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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10


jon357 74 | 22,204
24 Mar 2024 #271
PS. It was not until the 18th century that the fork became commonly used in Great Britain

At least they were made of metal...

Russia, which cannot cope in a conventional war with underarmed Ukraine, which has mainly old equipment, will think 10 times before attacking another country

This is one of the key issues in the whole war. 50,000 dead orcs to take one small village with little strategic importance. Now, Putler's mobilising another 100.000. So that's 2 villages.
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,904
24 Mar 2024 #272
I am also smart enough to know when it is time to stop people from being killed for no reason.

How do you stop that?
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,015
24 Mar 2024 #273
@Alien
Europe is arming itself with deals from the US and SK. Most of that equipment will not arrive for 3 to 8 years. Not exactly a well timed plan. Europe has not been able to supply a million rounds of ammunition within the time frame it announced. Europe is operating at less than full capacity for production. It can be argued that France and Germany, despite the rhetoric, cant wait for Russia to get back to doing business with them. Poland, for so long warned the west about Russia, yet they did next to nothing to prepare for war until the war was actually in Ukraine.

@Paulina
My opinions are quite objective. They just do not align with previous thinking over the course of the last two years. I actually know people who died in Ukraine, some that are fighting in Ukraine, and a very close friend of 15 years who was forced through a filtration camp in Russia. I am getting direct information from people, and researching. I still cant stand Russia, or what Putin has done. He should be taken out, and is too dangerous to be allowed to do more damage to the world. That said, he is the strongest, and most feared leader in the world, and the west doesnt have the balls to confront him. That pi$$es me off, and frankly its fvcking embarassing how Joe Biden and Z have totally fvcked this war up. The chance to win was about a year ago if all the aging warthog planes designed for air to ground fighting would have been sent to Ukraine. Hundreds of them just rotting away in storage. Sleepy Joe didnt have the balls to make some moves when the American citizens were all behind winning, and he had congress on his side. Z on the other hand fvcked himself by not following US orders and allowing thousands to die fighting over non strategic towns.

Everyone rooting for Ukraine is doing so from an emotional standpoint. Ukraine has won by surviving. I agree. Continuing to fight almost guarantees they will not survive either by Russia running through defenses or by so many men dying that the country is depopulated to a point it cannot recover. Russia will recover, they always do, they have ten times the people. Making a deal for peace is not stupid, its life saving.
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,904
24 Mar 2024 #274
Everyone rooting for Ukraine is doing so from an emotional standpoint.

Sure....nobody wants to be the next!

Nothing is going back to "before"-times....Europe is arming itself....it is now nearly completely in NATO....Germany etc. looking elsewhere for trade and stuff....these changes are to stay, no matter how this war ends... with one big loser, Russia!

Ukraine will recover, that is a hardy people there, with an already gruesome history....
Paulina 16 | 4,407
24 Mar 2024 #275
ISIS just released a video from the attack.

Here's the video (the graphic moments were cut out, so it's OK to watch):

twitter.com/therealZNO/status/1771665783015317947

"Here is the video.

It is extremely graphic but @CensoredMen removed them from his upload."
Paulina 16 | 4,407
24 Mar 2024 #276
Here's the video

I hate these f*cked up pojeby no matter in which country they are murdering civilians.
Paulina 16 | 4,407
24 Mar 2024 #277
Earlier ISIS also posted selfies of the four attackers:

telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/03/23/why-did-isis-k-attack-a-moscow-theatre/
cms neuf 1 | 1,831
24 Mar 2024 #278
How is Udmurtia going to run through defenses ? Why haven't they done that ?

They just proved how crap they are at combat - that they couldn't deal with 4 amateurs, 20km from the Kremlin and took an hour and a half to get there (because of traffic obviously)

Mind you those Muslims did have one advantage - they were sober, unlike any Udmurtian serviceman on a Friday night for the last 50 years
Alien 21 | 5,154
24 Mar 2024 #279
4 amateurs, 20km from the Kremlin

And such nice boys at first glance.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,015
24 Mar 2024 #280
@cms neuf
Ukraine is rationing weapons and ammo. They are not mobilizing more men. Fewer men, and fewer resources give Russia a big advantage. Russi is on full war time economy and production. They mobilized 100K more men almost three months ago. They are being armed and trained. Russia is already recapturing cities. Once the muddy season is over, 100K men can make one big breakthrough. It really is just the Russian math of war. Keep thwoing men away and eventually they will overcome defenses. Every war they have been in has been done this way.

@Bratwurst Boy
Yes. Ukraine can recover. Only if there is peace soon.
jon357 74 | 22,204
24 Mar 2024 #281
already recapturing cities

You mean villages.

100K men can make one big breakthrough

To the afterlife.

math

Maths.
cms neuf 1 | 1,831
24 Mar 2024 #282
they are already recapturing a city, Advika, not cities. No plural. That was a month ago and since they they advanced 15km whilst telling everyone that tehir victory was inevitable.

Mind you 15km is more than their police and OMON could manage on Friday (because of the traffic)

100.000 troops make a breakthrough and then what ? How can they advance 700km without air cover and how will they get across the river ? How to keep them supplied ? How to occupy a very hostile rear ? Udmurtia needs millions of troops to win the war
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,015
24 Mar 2024 #283
@jon357
"Maths" is incorrect. Russian math is a singular act, not plural. But thanks for continuing to be your genius self.

@cms neuf
Remember they used Belarus before to get within just a few K of taking the city? Russia backed out only because peace talks were agreed to as part of backing out.

Maybe the take of some Polish Generals will help?

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jon357 74 | 22,204
24 Mar 2024 #284
Maths

Maths is correct. 'Math' is not.

I see that Ukraine is doing nicely with the drone attacks over Crimea l; hopefully the illegally built bridge will come down soon.

And good news about the seized r*SSian 'assets'. They will go a small way towards compensating Ukraine for damage caused by orcs.
cms neuf 1 | 1,831
24 Mar 2024 #285
They "backed out" of their attack on Kiev because they were stuck in the mud with no fuel, no ammo and poor communication equipment. They were sitting ducks for the better equipped Ukrainians. It was one of the worst Udmurtian defeats since all the other defeats by Japan, Finland, Poland, Afghanistan etc.

There is no way they can use Belarus now for such an attack - they couldn't muster troops there without being hit by Ukie missiles, could not supply them and in any case Lukashenko will sit on his hands now, he knows the weakening of Putler's grip domestically is the end of him too.
Crnogorac3 4 | 888
24 Mar 2024 #286
Putin: "Those who gave orders to terrorists will not be safe anywhere in the world."

The Russians know how to deal with terrorists. This one did not want to speak, and the Russian took out a knife and cut off his ear. 😁 Then put it in his mouth.

In the West, they would get coffee, a lawyer, dinner, a bed, TV, etc.

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jon357 74 | 22,204
24 Mar 2024 #287
Those who gave orders to terrorists

Talking about himself no doubt.

In the West, they would get coffee, a lawyer

Of course. We aren't animals like r*SSia.
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,904
24 Mar 2024 #288
The Russians know how to deal with terrorists.

Yeah....that they do, HAMAS says thank you!
Crnogorac3 4 | 888
24 Mar 2024 #289
By the way, Hamas, the Houthis and the Taliban strongly condemned this heinous crime. Unfortunately, we on this forum have those who relativize "even terrorists who shoot at the defenseless, including women and children, are people".
Paulina 16 | 4,407
24 Mar 2024 #290
By the way, Hamas, the Houthis and the Taliban strongly condemned this heinous crime.

LOL!!!

You and they HAVE NO SHAME! DISGUSTING CREATURES!

Unfortunately, we on this forum have those who relativize "even terrorists who shoot at the defenseless, including women and children, are people".

You must mean you, Velund and Bobko (and outside of this forum - Putin and his cronies) when Hamas attacked Israel by butchering the defenseless, including women and children. You honestly make me sick.
Crnogorac3 4 | 888
24 Mar 2024 #291
Horrifying moment Moscow terror suspect's ear is chopped off and stuffed into his mouth

WARNING, GRAPHIC CONTENT: Russia says 115 people are now confirmed dead following a mass shooting at a Moscow-based concert hall, as a video has appeared online purporting to show a suspect of the crime

By Leigh Mcmanus & Will Stewart Russia Correspondent
17:40, 23 MAR 2024 UPDATED 18:58, 23 MAR 2024

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The suspect is pinned to the ground by armed Russian troops (Image: East2West)

A disturbing video purporting to show Moscow police meting out severe punishment to a suspect of an attack that left 115 people dead has surfaced online.

ISIS has claimed responsibility for the mass shooting in the Russian capital, orchestrated by five gumen wearing combat gear.

Hundreds more were believed injured in the shooting at Crocus City Hall in Moscow on Friday (March 22). The attack left the concert hall in flames after an explosion rocked the building a short time after the shooting.

Now, disturbing footage shows the moment the suspected terrorist appears to be tortured during his arrest after "fleeing towards the Ukrainian border".

dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/moscow-cops-torture-attack-suspect-32426159
jon357 74 | 22,204
24 Mar 2024 #292
suspect's ear is chopped off and stuffed into his mouth

WARNING, GRAPHIC CONTENT

Does posting gruesome images give you a hard on?
Crnogorac3 4 | 888
24 Mar 2024 #293
Russian security cut off alleged terrorist's ear and force him to eat it in gruesome video

Russian special forces can be seen cutting off the ear of a man alleged to be behind yesterday's deadly terrorist attack in Moscow and then forcing him to eat it.

By OLI SMITH, News Reporter
17:08, Sat, Mar 23, 2024 | UPDATED: 17:09, Sat, Mar 23, 2024

A disturbing video circulating on Russian social media shows members of the country's security forces cutting off the ear of a man who is later interrogated over the terror attack in Moscow yesterday.

The Crocus City Hall attack killed at least 133 people and wounded more than 100, making it the deadliest attack in Russia since the Beslan school siege 20 years ago.

Gunmen attacked the packed concert venue on the outskirts of Russia's capital, in what the Russian security service called a "carefully planned" assault.

In the wake of the devastating attack, Russia's security services launched an immediate manhunt for the perpetrators.

Vladimir Putin announced earlier today that all four gunmen responsible for the shooting had been arrested after being caught fleeing toward Ukraine.

One video of an arrest shows Russian special forces cutting off the ear of one of the alleged attackers before forcing him to eat it.

express.co.uk/news/world/1880954/Russia-Moscow-Crocus-City-Hall-terrorist-attack
Paulina 16 | 4,407
24 Mar 2024 #294
This one did not want to speak, and the Russian took out a knife and cut off his ear. 😁 Then put it in his mouth.

Wow, what a change from you - where are your calls for human rights organisations to react, you disgusting hypocrite? Do you remember your outrage at the photos of Hamas terrorists stripped naked by IDF soldiers?? You are truly sickening.

Another reason I will never be too hard on our resident Montenegrin.

He's a good person, with a good heart.

You must be joking.
Korvinus 3 | 542
24 Mar 2024 #295
Vladimir Putin announced earlier today that all four gunmen responsible for the shooting had been arrested after being caught fleeing toward Ukraine.

Putin made fun of US warnings on national TV. Now he has to blame Ukraine for it rather than admit he fu*cked up.
No, Ukraine didn't do it. Ukrainians didn't even do it. I'm saying that it's a false flag even if ISIS did it, retard.

And let me make sure I say that again:
This attack was Russia's fault, even if ISIS did it. Russia was warned about it and did nothing to stop it. Russia told the public not to take America's alert seriously. Russian police knew it was going on and stayed so far away form it that they had no idea when the shooters had left.

Btw, how does a building in the Capital burn down to the ground? Do you not have fire suppression systems? Are all the fire trucks busy spraying protesters on Red Square? Did they run the gas for an hour before leaving and light a match?
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,015
24 Mar 2024 #296
@cms neuf
They had the airport and were just outside the city wtf news are you reading? Send a missle into Belarus? Not a fvcking chance. Belarus would come pooring over the border in a matter of days. That is the best case scenario for Putin. Bring Belarus into the war and there is no way Ukraine can defend two fronts. Ukraine wouldnt have enough men to even cover all the defensive points. Strategically that would be a great plan for Vlad now.

Russia pulled out of Kiev because peace talks were ongoing. Yes, they had logistics problems, but they were not getting destroyed by any measure. It was at the same time that Vlad committed to not killing Z. Which in all likelyhood he could do at any time considering he has no problems reaching into Kiev with missiles. And as the days move on there are fewer defenses for Kiev and Russia just keeps building more missiles and ammunition. This war could not have played out much better for Vlad if they werent greeted with flowers from civilians. All he had to do was play a waiting game and sacrifice lives that mean nothing to him anyway.

Ukraine is running out or men and machines. If the US sends mre machines who TF is going to operate everything? No mobilization means no replacements for the dead and injured are being trained for when the new equipment comes. This is a simple matter of MATH.

And thats how the majority of English speakers use the word math. Yes, the US and Canada are a majority. Only people from the UK would even think to say "maths". The same people who brought the world such fine dentistry standards now wants to correct everyone and everything.
amiga500 4 | 1,546
24 Mar 2024 #297
I actually know people who died in Ukraine, some that are fighting in Ukraine

Yeah big deal buddy, cms neuf is watching youtube videos of westerners shopping in russian supermarkets, and mafketis is reading a twitter of a candian ex-racing driver who claims to have secret kremlin files. This is real lived experience and I have to defer to their expert knowledge. Who cares about dead soldiers when we can use clever words like udmurtia or repeat philosophical theories about russian society.
cms neuf 1 | 1,831
24 Mar 2024 #298
They did not have the airport LOL - they screwed that up too

Peace talks were never serious and of course no way would the Udmurtians fall back from their front line before talking.

Where do you get your joke info ?

I know people fighting there too - I imagine most Poles know some Ukie brother who is there

Russell won't be visiting many malls for a few weeks Amiga so I need to find alternative entertainment
Crnogorac3 4 | 888
24 Mar 2024 #299
where are your calls for human rights organisations to react,

The Russians cannot react because every soldier who took part declared "I cut off the ear" 🙄
Alien 21 | 5,154
24 Mar 2024 #300
I cut off the ear" 🙄

Muslims all over the world will 'love' them for it.


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