Polish Lithuanian Diplomatic War? At last.

The discrimination of Poles in Lithuania has continued till today - practically none of hot issues we discussed 12 years ago have been settled. PiS government gave up and didn`t press Lithuanian authorities.

Really?
So do you have any evidence for this?
I have known many Lithuanians and never felt any negativity towards Poles.
Quite the reverse.

You are too quick, as usual. :):) Shoot first, think later. :):)

Kid, go to the very first post to learn what we had discussed 8 years before you joined the forum. Then come back and comment. OK?? :):):)

I will lean over your kiddy ruminations tomorrow. :):)

I did and think what the Poles are asking for is petty.

Asking for Polish street names indeed!

Half of NW.London should have Polish or Hindu street names!

Why don't these Poles move back to Poland?

Yes, but Poles or Indians aren`t native to London area, they are foreign implants.


Because their families have lived there for centuries? And you know, it isn`t too beneficial to dig out an old tree and move it elsewhere.

Then you would have thought they would have assimilated by now!

They have had enough time............

Are Lithuanians in Poland doing any better? Some years ago there was an article in wyborcza concerning complaints about education (local authorities were not keeping up their end of agreements for providing education in Lithuanian....)

It's a smaller group both in terms of percentages and absolute numbers but.... neither country was living up to their ends of agreements....

Look why do you butt in? You don't get it with your American mindset.
We in Poland know very well what those people were/are playing at. While our govermants act like a wet paper tissue.

Due to the lack of competent teachers. As far as I know, cloning people is illegal. :):)


No, Poland is fair to Lithuanian minority. If there were some problems, they originated after Lithuanian discrimination of Poles had been blown up by the media. Tit for tat is a known procedure in such cases.

I am upset with Lithuanians. They betrayed their old alliance with Poles and Serbs. They now behave as mongrels and fight for globalists. So I truly hope Poland once and for all take things in its noble hands and bang Lithuania. Wildly.

So those who have the right to education in Lithuanian now have it?


None from Lithuania could be hired? why not?

When I was in Lithuania for a working meeting (just before Crimean annexation) one of the hosts said that pro-Polish feeling in the country was going through the roof because of their policy toward Russia and Ukraine.... this was in Kaunas (least Polish and/or Russian city in the country) so make of that what you will...

When so stubbornly discriminated by Lithuanians, those Poles turn to anybody for help, not only Poland. Blame Lithuanians for contributing to such choices.


Why should Lithuanian teachers come to Poland for work? :):) Besides, will they also be able to communicate in Polish??? :):)


Why ask me? it was you who mentioned it, so you can try to find some info.

Did you even read what I wrote? I wrote about pro-Polish feeling in Lithuania...

I have to side with Maf on this one.

The Poles and Lithuanian trouble makers are as bad as each other.

If The Poles in Lithuania feel oppressed either integrate or leave.
Same goes for Lithuanians in Poland.

Yes, maf, I always read your posts carefully coz I care. :)


Yes , you wrote it, indeed, but it doesn`t mean it was true. General attitude of Lithuanians towards their Poles was never positive, more often indifferent or hostile. During WW2 Lithuanian collaborators were as dangerous to Poles as Germans.


Be reasonable, please. In the same way you could say that Australian Aborigines should leave if they feel oppressed by the post-colonial authorities. hahahaha

That is a stupid.comparison.
The Aboriginies were there first.The Poles weren't.


I am perfectly relaxed and don't need your.daft advice.

No, you are stupid. Why people who have no idea talk like that? Ask first!
So why don't you clear off from England - Bretons will move there they were first!


Yes, now. When they see that if not for Poland they can be sold off to Russia. They they are nice before they were arogant and cocky! I don't buy it!

Lithuania is part of Poland. When that is official will be better to all.

Unlike The Poles in Lithuania, I integrated.........

integrated? How could you

Tell me Milo, do you support raping of brat Walesa at London airport? What you feel about that tragic event? Any empathy?

Angles and Saxons as well as Danes were invaders and then Normans. Bretons were the orginal people there. They are living in France now - Bretons. Give them their land back and clear off to where you came from. If the first there matters so much to you! That only fair! If not - don't talk stupid.

Poles were settlers there - invited by the Grand Duchy to bust its economy, they build villages, towns and so on, before them there was a primodial forest.

The Grand Duchy was divided in three parts Lithunian speaking, Polish speaking and Belorusan Speaking.
Those claims by some minority to own Polish speaking part and call it all Lithunia is nosense. The real Lithuania should be something like Swiss country.

You foreginers don't understand nothing.

Celts actually.


My point exactly, if you go and make your home in a foreign country it is best to integrate.

Here in UK most immigrants have integrated by the third or fourth generation.

What is wrong with these Poles?

Do you understand what a setter is? They make their home as they created it, there but what came next it wasn't their counrty but some group uzurping power they do not have.


Look you are stupid. Are all Brits that dumb?

Not as dumb as those Lithuanians with ancient Polish ancestry.

Well you can have your opinion and you can wallow in it.
I'm looking to hear more from mafiketis to hear about those Brits in Poland that have a hard tiem ajusting.

Mainly what I remember was a kind of outraged incredulity about almost anything that was different from the UK (I remember one who was.... miffed that Polish kiosks weren't selling British brands of cigarettes... or another that British newspapers weren't available at every Ruch...

There was also a weird kind of perverse pride in not learning the language even after living in Poland for many years... (not sure why being helpless as an infant is something to be proud of, but..... whatever). Interestingly, despite our bad reputations IME Americans did much better with learning the language. At one point I knew about four Americans (none of whom had Polish ancestry) who all knew Polish well enough to deal with bureaucracy on their own without a translator and a similar number of Brits none of whom could say much more than 'dzień dobry pan'.... (yeah I know that's wrong - that's the point).

There were/are exceptions and I have known a few Brits who did learn Polish and adapted to local conditions. But the ones that didn't.... boy did they not....

Thank you!

Today Lithuanians celebrated their Restoration of the State Day. . During the ceremony, Polish jet fighters flew over the site to show respect for Lithuanian independence.

Well, rights of minorities are important but now we have to be united in the face of the Russian threat.

I don't think so.... you're talking about Poles in Lithuania as if they're immigrants, and they're not.

Minority politics are different from immigration politics. I don't think anyone's arguing that Poles in Lithuania don't have to learn Lithuanian and use it in certain contexts (of course they do) but that's the starting point of minority policy not the culmination.

Interestingly according to something I read a long time ago, when Lithuanian nationalism was being created they decided to follow (out of several possible models) the Serbian model which requires eternal enemies and Poland was chosen as it was seen as more of a threat to Lithuanian cultural identity. The alphabet was even reformed to make it less like Polish (taking in those Czech letters).

Yes, they still can`t forget how in the past their elites voluntarily chose Polishness as a much more attractive nationality.