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Berlin terrorist attack -- Poland's ethnic homogeneity a true blessing


johnny reb 48 | 7,133
22 Dec 2016 #91
Quote her welcoming them

In welcoming refugees, Mrs Merkel encouraged a movement of people into Europe

So if she welcomed refugees into her home it would be the same as "inviting" refugees into your home

Are you deaf or do you just want to argue again by splitting "hairs".
She welcomed/invited them into Europe.
I really don't think they make them any stupider than you Har.
Harry
22 Dec 2016 #92
She welcomed/invited them into Europe.

So quote her welcoming or inviting them. Do that or admit you're lying now just as you lied about a registered Republican being a Democrat, about an American being an Iranian, about a dead man still living in Iran, about Trump never asking for donations from the public, about Obama getting 110% of the votes in certain precincts, etc etc etc.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,920
22 Dec 2016 #93
True Brit

Big-hearted British trucker raises more than £50,000 for family of Polish driver killed by Berlin lorry attacker

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4059062/British-trucker-raises-50-000-family-Polish-driver-killed-Berlin-attack.html#ixzz4TanrJ4Ea
johnny reb 48 | 7,133
22 Dec 2016 #94
So quote her welcoming or inviting them.

Merkel's invitation to refugees, after all, wasn't just in Germany's name.
She was effectively speaking for all of Europe -- her words put the onus for accepting all the refugees who heeded Merkel's call on the entire Continent.

Europe is bursting at the seams and it's Merkel who is responsible.

spiegel.de/international/germany/refugee-policy-of-chancellor-merkel-divides-europe-a-1053603.html
After2020
22 Dec 2016 #95
Dave Duncan, has received some very nasty comments on Gofundme page. This guy wants to do a good deed for a fellow truckers family, why why why do Polish people have to be so untrustworthy? As the news comes out, it is coming to light 'Lukasz Urban' died a hero and may have saved many lives' RIP L.U'
Lyzko 45 | 9,440
22 Dec 2016 #96
Polonius, the phrase in "colloquial" German for what Merkel is supposed to have said, is rather "Wir SCHAFFEN es!", often translated as "We can do it!" in the sense of "We will MAKE it!" (from "schaffen" = to make, manage, also, to create [as a strong verb ONLY].

:-)

Yep, German meticulousness got but another well-deserved black eye. Comeupance for their pride in being the best?
Crow 154 | 9,004
22 Dec 2016 #97
Germanization clashes with Islamization. Interesting.
johnny reb 48 | 7,133
22 Dec 2016 #98
This is a quote from Merkel rambling on about her inviting a million Muslims into Germany.
She tries to explain that Crow in her meltdown.

americanthinker.com/blog/2015/09/angela_merkel_meltdown.html
Crow 154 | 9,004
22 Dec 2016 #99
Maybe God knows what doing, after all.
OP Polonius3 993 | 12,357
22 Dec 2016 #100
manage

Vielen Dank! Yes, that's it. I saw it but it slipped my mind. Do you know Polish?
Would it be somethign like Nam to się uda or Poradzimy sobie? Would German gelingen be a synonym in this case as in: Das wird uns gelingen?
Lyzko 45 | 9,440
22 Dec 2016 #101
Życzę pani udanego Nowego Roku! = Ich wuensche Ihnen ein erfolgreiches (literally: "gelungenes") Neues Jahr!

Yes, Polonius. I know Polish, but not as well as German as I essentially grew up with the latter spoken at home and didn't officially study/learn Polish until the ripe old age of thirty:-)

As far as Merkel's failed policies, it'll most assuredly cost her in the '18 elections. Frauke Petry's doubtless already licking her chopsLOL
Wulkan - | 3,187
23 Dec 2016 #102
She said "We need to be determine quickly who has a good chance to stay here and who doesn't. We have to make decisions quickly..."

Maybe she did say that, on another occasion...

you've lost the debate.

In your tiny little mind.
TheOther 6 | 3,667
23 Dec 2016 #103
Would German gelingen be a synonym in this case as in: Das wird uns gelingen?

"Gelingen" is more like "to succeed". You can't really use it as a substitute for "Wir schaffen das" (meaning "We will manage!"). "Das wird uns gelingen" is also somewhat old-fashioned.
Wincig 2 | 227
23 Dec 2016 #104
As far as Merkel's failed policies, it'll most assuredly cost her in the '18 elections.

I very much doubt this
nothanks - | 631
23 Dec 2016 #105
She is on pace to be re-elected. Germany is still doing well economically and "stay on the path" German mentality won't want to rock the boat.

imo many Germans (especially the relatively young) just accept the current situation as "sooner or later this would have happened because of American warmongering" etc etc and other countless excuses like "if only the rest of the Europe and especially the East offered a helping hand" etc etc.

In Germany the biggest embarrassment/sin is being a racist. Thus every Native German is tripping over the other trying to prove how enlightened and experienced they are in multiculturalism. Consider: the big post attack news was "Germans" uniting at the scene the following day and singing "We are the World". An American song originally intended for African awareness. This is how increasingly diluted German culture is.
Crow 154 | 9,004
23 Dec 2016 #106
Berlin terrorist attack -- Poland's ethnic homogeneity a true blessing

while for World Bank this represent just another challenge in eternal run for more and more profit.... How to ruin and make dependent country that is ethnically homogeneous. They always found way.
GoodGirl22
23 Dec 2016 #107
Merkel is the one full of innocent germans blood on her hands. She is fully responsible, because she invited and paid billions of euros to these islamist soldiers "refugees"
GoodGirl22
23 Dec 2016 #108
Merkel is much worse than Hitler from most points of view, she';s pretty much the most evil woman alive. 8 mass attacks with close to 1,500 victims committed this year the refugees islamist soldiers that she paid
smurf 39 | 1,969
23 Dec 2016 #109
Poland's isn't ethnically homogeneous

close thread
johnny reb 48 | 7,133
23 Dec 2016 #110
8 mass attacks with close to 1,500 victims committed this year the refugees islamist soldiers

Some of us tried in vein to tell the people on the Polish Forum that this would happen.
Remember me harping to, Keep Poland Polish ?
Thread after Muslim thread got closed because we were being called "racists".
Trump is still being chastised for wanting to keep them out of the United Stated because of National Security to keep the American people safe.

The citizens of Poland have now witnessed first hand what these invaders are all about.
And I am sorry to say that it is only to get worse.

My question to you people in the EU today is, "How in the hell did this last ISIS murderer in Germany make it through all the border check points from Germany to Italy without raising any red flags ?"
Lyzko 45 | 9,440
23 Dec 2016 #111
@TheOther, "Wir schaffen's!" is the best translation of "Yes, we can!", doubtless Polonius' question regarding the difference in English between "to make" vs, "to manage":-)

@Wincig, if Chancellor Merkel doesn't get her act together by summer of next year, she'll lose to AfD with little question!
Hate to be a harbinger of bad tidings, but there's greater festering resentment against Muslims in Germany than many of us even realized.

Incidentally, our man was shot and killed in Milan on his way from Oberhausen!
mafketis 37 | 10,906
23 Dec 2016 #112
but there's greater festering resentment against Muslims in Germany than many of us even realized.

Cannot agree with this. The resentment isn't against muslims per se, it's against the government. The government is trying to deflect the real and growing anger from the population onto migrants (in a craven and cowardly fashion) because they think that will help them withstand the criticism and it worked for a while but the clock is ticking down...

As for the muslims themselves, they're kind of..... irrelevant to the whole process. When things get bad the targets will not be hapless unintegrating muslim migrants but rather the government itself (and after the **** starts the migrants might decide that their own countries aren't so bad after all and that problem will resolve itself).
TheOther 6 | 3,667
23 Dec 2016 #113
In Germany the biggest embarrassment/sin is being a racist.

Yup, the Americans and Brits did a really good job right after the war...
TheOther 6 | 3,667
23 Dec 2016 #114
When things get bad the targets will not be hapless unintegrating muslim migrants but rather the government itself

if Chancellor Merkel doesn't get her act together by summer of next year, she'll lose to AfD with little question

It's a bit more complicated than that. Even if the AfD wins 40% of the vote, the other parties will form a coalition which will make sure that the right wingers can't grab power (much like the system in France). Germany will most likely end up with a coalition of SPD, Linke and Greens - a nightmare which will ruin the country once and for all because they are worse than 100 Bernie Sanders. At the moment they are blocking anything that would make it easier to deport migrants.
mafketis 37 | 10,906
23 Dec 2016 #115
At the moment they are blocking anything that would make it easier to deport migrants.

What are trucks driving through Christmas markets to the heady feeling of being super duper anti-racist! German citizens are for paying taxes so that left wingers can plan their grand social experiments. German citizens are just eggs, ingredients for their superb social omelet....

. Even if the AfD wins 40% of the vote, the other parties will form a coalition which will make sure that the right wingers can't grab power (much like the system in France).

If that happens it's going to be civil war (also in France).
TheOther 6 | 3,667
23 Dec 2016 #116
If that happens it's going to be civil war (also in France).

Probably not a full blown civil war, but a take over of most countries in Europe by ultra right wingers and fascist elements. Especially once the migrants are allowed to reunite with their families according to the Geneva Convention. There's a chance that Muslims in Europe will end up like the ethnic Japanese in the US during WW2, or worse.
mafketis 37 | 10,906
23 Dec 2016 #117
There's a chance that Muslims in Europe will end up like the ethnic Japanese in the US during WW2, or worse

Or most will simply decide thier home countries (that most of them are more attached to anyway) are better for them than Europe.

I don't see mass organized violence or anything like that. I do see them being given the choice - assimilate (culturally) or leave and I think some will stay and assimilate and others will leave.
TheOther 6 | 3,667
23 Dec 2016 #118
I do see them being given the choice - assimilate (culturally) or leave and I think some will stay and assimilate and others will leave.

That will all depend on how much longer these attacks continue, and how large the number of Muslims in Europe will be in the not so distant future. Germany accepted around 1.5 million migrants/ refugees over the past two years. Now imagine each one of them brings an average of ten family members to the country. That's already 15 million or roughly 20% of the population. Add millions of Turks to that mix, and you can see the writing on the wall. Let's hope you are right and everything stays peaceful. I have my doubts though given the fact that Erdogan for example urges ethnic Turks in Europe to never integrate or assimilate into their host culture.
johnny reb 48 | 7,133
23 Dec 2016 #119
migrants might decide that their own countries aren't so bad after all and that problem will resolve itself).

You still are not listening......one more time ........ their duty to Allah is to convert the world to Islam.
Try your hardest to understand that.

I think some will stay and assimilate and others will leave.

Wrong, they have no intentions of assimilating and the few that leave will be replaced by ten times with Muslim women and children.

and you can see the writing on the wall.

Apparently some are blind to the motivation of these people which is "convert to Islam or die".
We are "INFIDELS" to them.
We are now in the Middle of the 8th Crusade !
In the old days, when Richard the Lionheart lead the 3rd Crusade to the Walls Jerusalem.... they called them 'Saracens".
But they were MUSLIMS ! Just the-same.
This is an unending holy war that will not end until one side eliminates the other side.
mafketis 37 | 10,906
23 Dec 2016 #120
their duty to Allah is to convert the world to Islam

It's Christians' duty to convert the world to Christianity... How many heathens have you converted?

There are actors who want to spread conversion (like US ally Saudi Arabia) but the problems besetting muslims in Europe are usually more related to cultural issues (the dominant values in muslim countries are very different from the dominant values in Europe) exacerbated by the tendency for muslims to confuse cultural and religious practices. Europe is not a climate that muslims thrive in (unless you count welfare dependency as 'thriving') but the biggest problems are cultral, not religious.

Wrong, they have no intentions of assimilating

I've known muslims who can and do assimilate and who take a completely reasonable approach to their religion. They tend to be the minority but it does happen.


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