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Berlin terrorist attack -- Poland's ethnic homogeneity a true blessing


After2020
28 Dec 2016 #211
As for Germany once Frauke Petry wins the election matters will take a turn for the better re: illegal economic migrants catastrophe in Germany. Harry et al are happy to portray themselves as atheists on this forum and act behind closed doors 'cultural christians' celebrating Christmas, preparing traditional Christmas dinners and giving gifts, hypocritical. In respect of Sharia law/compliancy, English law is the common law legal system governing England and Wales, comprising criminal law and civil law. English law has no formal codification: the essence of English common law is that it is made by judges sitting in courts applying statute, and legal precedent from previous cases. A decision of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom, the highest civil appeal court of the United Kingdom, is binding on every other court as will be in the Brexit case. In 2008, UK's government formally recognized the first Sharia Law court, and the Archbishop of Canterbury - the head of Church of England - conceded that adopting elements of the Sharia law into UK's court system was "unavoidable."Since then, over 100 Sharia law courts have been established across the UK. Although they technically lie within the UK's Tribunal Court system, these Sharia courts have been issuing rulings that contradict Britain's common law, as well as European Union laws.In 2011, Britain's Muslims began demanding that Sharia replace British common law and become the only law in towns/boroughs with large Muslim populations, including Birmingham, Bradford, Derby, Dewsbury, Leeds, Leicester, Liverpool, Luton, Manchester, Sheffield, Waltham Forest and Tower Hamlets, an East London Muslim enclave whose streets are already plastered with posters declaring, "You are entering a Sharia controlled zone: Islamic rules enforced" and where Muslim imams now issue death threats to women who refuse to wear the Muslim veil. Muslim controlled zone One-third of Britain's high security prison inmates are Muslims.To woo more upscale Muslims, most of London's financial institutions have become Sharia-compliant, which requires donating a portion of their profits to Muslim organizations designated by their Sharia-compliance advisors.This came about in the City when Prime Minister, Gordon Brown loftily declared that he wanted London to become the Islamic finance capital of the world. As an add on Harry declares himself Scottish or of Scottish heritage,Scotland has a separate judicial system to England with its own set of laws.There is little to no commonality in Poland, to what is happening in the UK with Sharia law, for a simple fact Poland has no Muslim community to lobby the Polish Government.
Harry
28 Dec 2016 #212
Poland has no Muslim community

Actually there are tens of thousands and Poland's had them since the 14th century.
johnny reb 41 | 8,001
28 Dec 2016 #213
provided that the rulings do not violate national law.

So marrying and raping under aged girls, beating your wife, don't violate the National laws of Poland or the U.K. ?

just post your request in a relevant thread.

You are the one that insists on trolling in this thread non stop to take it off topic and haven't got a warning yet so go for it Har, you tell us.

Let me repeat it for you.

Perhaps you could tell us if Poland allows those things in their court system ?

If you don't know just say so Har, you know I don't demand your accountability. :-l

I wasn't aware that Poland or the U.S.A. has Sharia laws that supersede their laws.

Poland has had religious courts for longer than the UK has.

And what has that have do with my question ?
Another one of your slippery "re directs" to avoid my question ?
Har, point is that Poland's ethnic culture is not about to let Sharia law into their courtrooms anytime soon.
Lyzko 41 | 8,871
28 Dec 2016 #214
Frauke Petry would be a horror for Germany, just when she seems over the past decades or so to be emerging from the long shadow of Hitler and his unique brand of xenophobia!!

To the current slogans I respond simply "PETRI UNHEIL!!"
:-)
After2020
28 Dec 2016 #215
The Muslim community in Poland is around 30,000 strong made up of Tatars,Chechens and Students from ME/Asia. The Muslim community in the UK topped 3,000,000 ( Three million) in 2016 with over 50% of that number NOT being Uk born.The problem is not the number its that Muslims see the world differently to Christians. UK law is based on Judeo-Christian values...

According to the Gatestone institute there will be 20,000,000 ( Twenty million) muslims in Germany by 2020 - "A four-member refugee family receives up to 1,200 euros per month in transfer payments. Plus accommodation and meals. Now go to an unemployed German family man who has worked maybe 30 years, and now with his family receives only marginally more. These people are asking us whether we politicians really see this as fair and just." 'gatestoneinstitute.org/6793/germany-20-million-muslims' This is the reason Germany will vote for Frauke Petry - who would blame them.
mafketis 35 | 11,542
28 Dec 2016 #216
The Muslim community in Poland is around 30,000 strong made up of Tatars,Chechens and Students from ME/Asia.

IINM there's only a few thousand Tatars left (centuries of intermarriage) Chechens don't actually stay in Poland (which is good because Chechens turn any place they're in into .... Chechnia) and Students mostly don't stay in Poland after graduation.

Frauke Petry would be a horror for Germany

Her best feature is simple: She actually seems to care about Germany and Germans. Merkel makes no such impression - she's all about virtue signalling and diluting anything German about Germany.

Again, the choice is either Petry or Civil War. Which do you want?

No. There are no other (realistic) options. The other options are fantasies that you need to lose.
After2020
28 Dec 2016 #217
A growing number of Germans are abandoning neighborhoods in which they have lived all their lives, and others are leaving Germany for good, as mass immigration transforms parts of the country beyond recognition.

Data from the German statistics agency, Destatis, shows that 138,000 Germans left Germany in 2015. More are expected to emigrate in 2016. In a story on brain drain titled, "German talent is leaving the country in droves," Die Welt reported that more than 1.5 million Germans, many of them highly educated, left Germany during the past decade.

The statistics do not give a reason why Germans are emigrating, but anecdotal evidence indicates that many are waking up to the true cost - financial, social and cultural - of Chancellor Angela Merkel's decision to allow more than one million mostly Muslim migrants to enter the country in 2015. At least 300,000 more migrants are expected to arrive in Germany during 2016, according to Frank-J├╝rgen Weise, the head of the country's migration office, BAMF.
Crow 160 | 9,400
29 Dec 2016 #218
Essentially, what we see these days is how Roman civilization continuing to destruct Europe. Romans, themselves a hybrid culture, mixed product of Egypt and native European Sarmats, were unable to coexist side by side with other civilizations, as normal neighbors. No, they needed to merge, to consume, to assimilate. That we see today. And what you expected? What we all expected? Reward for something? Reward for serving is more serving. Reward for staying alive is to stop exist.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,063
29 Dec 2016 #219
More cultural enrichment in Berlin

Homeless Pole set on fire by immigrants in Berlin
27.12.2016 14:27
Seven immigrants have been detained in Germany accused of setting fire to a homeless Pole in Berlin on Christmas day.

thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/286391,Homeless-Pole-set-on-fire-by-immigrants-in-Berlin
nothanks - | 640
29 Dec 2016 #220
After2020,

I am very familiar with these articles and projections. 20 million Muslims out of 90 million "Germans" by 2020 won't occur. That would be a ridiculous 1/4 of the entire nation practicing Islam. imo a more realistic projection is: 1/4 of Germany will be ethnic by 2050. I think that is a certainty.

I personally know some 1st and 2nd generation German-Turks and it's kind of a mixed bag. Publicly most of them still hold some Muslim norms (just as most Poles still practice our religious norms) but there is a distinct drop off when it comes to their children. Especially the German-Turks that married European women. Articles and data seems to argue the 3rd generation is make or break. If the individual is performing well in German society then they put religion on the back burner if not quit all together. But the ones that (for many different reasons) are struggling or even disenfranchised, they seek out their heritage and that usually leads them to trouble (the West has caused much disarray in their religion).

imo Islam and it's teachings are a big part of the problem. But I am conflicted how Europe should approach this. On one hand putting them into a corner and forcing them to integrate could lead to more backlash. But we also can't allow moderate and/or Ex-Muslims to be pressured publicly to practice the religion. Religious pressure no matter the specific religion is always a bad thing.

The major problem with the 2015 Migrant Crisis is it's implications on the Germany economy. [Demographic replacement is farther down the road and not yet written in stone] Jobs/money can cover up a-lot of problems in a society. The majority of Muslims in Germany (at-least Turks) would choose a stable life over a religious one that could cause them and their families daily hardships. There is no way getting around the fact Germany will be spending significant money on these recent migrants. The writing on the wall is obvious: Germany will decline economically. How will people react? Native and/or European immigrants in Germany have spoken: a move to the right. Muslims in Germany will most likely also react in similar fashion but their own version of the political right.

Up until 2015, I still had plans to immigrate to Germany. So obviously my change of heart illustrates my doubt in Germany handling this current situation smoothly. Germany will decline, but along with the rest of Western Civilization. Our culture is currently hell bent on equality and diversity. At-least in the short term: 100 or so years, how could this possibly equal better? Maybe in hundreds of years when the 3rd World has evolved or (more likely) the 1st World declines to the middle, then we will have true equality and we can go from there. But right now we are in the beginning stages of Western Civ decline. Whites that remain strong and don't fall victim to the "blended" propaganda might find themselves in the near future as the current Jews. Meaning a small population that is intellectually superior and economically thriving.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,063
29 Dec 2016 #221
Germany is now shutting down free speech by envoking their own special laws introduced after 1939.

Gosh they might soon start burning books that offend them.

Will 2017 be the year of the snowflake?.

Facebook is threatened with £425,000 fine by German officials for each fake news item it posts

dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4042014/Germany-threatens-fine-Facebook-hate-speech.html#ixzz4UE1Lv1ZT
sirena
29 Dec 2016 #222
"our culture is currently hell-bent on equality and diversity"- no, it is not. At least not Germany and the madmen that drive the current politics.

Diversity and melting pot of cultures (or peaceful coexistence, like it has happened often in the past among ancient societies) wouldn't be so bad.

But diversity would mean: Europeans from all corners of the continent; Americans & Native Americans; Southern Americans; Inuit; Eastern Asians, Polynesians, Australians, etc, and everyone with their own customs and religions, i.e. buddhists, shintoists, taoists, hindus, pagans, nature religious people, shamanism, and so on.

What western countries in general and Germany in particular are doing, however, is the mass import of a uniform and extremely intolerant group: black and arab muslims (men, predominantly, at that).

Everyone else, no matter how well educated and willing to work, still meets a wall when trying to move to Europe.
And Eastern Asians are just as unwelcome in Germany as they have always been, even though it's statistical fact that they are the most intelligent folks on the planet.

When you realize the plan is NOT to import busy, smart, cultured people, but rather violent, often criminal illiterates with a religion that demands the destruction of everyone who doesn't follow their bloodcult, then it's apparent this is not about business, diversity, tolerance or anything along those lines.

It is about the destruction of the native European races and cultures.

I can only hope that at least in Eastern Europe, people will be smart enough to see this and don't repeat the mistakes of their idiot neighbours.
Lyzko 41 | 8,871
29 Dec 2016 #223
Traditionally, intermarriage, interracial offspring and the like, have been understandably taboo throughout most of the known world. The not so recent attempts of modern industrialized countries, particularly in Northern Europe, to bring so-called diversity to a staid and established continent, have been largely failed attempts at best, fatal missteps at worst, all, predicated on the lure of importing cheap labor as well as to imitate the US, as I've stated repeatedly here on this forum!

What "works" (and apparently not so well) in the New World, need not necessarily be a template foisted upon the Old, at least not without some sort of plebiscite:-)
land of thunder
30 Dec 2016 #224
Just came here to get some Crow Philosophy, [and to get away from the noise outside], but before that - some people have made good points, but are not quite on the nail.

@- dolnaslask - #30 - a good libturd list for that one. However, H. needs diversity to not feel like an outsider; he'll easily sacrifice his hosts to feel comfortable.

Poland is blessed in its concentrated Nation state. It's not what the Anglo-American-Zio-Banksters wanted. Yet, it has produced good out of bad = an understanding of Nationhood, which, to the foreigners on this forum is a strength that they seem to dislike. Can the Polish Men withstand the attack on them after the collapse of Germany > Hopefully they will have the testicular fortitude to shove back when they are pushed. The women just don't get it; the men have to be MEN.

@- Sirena - #222 - Almost there - it's the Coudenhove-Kalegri Plan.
It's working well in West Euro - brainwashing the native population. London - 60%+ Muz. How many Britons- 10%?
Just heard on redice.com podcast - Sweden 20% Muz, that magic number before collapse of indigenous society. Only forcefully removing the chimps and bonobos, [and stopping mass immigration of apes], can save that Feminut run land of perfect Nordic lunatics.

@- #14 -????? - What fantastic, EXTRAORDINARY good news if true!!!!! Pol. perverts, queers and pizza eaters, leaving the country for foreign places where they can practice coprophilia. Wow! Polish air smell fresh, even from here.

Remember, blax do the whitewash thing by jumping into barrels of flour before going out. Don't be fooled!
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Now, @ Crow = thank you for showing the true nature of the world; that it is unfathomable and unknowable, and that it really does no good trying to work out the meaning of any of it. That nothing was nor is nor will be the same after what happened. What did happen? That is a mystery, as you also are a mystery. A mysterious philosopher.
Crow 160 | 9,400
30 Dec 2016 #225
We shouldn`t betray Svetovid. This world wasn`t worth.
NoToForeigners 10 | 1,016
1 Jan 2017 #226
31 dead in Istanbul. The "religion of peace" we have been told to accept strikes again lol
smurf 39 | 1,981
1 Jan 2017 #227
The "religion of peace"

No such things as a religion of peace, it's an oxymoron
Wulkan - | 3,243
1 Jan 2017 #228
No such things as a religion of peace

That's why he used quotation mark, dummy.
After2020
1 Jan 2017 #229
Many of you on this forum will probably never heard of Enoch Powell, a great statesman and war hero, In 1974 he broadcasted a speech as a warning to Britain, which became known ' Rivers of blood' speech, the media called it divisive and Powell was classed a racist and shunned in social circles. The future proved Powell's a visionary his words factual. 'youtube.com/watch?v=3MtIF6tw-Io'
cms 9 | 1,255
1 Jan 2017 #230
How was he a war hero ? Says in his Telegraph obit that he was in intelligence and never involved in combat.

You could discuss the ins and outs of his speech - he was right about some things and wrong about others, but this is a forum about Poland, not the UK.

But as a philosophical question what gives you the right to be in Poland as an immigrant ? (Assuming that is the case - i think you said you lived in Warsaw).
After2020
1 Jan 2017 #231
Enoch Powell was the one of only two person in the history of the British armed forces who rose from private to Brigadier. War is won by spooks, his efforts in ME especially in respect of Rommel, are outstanding.Obviously you would not know are care about, as you are not British and lack knowledge of the great sacrifices my nation made to Europe during WW1/WW2. Powell was a visionary, well ahead of his time,one of the great crimes in UK political history is that he never became PM. My position in Poland is investor, I am British in my head and Polish in my heart, I want the best for this great nation,I am not an opportunist like you CMS looking for the EU ride. Poland needs to learn from the past, defend herself align with America and prepare for the future. Poland can no longer expect others to come to her rescue.
Lyzko 41 | 8,871
1 Jan 2017 #232
Powell ran against Harold Wilson for PM in the late '70's, didn't he?
jacekkaminski91 1 | 16
1 Jan 2017 #233
70

No Powell was a Tory, dismissed by Heath in 68 after an 'inflammatory speech'.

Fiercly anti-EEC and hugely popular in the UK had he not been dismissed, perhaps he could have led a successful campaign to keep UK out of the EEC.
After2020
1 Jan 2017 #234
JK you are blurring the lines a little. Powell was a highly principled man, Powell became a national figure following his 20 April 1968 address to the General Meeting of the West Midlands Area Conservative Political Centre, which became known as the "Rivers of Blood" speech. It pointedly criticized immigration into Britain from the Commonwealth nations and opposed the anti-discrimination legislation being mooted at the time ( beginning of Political correctness). In response, Conservative party leader Edward Heath sacked Powell from his position as Shadow Defence Secretary.

In the aftermath of the Rivers of Blood speech, several polls suggested that between 67-82% of the UK population agreed with Powell's opinions and his supporters claim that this large public following which Powell attracted helped the Conservatives to win the 1970 general election and perhaps cost them the February 1974 general election,when Powell turned his back on the Conservatives by endorsing a vote for Labour.He returned to the House of Commons in October 1974 as the Ulster Unionist Party MP for the Northern Irish constituency of South Down 1987.

Stick to the topic please
Crnogorac3 3 | 803
23 Mar 2017 #235
youtu.be/iRk3HoR0ub

youtu.be/3dNgOpkEIRo

The area around Westminster in London is on lockdown after at least one attacker in a car mowed into several people near the British parliament, leaving several injured. Reports from the scene say an attacker with a knife was shot by police.

It seems people are becoming used to terrorist attacks like this being a "normal" occurence. News coming out from Berlin and London are becoming more and more like those from Baghdad.
spiritus 69 | 666
23 Mar 2017 #236
and yet there are still people (even on this forum) who maintain that Islam is not a factor in this atrocities, that these are not "muslim attacks" but attacks by mad men who happen to be muslim.
Harry
23 Mar 2017 #237
these are not "muslim attacks" but attacks by mad men who happen to be muslim.

They are attacks by mad man who claim to be Muslims, just as the last times London needed to deal with the terrorist menace the threat came from mad men who claimed to be Catholic and just as Burma there are bands of marauding mad men who claim to be Buddhists.
jon357 72 | 21,170
23 Mar 2017 #238
attacks by mad men

This is worth looking at:
johnny reb 41 | 8,001
23 Mar 2017 #239
They said on the news here in the U.S. this a.m. that he was born and raised in London or a "home grown" terrorist.

They also said that London is expecting another attack soon.
And you call the Polish bigots and islamiphobes for wanting to keep this out of Poland.
And you Liberal Progressives get down on Trump for denying Muslim's from the U.K. to enter the U.S.
Poland is smart enough to stay ahead of the game to keep their culture Polish only, which is a true blessing.
Lyzko 41 | 8,871
23 Mar 2017 #240
You can run, but you can't hide, Johnny! The world's changing, and has been for quite a spell now:-) You can't "beat" multiculturalism, even you try to fight it because globalism, sadly perhaps, is bigger than you or I all put together into one Mulligan's Stew!

No, the answer isn't the Nazi solution; herd the buggers all together and kill 'em! Genocide didn't work then, it doesn't work now, it won't work in the future.

Terrorists are much like rodents and cockroaches; you can spray 'em, poison 'em, but they still keep coming back, sort of as in that old expression my grandad used to say "Unkraut vergeht nicht!" aka "Ya keep turnin' up like a bad penny!"

The terror "cells",or, the Jihaddist education of radicalized fundamentalist Islam, must be eradicated rather than necessarily the terrorists themselves.

Hate the sin, but not the sinner. For this reason, I'm against quick fixes such as what you propose. I'm also against capital punishment, as only G_d is permitted to take a life, having been the only being able to create one:-)


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