when those of us here see the mass demonstrations.

Amazingly lame excuses, not one of them credible.

One more serious mistake by the failing PiS regime (and there have been many in a short time) is likely to bring even more people out than the tens of thousands who came out in support of democracy today.

And at that point, people will start talking about elections.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
19 Dec 2015 #289
to bring even more people out

So when is the next time ? You likely won't do that again as "demonstrations" proved to be total fail.
dolnoslask
19 Dec 2015 #290
Just a observation and having had a chat to my hairdresser (Who is the fountain of all town gossip), most people around here think that these demonstrations that are going on are mainly in the large towns and the big cities and that the people who are demonstrating have the most to lose as they had a comfortable life under the old government (or banksters as someone coined the phrase).

People in the countryside feel that they have been left out and have not benefited and lost out under the last government, I guess this is Polska B (another Coined Phrase) kicking back.

You might call this a straw poll

I have got the priest coming round next week I will ask him what the church thinks about all this.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
19 Dec 2015 #291
people who are demonstrating have the most to lose as they had a comfortable life under the old government

hh
Legal Eagle
19 Dec 2015 #292
And at that point, people will start talking about elections.

Poland just had elections, and you lost. People might be talking about the upcoming British referendum on the EU, since it could result in Poles returning from the UK, and Brits forced to return home to take their jobs cleaning the toilets. The UK will now have national parliamentary elections before the Poles do, but Jon and his friends intend to vote in both nations while they complain that Poland is "undemocratic".

The hypocrisy!
jon357 74 | 22,060
19 Dec 2015 #293
that the people who are demonstrating have the most to lose as they had a comfortable life under the old government

Most of the thousands who are taking part are just ordinary people - and very much people who feel we all lose if the constitution, the rule of law and the basics of justice are eroded by clowns.

The hypocrisy

As per usual, that rant bears not one iota of reality...
smurf 39 | 1,969
19 Dec 2015 #294
Good mix of people at the Katowice demo. You and old, although probably it was mostly people aged 40 and over.
katowice.naszemiasto.pl/artykul/manifestacja-kod-w-katowicach-zdjecia,3604444,artgal,t,id,tm.html

Pretty pathetic that some idiot would call in a bomb threat in Warsaw. Just goes to show how utterly sad and pathetic those against democracy really are.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
19 Dec 2015 #295
Katowice demo

Where's the "aerial footage" :))) ?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
19 Dec 2015 #297
I guess it wasn't needed for something like this:

jjj

That in the metro of 3 million people :)))))
smurf 39 | 1,969
19 Dec 2015 #298
That in the metro of 3 million people :)))))

There's no metro in Katowice, is that what you're talking about?
There's a metro line in Warsaw.
Do you have something to add that's on topic or are you just going to continue to troll?
jon357 74 | 22,060
19 Dec 2015 #299
Trolling is all the usual suspects can do in the absence of first hand knowledge and credibility; that and them being very much on the wrong side of a mass movement for democracy in Poland.
Legal Eagle
19 Dec 2015 #300
The facts are that PiS won the presidency and majorities in both houses of the Sejm in free and fair democratic elections, and foreigners are active here to subvert the results of that election claiming to be democrats, when in fact they are openly hostile to recognizing the legitimacy of the elected government.

You can love Poland or leave Poland.


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