The mistake is to think that heterogeneity in and of itself is the wellspring of social peace. In US history, apart from the "Indian-Wars", there was considerable social disquiet in the Far West, bandits fighting opposing (other ethnically white) groups and any hint of foreignism as instigator of such killings wouldn't have entered anyone's mind way back then:-)
Berlin terrorist attack -- Poland's ethnic homogeneity a true blessing
Sharia Law
That's another area of Belafonte's stonewalling. Here is his Mother Goose version of the situation:
**The Muslims flooding Europe are opposed to shariah law and would not want to set it up in their neighbourhoods; tehy willignly accept the legal system of their host countries and bend over backwards to oeby hteri laws;
**Muslim mirgants want only to integrte with and assimialte to their Western host countries and provide them with the cheap manpower many of them need;
**The Muslim newcomers have their honour and dignity and refuse to accept charity or benefits because as a hard-working folk they want to honestly earn their keep, hence they shun handouts;
**Neither Merkel nor anyone in her adminsitation ever invited or welcomed the Muslim hordes nor extolled Germany as an allegedly hospitable and decent nation. What actually happened was that one fine day, some Muslim suggested: "Let's all go to Germany" and the rest agreed, packed their things and off they went.
That in a nutshell is the migrant crisis according to HB. He also believes in the tooth fairy and Easter bunny. It figures!
Harry
20 Dec 2016 / #63
Someone has to expose the sugar-coated euphemisms trying to equate revolting deviant practices with "love" and homo hook-ups with "marriage".
So why don't you do that in your own name? Why hide if you're doing what you think has to be done? You're even worse than the scum who carry out suicide bombings: they'll give up their lives for the hate they believe in, but you won't even give up your utterly fictitious persona as a respectable and respected Catholic gentleman.
Neither Merkel nor anyone in her adminsitation ever invited or welcomed the Muslim hordes nor extolled Germany as an allegedly hospitable and decent nation.
We're still waiting for you to quote her giving the invitation you claim she gave. How surprising that you instead post off-topic ad hom trolling.
wellspring of social peace.
It's not about scanning human history for examples for or against. It is about today's concrete situation in Europe -- and allowing those particular alien hordes to flood the continent is social, cultural, edconomic and physical suicide.
still waiting
Belafonte continues to believe that the earth is flat. Why? Because he's trying to track down a quote from Columbus that it is actually spherical. (LOL!)
Why hide if
If he has nothing to be ashamed of, why is it that Belafonte continues to hide behind his nick during his Church-bashing, Pole-bashing, Anglo-jabber promoting, know-alling and, obsessive ad hom trolling? Why doesn't he tell the forum which is the homeland of his birth, why he prefers cats to kids and is rarely sober (50 beers a night)?
give up your utterly fictitious persona
One wonders why Hairy Belafonte reuses to give up his utterly fictious image as a member of the human race.
in your own name?
Why don't you extol the virtues of the sodomy you have boasted about on PF in your own name?
Harry
21 Dec 2016 / #69
Neither Merkel nor anyone in her adminsitation ever invited or welcomed the Muslim hordes nor extolled Germany as an allegedly hospitable and decent nation.
And still Po hasn't posted a link to a quote from Merkel in which she invites migrants to Germany. But nobody is waiting anymore, he's now posted in this thread three times this morning and each post has been nothing but off-topic ad hom trolling, which tells us that he knows his claim has been exposed as pure fiction.
[Edit] Sorry, make that four posts this morning from Po with nothing but off-topic ad hom trolling instead of giving a quote from Merkel in which she invites migrants to Germany.
What a surprise to see which posters are using a sickening terrorist atrocity to support the same tired racist filth they pollute this place with but would never dare to put their own names to.
Every time something like this happens, leftists on social media cry about how the political right abuses the victims for their propaganda, while they want to use the victims to shut down any discussion about the elephant in the room.
Geez Harry and Polonius why don't you tow get a room? Polluting forum with your BS.
Harry
21 Dec 2016 / #72
the elephant in the room.
When you refer to the elephant in the room, which elephant are you referring to? The fact that none of the neo-Nazis and their supporters who claim that Merkel invited all immigrants are ever able quote her saying that?
Or the fact that Poles have for hundreds of years benefited from the opportunities other nations have given the millions of Poles who felt that their lives would be better outside Poland?
Or the fact that most of the people here complaining about immigrants are themselves immigrants or at best the children of immigrants?
dolnoslask 5 | 2807
21 Dec 2016 / #73
themselves immigrants or at best the children of immigrants?
Ah them were the days when people left for foreign lands to live in peace and harmony, work hard anf make a contribution to their host country.
Today hordes of economic migrant,thieves, rapists, murderers and terrorists masquerading as refugees are being allowed into Europe without any checks or balances, as a result innocent people like the Polish truck driver and innocent shoppers in Berlin are being slaughtered, Random unvetted lunatics are running the streets of Europe with bombs and assault rifles shouting god is great death to the disbelievers. kids are being raped in swimming pools I could go on.
I think it is moronic to draw past Polish migration with the crisis we face today, get a grip refugees are not the problem the above is and its destroying our way of life, but I think that is what you want Harry, never a sympathetic word from you when innocents die on the streets of Europe
Harry
21 Dec 2016 / #74
Today hordes of economic migrant,thieves, rapists, murderers and terrorists masquerading as refugees are being allowed into Europe without any checks or balances
Remind me what checks prevented tens of thousands of men who had fought for the Nazis from being given the right to settle in the UK or the British empire at the end of WWII.
as a result innocent people like the Polish truck driver and innocent shoppers in Berlin are being slaughtered, Random unvetted lunatics are running the streets of Europe with bombs and assault rifles shouting god is great death to the disbelievers. kids are being raped in swimming pools
No, not as a result: all of those things happened before the current migrant crisis and all of them would continue to happen even if not a single migrant was allowed into the EU from today and for the rest of time.
it is moronic to draw past Polish migration with the crisis we face today
Now we suspect that a few hundred refugees might have had some training from ISIS, back in the late 1940s the British government knew for a fact that nearly a hundred thousand potential migrants had served in armed forces which were fighting to destroy the British state.
dolnoslask 5 | 2807
21 Dec 2016 / #75
Now we suspect
You are either crazy or the great grandson of Lord Haw-Haw, or both? , you as a foreigner openly support groups in Poland who take direct physical action to stop the normal function of the Polish government, as was chosen in a fair and legal ballot.
You are not concerned that Poland is being pressed to take in unvetted peolple where a number of them could have the intent to kill, murder and rape Polish citizens.
But there again if things get tough here in Poland and its time for you to runaway as you have in the past , you have plenty of passports in your pocket to choose from.
Harry
21 Dec 2016 / #76
the normal function of the Polish government
Interesting that you think that illegal actions are normal functions of the Polish government.
You are not concerned that Poland is being pressed to take in unvetted peolple where a number of them could have the intent to kill, murder and rape Polish citizens.
I'm more concerned that the overwhelming majority of refugees should be expected to suffer because a tiny minority *might* have bad intentions.
if things get tough here in Poland and its time for you to runaway as you have in the past , you have plenty of passports in your pocket to choose from.
Good to see that you know you've lost the debate and so need to engage in off-topic ad hom trolling instead. As for plenty of passports, sent your British one back yet?
dolnoslask 5 | 2807
21 Dec 2016 / #77
tiny minority *might* have bad intentions.
This risk is too great as has been proven on the streets of other Eurpean cities, the doors need to be firmly kept shut until the politicians can give the Polish people a concrete guarantee of safety from what you call a tiny minority.
engage in off-topic ad hom trolling instead
Then you need to pack up accusing me of being homophobic when I am not, up to you call it quits with the trolling , merry christmas.
dolnoslask 5 | 2807
21 Dec 2016 / #78
refugees should be expected to suffer because a tiny minority *might* have bad intentions.
See the result of your tiny minority below.
Revealed: Tunisian asylum seeker, 23, suspected of carrying out Berlin massacre was arrested THREE times this year amid fears he was planning a terror plot - but police let him go and are now offering 100,000 euros to anyone who finds him
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4054140/How-German-police-bungled-hunt-Europe-s-wanted-man-Asylum-seeker-23-wrongly-blamed-Christmas-market-massacre-jumping-red-light.html#ixzz4TUrh3olQ
Poles have for hundreds of years benefited
Yes, but Poles never went abroad to take over. They worked at menial, back-breaking jobs, were too proud to accept charity and slowly worked their way up the social ladder through their own hard work and perseverance.They did not try to impose Catholicism on the host nation and claim they found the very sight of a Protestant church offensive. They did nto demand the "right" to be judged according to Napoleonic Law, because that's what they were accustomed to in the Old Coutnry. They did not gang-rape non-Polish women who wandered into their neighbourhood. And they did not aim lorries and plough into Americans celebrating such non-Polish occasions as the Fourth of July, Thanksgivng Day parades, the Super Bowl or rodeos.
Strange, but those with the least factual knowledge spout off the loudest, and we all know who the forum's chief spouter is -- aka the "master baiter".
The fact that none of the neo-Nazis
It came from regressive left. Hey Neo-Commie what else you have to lie?
Or the fact that Poles have for hundreds of years benefited from the opportunities
What are you even talking about? No one was doing Poles any favours - ever! Not to mention medical and other test and probes they had to endure.
You are comparing apples and oranges here as your pal Junker (another damn hypocrite). Poles were emigrating (as other nationals) within the borders of the Christendom, their own civilization.
Didn't move to China, Japan, or Saudi Arabia.
Why those refugees don't move to filthy rich countries of the Persian Gulf? The distant is the same, and in some cases closer.
Well, those countries have a custom of beheading any neo-Marxist or a commie that put up his ugly head. That at least one thing that could be copied.
This so called refugee crisis is just a pure madness. All the law abiding citizens are being photographed, categorized, labelled, numbered, probed, DNA samples and they still they could get shot if trying to cross a border on foot in some forests.
On the other hand masses of people about nobody know a first thing about. Without any ID can just trample across countries, continent at their leisure. WTF?
Those are no migrants, emigrants in the traditional sense. Those are hordes of human migration (Völkerwanderung) - the main reason the Roman Empire is no more.
Remind me what checks prevented tens of thousands of men who had fought for the Nazis
Crazy troll!
We're still waiting for you to quote her giving the invitation you claim she gave.
She said that Germany will take care of every migrant crossing their boarder [edited]
Harry
22 Dec 2016 / #82
She said that Germany
She said that Germany would meet its obligations under international law. She said "We need to be determine quickly who has a good chance to stay here and who doesn't. We have to make decisions quickly so that we can deport those who have been rejected quickly." She did not invite migrants to Germany. The fact that you failed to quote her saying anything and that you, as usual, posted off-topic ad hom abuse shows you know that, as usual, you've lost the debate.
you've lost the debate
One can only debate with an equal, hence there is no contest here as few would stoop to HB's lowly level. The whole world knows that Merkel and her administration opened oepend Germany's and welcomed the Middle eastern hordes. Only HB doesn't know that yet. Give him time, in a year or two he may realise what everyone else has known for quite some time. Tante Angela is now back-pedalling with a view to her re-election bid, since her open-door policy has caused widespread resentment in Germany.
Harry
22 Dec 2016 / #84
The whole world knows that Merkel and her administration opened oepend Germany's and welcomed the Middle eastern hordes.
So go ahead and quote her doing that, unless her invitation is as real as your invisible police attack dogs and babies forcibly micro-chipped by the EU.
Why don't you stop arguing about Merkel? The question on topic a one that haven't been answered as yet, why that truck had been waiting so long for unloading its cargo? WTF?
All that 'terrorist' attack looks shady to me. Especially actions and activity of the German state.
EU should be disbanded!
All that 'terrorist' attack looks shady to me. Especially actions and activity of the German state.
EU should be disbanded!
johnny reb 46 | 7516
22 Dec 2016 / #86
unless her invitation is as real
In welcoming refugees, Mrs Merkel encouraged a movement of people into Europe that her own country is unwilling to absorb.
Now she insists that other member states, who had no choice in the matter, accept immigrants they don't want.
This caused the Brexit.
So if she welcomed refugees into her home it would be the same as "inviting" refugees into your home unless you just wanted to argue the fact by splitting hairs of interpretation for the sake of a drunken argument because of an inferiority complex.
Is not welcoming someone into your home the same exact thing as inviting them into your home ?
Absolutely correct! If the US has faced her extreme challenges in absorbing non-Western, non-Judeo-Christian foreigners over the last century or so (and we're supposed to be the "Schmelztiegelgesellschaft" or melting-pot society), it's plain chutzpah on Ms. Merkel's part to expect from a basically homogeneous country a culture of welcome to foreigners who attack her citizens, often flat-out refuse to learn German, and to top it off, start dictating Islamic dietary rules for Germans to follow at the LATTER'S own century-old festivals and celebrations!!! Imagine hypothetically in reverse, German refugees to Syria insisting the locals drink alcohol, engage in open sex and eat pork, speak in German instead of even the basics of the native language etc.LOL
That's the kicker:-)
That's the kicker:-)
johnny reb 46 | 7516
22 Dec 2016 / #88
Absolutely correct!
Now we are getting somewhere !
These people refuse to accept EU law and want to follow Sharia law in their host countries.
Wait one New York minute Abdul..........you are escaping your countries laws to only bring them to my country.
How f-up is that ?
In essence what you are saying Abdul is that if you can't be happy and have the same freedoms that I get to afford then you don't want me to have them either.
insisting the locals
Insisting they stop beating their wives, let their women learn how to drive a car, let their women go to school to learn to read and write, let them have the same rights as a Muslim man has.
Poland is my hero alone just for refusing to convert the zloty to euro.
They sure the hell aren't going to let someone tell them that Catholicism has to be replaced with Islam.
"Schmelztiegelgesellschaft"
Since you're the German expert, do you know what Merkel actuałlly said in German? It's translated in English as: We can do it. It's probably something more colloquial than Wir können das machen.
Harry
22 Dec 2016 / #90
In welcoming refugees, Mrs Merkel
Quote her welcoming them, or just admit that you're telling as much truth now as you were when you told us about a dead man who still lives in Iran, when you told us Trump never asked for donations from the public, when you told us Obama got 110% of the votes in certain precincts, etc etc etc.