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Two Polish Men on trial for brutally murdering German Pop Star in homophobic attack


delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
13 Sep 2017  #1
After one of Germany's most shocking crimes last year, two men have finally gone on trial for the brutal homophobic murder of a German pop star in a Berlin hostel. The description of the murder is horrific, and includes this:

They are accused of torturing the 47-year-old Reeves to death in a six-bed hostel room in the Charlottenburg district in January 2016. Prosecutors argue that there was a homophobic motive behind the crime.

thelocal.de/20170913/two-go-on-trial-for-brutal-homophobic-murder-of-1990s-pop-star-in-berlin-hostel

However, the torture went way beyond normality. The attackers, clearly repressed homosexuals themselves,:

had raped him using a large object and the assault was so violent that he died due to internal bleeding.

Unbelievable. The prosecution are rightfully going after them for homophobic hate crime, and one can only hope that they get the punishment they deserve in a German prison, preferably at the hands of Hans and his friends.
G (undercover)
13 Sep 2017  #2
Sad but If you go to a cheap hostel looking for homosexual sex, some folks might get offended hearing the proposal...

Anyway, that happened 2 years ago. Apparently some psycho think it's cool to bring up such incidents.
kaprys 2 | 1,723
13 Sep 2017  #3
It was a brutal murder. It is hard to imagine what he went through. They should be punished.
Unfortunately, such things happen all over the world. Just like what happened to Steven Simpson several years ago.
Ironside 47 | 9,624
13 Sep 2017  #4
They should be punished

No they should be freed and roam free, maybe they would meet jon eventually. Who would explain to them error of their ways and convert them to his commie ideology. If they would attack some people jon label as 'fascist' he would have been the most ardent defender of them and their foul deeds.
OP delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
13 Sep 2017  #5
Anyway, that happened 2 years ago.

It's in court now, therefore relevant.

Still, nice of you not to condemn the crime.
Bieganski 17 | 901
14 Sep 2017  #6
The attackers, clearly repressed homosexuals themselves...The prosecution are rightfully going after them for homophobic hate crime

At first I was going to suggest that the title of this obvious and latest serial anti-Polish hit piece of yours should be changed to "Two Homosexual Men on Trial for Brutally Murdering German Pop Star in Homophobic Attack".

But since you seem so confident that the attackers are "homosexual themselves" then how can they be charged with a "homophobic hate crime"?

Most whites kill other whites. Most blacks kill other blacks. Most asians kill other asians. In such cases the assailants would never be charged with a racial hate crime.

It should come as no surprise then that homosexuals kill other homosexuals for a whole host of motives:

Boyfriend Found Guilty of Voluntary Manslaughter in Kurtland Ma Killing

"absolutely one of the most gruesome crime scenes...ever seen." Ma suffered about 40 stab wounds and was "disemboweled," with...organs...stuffed into his mouth and pill bottles...shoved into his body cavity, in a killing motivated by Ma's decision to break up..."

The Weird Weirdos Accused of Murdering Robert Wone

Robert Wone, an ambitious D.C. lawyer...was allegedly killed by three well-to-do gay friends in a polyamourous sadomasochistic relationship.

gawker.com/5474123/the-weird-weirdos-accused-of-murdering-robert-wone

So there you have it. The demise of this has-been German pop star could have been a death by misadventure. If the accused were involved that doesn't mean there was never consent from the victim and things just simply got carried away.

And just because the accused were staying in the same hostel doesn't necessarily prove involvement. The dead queer could have self-inflicted his injuries after the two other men left in disgust when he chatted them up.
Wulkan - | 3,251
14 Sep 2017  #7
Still, nice of you not to condemn the crime.

Sad but

Still, nice of delph not losing his habit of lying.
Tacitus 2 | 817
14 Sep 2017  #8
I know the internet can be a dark place, but it is still hard for me to accept that someone could leave a comment like this.

Sad but If you go to a cheap hostel looking for homosexual sex, some folks might get offended hearing the proposal...

An innocent, legally upstanding man got viciously tortured to death without any provocation and this is how some people comment this?
Harry
14 Sep 2017  #9
Anybody seen any coverage of this in Polish media?
mafketis 19 | 7,019
14 Sep 2017  #10
Yes, put moderstwo and "jim reeves" into google.
jon357 63 | 14,110
14 Sep 2017  #11
I know the internet can be a dark place, but it is still hard for me to accept that someone could leave a comment like this.

Yes. The lowest of the low really, however there are some strange and troubled people in this world, ones who would go to the trouble of writing something like that. It makes you wonder what sort of stone some people have crawled from under.
Ziemowit 12 | 3,385
14 Sep 2017  #12
what sort of stone some people have crawled from under

So you seem to suggest that G (undercover) has crawled from some sort of stone?

Honestly, this forum has become a really disgusting platform lately and in true fact its name should be changed accordingly. The 'PolishRapeForum' could perhaps provide the best name for it as of now.
spiritus 67 | 663
14 Sep 2017  #13
@jon357

In a separate thread you are happy to practically support the beating up of a man who was sporting neo-Nazi tattoos and you even ponder what he must have done to deserve it yet you come across all pious on this thread when someone suggests there may have been some provocation involved.
jon357 63 | 14,110
14 Sep 2017  #14
support

come across all pious

Interesting that you seem to think I commented on the subject of the thread.
Ironside 47 | 9,624
14 Sep 2017  #15
An innocent, legally upstanding man got viciously tortured to death without any provocation and this is how some people comment this

Obviously there is no proof that they done it only a circumstacial evidence otherwise the investigation and trial wouldn't be going for so long.

Secondly, if a law abiding citizen looks for a trill in some illicit, shady places amongst strange people he might get more than he bargained for - have they not taught you that in the school for PC snowflakes?

Thirdly, if that was a homophobic attack why he was tortured to dead in a manner that indicate sexual motive? Maybe they should look for his former partner/s? I'm sure there would be plenty of those.
spiritus 67 | 663
14 Sep 2017  #16
Interesting that you seem to think I commented on the subject of the thread.

I don't think you commented on the thread about the couple being beaten up by Danish police.I KNOW you commented on it.

Interesting that you deny this......
jon357 63 | 14,110
14 Sep 2017  #17
thread about the

You might look at the very even handed comments about the Nazi thug who was arrested in Denmark...
Lyzko 20 | 6,317
14 Sep 2017  #18
Lest we demonize instead of trying to understand said particulars as to the background of the two attackers in order to prevent such from happening again, were the situation reversed and two German men had murdered a Polish pop star or whomever, there'd be those who'd say aloud, "Oh, those German b******ds!"
jon357 63 | 14,110
14 Sep 2017  #19
And that is a mild version of some of the stuff that would be spewed.
G (undercover)
14 Sep 2017  #20
I know the internet can be a dark place, but it is still hard for me to accept that someone could leave a comment like this.

Boo hoo hoo. So some "pop star" homosexual was sleeping in some strange hostel where you share a room with random people... Was he so poor ? He likely went there to meet some dudes and tried to pick-up some... drunk construction workers. Not the wise idea really. It's like going alone into shitholes known as "muslim neighbourhoods" and throw bacon at individuals living there. A bit risky.
OP delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
14 Sep 2017  #21
An innocent, legally upstanding man got viciously tortured to death without any provocation and this is how some people comment this?

Unfortunately, because the murderers were Polish, they feel duty bound to attack the victim instead.
G (undercover)
14 Sep 2017  #22
They are savages that should be executed. Which doesn't change a fact that the victim's behaviour was irresponsible.
Tacitus 2 | 817
14 Sep 2017  #23
@Ironside

otherwise the investigation and trial wouldn't be going for so long.

You should inform yourself about the case before speculate.

This article here tells us that both culprit fled the country, which is the reason they are only now brought to court. The evidence seems to be overwhelming though, according to another article I read in German they found their DNA on the tool that was used to violate him.

thelocal.de/20170913/two-go-on-trial-for-brutal-homophobic-murder-of-1990s-pop-star-in-berlin-hostel

Secondly, if a law abiding citizen looks for a trill in some illicit, shady places amongst strange people he might get more than he bargained for

So every person who tries to pick up someone in a bar/hotel whatever should expect to be horrifically murdered? It is not like he went to some backyard, he was staying in the hotel for some time already because he left his partner.

Thirdly, if that was a homophobic attack why he was tortured to dead in a manner that indicate sexual motive?

Who knows what those sick people think. There are always sickos who deliberately injure their victims like this, they perhaps thought this was some kind of ironic punishment.
Ironside 47 | 9,624
14 Sep 2017  #24
You should inform yourself about the case before speculate.

I don't care about this case.
If perpetrators had been found and they'll be handed a just verdict it is all very good. Less unbalanced weirdos on the loose. Hovered considering millions of non-Europeans that flooded Germany I think you have your hands full and your sensibilities jarred or you would if you have had freedom of speech and a free press.

I'm more concerned with all stupid and nefarious reasons why commie limes trolls are posting such old 'news' on PF. The reason is simple they are trolling this site.

perhaps thought

perhaps or perhaps it was a sexually motived attack that claim of an homophobic attack is either BS or someone else is responsible. Who knows? I don't and I don't really care.
jon357 63 | 14,110
14 Sep 2017  #25
a mild version of some of the stuff that would be spewed.

I was of course right:

shitholes known as "muslim neighbourhoods" .......They are savages that should be executed.

Amazing how one of them also managed to work Muslims into it, even if irrelevantly. It's as if they thing of nothing else. What must it be like to be filled with so much hatred and bile?

The case in Berlin looks clear cut, if there's DNA.

So every person who tries to pick up someone in a bar/hotel whatever should expect to be horrifically murdered?

Quite. If I horrifically murdered every woman who tried to pick me up in a hotel bar or elsewhere, there would be a programme about me on Discovery Channel and a slew of bad paperbacks. However there isn't, because most people do not of course horrifically murder people in hotels or anywhere else. These guys did, and are looking at a long sentence. I wonder how much they'd had to drink.
Ironside 47 | 9,624
14 Sep 2017  #26
Amazing how one of them also managed to work Muslims into it

Well, you can be sure that from now on I'll work Muslims and rapegees in every thread that you and your cronies start here. Seem that it bothers you. lol
Bieganski 17 | 901
14 Sep 2017  #27
This article here tells us that both culprit fled the country,

And that country was Germany not Poland. So this is nothing more than a local news story which occurred in a foreign country.

So every person who tries to pick up someone in a bar/hotel whatever should expect to be horrifically murdered?

Such gender neutral language you are using.

We all know that if these two men hit on a woman your feminist PC/SJW brigade would be howling sexism. So you think if a homosexual hits on a heterosexual of the same gender the burden is on the heterosexual to politely decline or virtue signal and "give it a try"?

Just because certain societies have been railroaded into fear and silence at the sight of public displays of homosexuality that doesn't now give homosexuals the right to start making sexual advances towards heterosexuals and expect no consequences.

And if these two accused men are homosexual themselves as the anti-Polish OP stated then it is a gay-on-gay crime. Anyway you look at it this local news story has nothing to do with Poland or Poles.
jon357 63 | 14,110
14 Sep 2017  #28
Muslims and rapegees

You must love it seeing people different to you walking past you, being happy and knowing there's nothing you can do about it.

a homosexual hits on a heterosexual

Do you a, know that someone hit on them at all, and b. think gang rape and murder or indeed any kind of agression isa an appropriate response to any social situation?
OP delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
14 Sep 2017  #29
Do you a, know that someone hit on them at all, and b. think gang rape and murder or indeed any kind of agression isa an appropriate response to any social situation?

The correct answer is c) gang rape and murder was committed by two Polish men in an act of homophobic aggression towards a German national.

Where's Patryk Jaki demanding the death sentence for them?
G (undercover)
14 Sep 2017  #30
Where's Patryk Jaki demanding the death sentence for them?

Is he a spokesman of a killed man ? Don't Gerries have their own government ?


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