Pawel Adamowicz, Gdansk mayor, dies after stabbing

3 days have passed since his death so maybe it's time to turn off your unhealthy emotions and start thinking clearly. Let's focus on facts:

- Adamowicz was killed by a mentally unstable ex-convict, a bank robber; it wasn't a political assassination.

- The security at WOSP was substandard and the organizers and security agency should be taken to court for such a neglect.

- It's time to reinstate death penalty for murderers in Poland.

it emerged some new info about the security firm that was responsible for safety in GDansk event.
they had no office,no infrastructure,no equipment,no licenses.one guy run this from hes flat
and best of all...he didnt even have list of people he employed.
looks like he just herded some random people through maybe online add,and paid them cash in hand. i dunno,how can you employ some group of ppl and have no list with their names?

Except that the mentally unstable con specifically mentioned Adamowicz's affiliation with a political party (one demonized by the government) as his motivation...


more feeble excuses for blaming anyone but the murderer...

they established,he went to Warsaw first and was planning terrorist attack against civilians in warsaw,before he changed hes mind and came back to Gdansk

your stupid narrative collapse every time you write smthg

I wrote the same thing on a Polish Catholic tradition forum...

Paweł Adamowicz was, in the concordant opinion of most citizens of Gdańsk, the best mayor in our city's history. It would take a book (which I am sure will be written one day) to properly describe his contribution for Gdańsk.

The called him "budyń" (custard powder or pudding), suggesting that he was bland and lukewarm, but he wasn't. He simply didn't hate anyone.

They called him homopropagator, thief, German (as if it was an insult), child depraver, communist and mobster, they even wrote a "political death certificate" for him, and after all this bashing, and endless smear campaigns, he was brutally murdered in front of thousands of people. It didn't stop the political hyenas from attacking him, when he's not even buried yet.

As for the alleged crimes, tax-frauds etc. - absolutely nothing was proven in court of law, which (at least for people with a single ounce of decency in their bones) means that we should assume Adamowicz's innocence. He had a lot of enemies both in PO and PiS, and especially in recent years those enemies, using their newly acquired power, tried incessantly to find any sort of trace of illegal activity that they could prove him guilty of - all to no avail. However, as I said, it didn't stop the graveyard hyenas from returning in recent days over and over again to all the old accusations, hearsay and outright slander. It is, frankly, disgusting.

It is worth noting though, that despite the aforementioned smear campaigns, the citizens of Gdańsk have voted him president for over 20 years, and in the last elections he defeated both PO (Jarosław Wałęsa) and PiS (Kacper Płażyński) candidates.

Paweł Adamowicz was only human, and he made mistakes like we all have done in our lives, but he was a great president and simply a good man. He was also a practising Catholic, and it is a great joy for me to see the overwhelming majority of Polish Church rising against the hate-speech, and honouring the murdered mayor (he will be buried in the Basilica of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary).

all cool and sweet...but there is a little problem
he was killed by insane criminal,with schizophremic paranoia , not by kaczynskis henchman
and that suggest that you are "political hyena" who use tragedy to build narrative to slander other people.no?
as for such accusation of hes financial misconducts.
not only poor sweet leftist officials suffer increased public pressure in regard to their finances.and thats only sign of healthy public control of officials who get paid by the public.

That's a great tribute for a great man.

As much as we may not like the facts, we should not close our eyes and refuse to acknowledge them. And the facts are that the most hated by certain political circles mayor in Poland was murdered during a charity event of the most hated (by the same political cirlcle) charity organisation. When you start a smear campaign against someone (there were about 20 "reports" on public TV recently about Adamowicz's alleged financial misconduct) and use hate-speech (and one has to be blind to deny it), then you can very well expect that some weak, perhaps mentally unstable individual, will decide to act in a criminal way in response to all the szczujnia, to use a Polish term.


If someone is a Christian, then they should pray for the murdered mayor, or, if they can't afford it, then simply shut up, at least until the funeral is over.

That's pretty much ALL that I expected from the political graveyard hyenas in regard to the tragically deceased Paweł Adamowicz. However, apparently it was too much to ask, so I had to speak up. Poles will no longer be quiet, they will no longer accept the hate and contempt vomitted by certain people. No more.


As I said. Not a single one of those accusations stood in the court of law. No crime or misconduct was proven, despite hysteric attempts from all the enemies of Adamowicz. That's one thing. Another thing is repeating all the old slander now, when the family of the great mayor is mourning his death and he is not even buried yet.

Unbelievable... unbe-fuckin-lievable...

When I said "hyenas", I was actually being kind. Stronger words should be used, but I refuse to be engulfed by hatred and become like one of them.

no
so far there is not a single evidence suggesting that he had any political affiliation,or was politically motivated,or motivated by "szczujnia"
they checked his social media acc. they talked to hes family,friends and neighbors.
all of them said the same thing,, he was completely mad,schizophrenic who though he was unjustly hurt by authorities


BS......BS AGAIN AND AGAIN
he stated himself that he chose big event,cus he wanted to be heard and hes message to he heard by big audience..and thats what maniacs and terrorist do.

hes first plan was to attack random ppl in Warsaw....

so,until you provide us any evidence that paranoid schizophrenia develop from online attacks on PO politicians shut up. cus you are hyena right now.

dancing on grave of this man,building hatred toward another party with this unfounded by any evidence, narrative.

Right... so his shouting "Platforma tortured me, that's why Adamowicz died" had absolutely nothing to do with politics. :)

So, the fact that the killer heard in most media in recent years, and read on countless web portals and fora, that PO was pretty much the source of all evil in Poland, had nothing to do with the murder of a politician he, rightly or not, connected with Platforma and blamed for his "suffering". :)

Nobody denies that the man is mentally unstable, but also nobody denies that his hatred was politically motivated (as could be heard from the killer himself, shouting from the stage after murdering Adamowicz). Simple as that.

I see that some people simply refuse to acknowledge the most obvious facts. Oh, well...

Well written, Torq, I appreciate it.

hes suffering was hes motivation. if it was PIS in power at the time of hes arrest,he would kill Plazynski or some other PIS figure.

he was insane,and thats the way insane people think....its called SCHIZOPHRENIC PARANOIA.
do you understand word PARANOIA? GOOGLE IT , AND STOP BS


BRO.

stop this hatred,stop those unfounded accusation and slander for god sake.stop it bro
take a deep breath and stop this insanity in your head.you buddies had killed PIS officials before. because of posts like the ones you present here.

bro just stop

My buddies? What on earth are you talking about? I am neither PO nor PiS sympathiser, I just felt I need to speak up for the deaceased mayor of my city and defend his good name, because some people couldn't respect his death, and kept repeating all the old slander against him.

Anyway, I said what I wanted to say here... I'm out.

And quite right too. This hatred is not a right-left thing. A PiS official - Marek Rosiak, was murdered a few years ago.

tvn24.pl/raporty/mord-polityczny-w-biurze-pis,311

What bugs me most is the idea of the left being 'Anti-hate speech' whereas they are the biggest perpetrators of hate speech.

It's painfully obvious that you can't read Polish and don't know Poland. The vast majority of hatred on the Polish internet comes from the right wing and nationalists, not the left wing.

Now, why are you trying to desperately push the topic onto the left wing being to blame for this? Why is it so hard to accept that he was the victim of someone that was radicalised by the amount of hatred spewing from TVP and Polskie Radio on a daily basis?

If he was killed by a psycopath, then was it murder? And if not why reinstate the death penalty for murder?

Such is the narrative that PiS are trying to push down everyone's throat.

Kaczyński couldn't even find the decency to attend the minute of silence in the Sejm for Adamowicz. That's how pathetic they are.

Hate-speech is a Bolshevik concept and it originated in the US and they use it as a tactic to oppose any view which is different to theirs. Reading US forums and posts, the left are able to post pictures of Trump being beheaded or make calls on him getting assassinated, but that's OK but it's freedom of speech. The left simply call it hate speech when they don't like what is being said.

I was in Warsaw on 10th November when Lech Kaczyński's statue was being unveiled. The was a small but noisy group of KODders spouting their hateful rhetoric non stop. They even had an effigy of Jaroslaw Kaszynski in a noose.

Don't tell me that the left in Poland are not full of hate - it comes with the ideology.

Bolshevik...US...

Nope, I have to say that you've lost me there.


That simply didn't happen.

yup..check this one out..they cancelled it just few days ago:
dorzeczy.pl/kraj/90386/Klatwa-bez-monologu-o-zbiorce-pieniedzy-na-zabojce-Kaczynskiego.html

Any kind of hate speech, especially in public, hurts everyone, is therefore everybody's business, both victim and onlooker!!
National disgust and rage notwithstanding, such virulent forms of expression really cannot be justified, albeit the roots of such hatred can
be readily understood.

all this hate its just blown out of proportion.all those major political and media figures in Poland do shopping everyday and have no bodyguards. unimaginable in The UK

remember this Harriet Harman minister,visiting London peckham and wearing bullet proof vest .
this "hate" marches are just silly spectacle

And what about that Cox woman, gunned down at a flower show or some such event in the North of England, right?

It certainly did. I was only a couple of meters away from this mob. There were only about 30 of them but they were surrounded by over 100 police for their own protection.

In days gone by, under PO-PSL the police would have opened fire against any group opposing the government.

And not a single photograph exists of said effigy. How remarkable.


Except they wouldn't. There were plenty of groups opposing them and no-one got shot. Doesn't fit the narrative fed to you by Nowogrodzka though, does it?

How do you reach that conclusion?

There are no pictures of my birth. Does that mean I was not born?

youtube.com/watch?v=oc-hrftTih0

Hear any gunshots?

All the media present, all the video cameras, and not one single picture of the alleged effigy. Remarkable.


Nope.

Jo Cox, was shot and stabbed in the street outside her constituency office in a small town in Yorkshire. An elderly passer-by, a retired mines rescuer was also badly hurt when he came to her aid. She was 41 and married with two young children.

A tragedy of its own as well, jon!

Haven't looked up the specs on this bloke, but it's still pretty horrific.