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English Men vs Polish Men


missingfromheaven    
20 Aug 2006  #1
I am in a relationship with a Polish man who has just moved to England having worked for an English company for 23 years.

Over the years I have been engaged to an English man and an American man.

Polish men are so sincere, so thoughtful, so very romantic!! How refreshing it is to find a man who is so open and honest about his feelings and isn't afraid to share them with me.

He is a true gentleman. This is just wonderful!

English men are getting to be such a pain in the neck. They don't romance women any more. They invite you out to Dinner, or the Theatre - then expect you to pay for your own meals, tickets and drinks. What do they think it is!

If I invite a man out for Dinner, then I expect that I will pay for it. If I invite a men to the theatre then I will pay for the tickets.

English men are taking equality too far. They are just on the take for everything.

American men are slightly better with their manners than our English men, but are rapidly on the decline.
Al8    
20 Aug 2006  #2
Totally agree with you!
krysia 23 | 3,059    
20 Aug 2006  #3
I was married to an American. That was the biggest mistake in my life! I am now engaged to a Polish Dude.
Boy talking about two different sides of a spectrum:
Devil and Angel. Evil and Good.
Good thing my Polish Guy came along because I was getting to the point that all men are the same. And they are not.
I got a second chance in life with my Polish Man. My Angel.
iwona 12 | 542    
20 Aug 2006  #4
missingfromheaven,

I am married to Englishman but I think that he changed so much with me. He says that he is half-polish.

You are right about paying in restaurants, equality- But I am not so sure if it is only men to be blamed. Don't you think that English woman got so independent that they scare men? It is my impression.

I suppose my husband was not so bad. He always paid for me when we were dating.But it was more long -distance relationship for a while. I suppose if we were living both in England it would be nice if he paid for me from time to time but you can't expect man to pay always.
OP missingfromheaven    
20 Aug 2006  #5
My English boyfriend was a multi-millionaire - and he still never paid for me, not even a cup of coffee, in 7 years of a relationship.

English men are notoriously mean with money.

Yes, some English women are very independant, but a lot of us still hold old-fashioned values. I have always been independant money-wise but not emotionally.

Technically we don't need men any more. We can have babies via a sperm bank, we can look after ourselves emotionally, physically, materially.
giles    
21 Aug 2006  #6
Why should men pay for woman anyway, we should only pay for dinner if we're guaranteed a shag at the end of the night. You don't get anything for nothing in this world.:)
FISZ 24 | 2,117    
21 Aug 2006  #7
Technically we don't need men any more. We can have babies via a sperm bank, we can look after ourselves emotionally, physically, materially.

Who will carry the baby and all of those groceries? Who will open those impossible caps? Who will lift things that are heavier than you?

We don't need you either :)

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'We hope to create complete artificial wombs using these techniques in a few years,' said Dr Hung-Ching Liu of Cornell University's Centre for Reproductive Medicine and Infertility. 'Women with damaged uteruses and wombs will be able to have babies for the first time.'

LOL. Well, I love women so this would be out of the question for me. Kinda scary to think about what this world is coming to.

Realistically...we need each other :) That' nature
iwona 12 | 542    
21 Aug 2006  #8
My English boyfriend was a multi-millionaire - and he still never paid for me, not even a cup of coffee, in 7 years of a relationship.

English men are notoriously mean with money.

Yes, some English women are very independant, but a lot of us still hold old-fashioned values. I have always been independant money-wise but not emotionally.

Technically we don't need men any more. We can have babies via a sperm bank, we can look after ourselves emotionally, physically, materially.


I don't know if English men are more mean with money then polish?????
I think that it depends on person. I suppose that your millionaire boyfriend had some strange principles and maybe was a little mean?

I am thinking about men ( friends, coleagues) i knew in Poland and in England and don't see big difference.

I think what English men sometimes miss is some spontaneous romantism.

There is one thing here in England I don't understand so much. There are married couples who have one joint account where they both pay some money for bills, mortgage and remaining money they have in their own accounts for themself. What is it? business agreement that if they divorce split house in half? . My friend -polish was in relationship like this with her English husband. She thinks it wa ok.

I couldn't stand like this- since we married everything is ours - mot mine and yours.
Tlum    
21 Aug 2006  #9
My English boyfriend was a multi-millionaire - and he still never paid for me, not even a cup of coffee, in 7 years of a relationship.

English men are notoriously mean with money.

Hmm - what about Scottish men then? :)
OP missingfromheaven    
21 Aug 2006  #10
Iwona, you are so right! ROMANCE is what British men are missing!

Scottish, Welsh and Irish men are just as bad as the English with being mean - with money, with their time, with their heart.

The relationship gurus here say that we should run a marriage like running a business. The idea of two bank accounts with a joint account for bills, is supposed to stop arguments over who spends/wastes money on unnecessary items.

Similarly with divorce - here it is dealt with like dividing a business - equally. Unless the couple are Macca and Heather, of course. In that relationship Macca is tight as a drum and thinks that Heather shouldn't have a penny of it!
Shelley    
22 Aug 2006  #11
Okay here are two sides the coin, I went out on a date with a guy many years ago and he actually said to me before we went into the restaurant "okay if you're going to see me again I'll pay for your meal but if you dont intend going out again you can pay for your own" We were out with about 10 other couples and I was just stuned at such an attitude - well of course I said very sweetly (probably through gritted teeth) of course I'd like to see you again - I probably would have if he hadnt said that - needlesss to say - I ignored his calls.

The flip side to that is my x of 6 years was very kind when we went out he paid - yes we had a joint bank account and also had our own money - but he always paid - why am I not with him anymore - he was miserable and a bit lacking where doors should be opened, romance etc.....
OP missingfromheaven    
22 Aug 2006  #12
Shelley - you have raised another interesting point -

Have you noticed that men - of all ages - seldom bother to open doors for a woman any more?

In fact, the older the man the less likely they are to hold the door open.
bolo 2 | 304    
22 Aug 2006  #13
I used to open doors for a woman, but now I seldom do it because women are now in such competition with men that I feel opening a door for a woman would show my weakness.. :)
krysia 23 | 3,059    
22 Aug 2006  #14
I used to open doors for a woman, but now I seldom do it because women are now in such competition with men that I feel opening a door for a woman would show my weakness.. :)

Yup. The femminatzis.

Guys usually open doors for me and I really like it. It is a polite gesture and I feel special and treated with respect.
But it depends what you look like. If you're an attractive well-dressed woman, the guys usually open the door. But if you are a little bit on the fluffy side and not dressed so well - guys don't see you.

Of course, I'm not saying ALL guys are the same. (Don't want to get in trouble here), but I've noticed that gesture all over Europe and the US. And I don't blame any guy who doesn't open the door for a woman. If she barks at him and gives him a dirty look, no wonder he's afraid of the next woman comming along ready to bark at him.
bolo 2 | 304    
22 Aug 2006  #15
If a girl smiles at me then I feel "I may have a chance" so then yes, I will open/hold her the door :).
krysia 23 | 3,059    
22 Aug 2006  #16
SEE!!!!!!
You're not so bad.
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544    
22 Aug 2006  #17
If you're an attractive well-dressed woman, the guys usually open the door. But if you are a little bit on the fluffy side and not dressed so well - guys don't see you.

Beautiful people have much more easy in life, it's true. :) But when I open a door for a lady I honestly don't care if she is young or old, attractive or not. I also don't expect any reward for this. I do it just because I was raised that way and I think that it is the right thing to do. Of course, somehow, I find helping beautiful women more...ekhmmm...pleasing. :)

PS: Before going to the UK i had read an article in some polish newspaper warning polish men to think twice before offering their help to an English woman. The author explained, that English women are very independent and might consider this a very sexist gesture. In the end I found out that either the man that wrote this article had a bad luck or was just talking cr*p. :)
guess who    
22 Aug 2006  #18
I think Polish men can tap dance, British men can't, they considered it undignified.
Shelley    
23 Aug 2006  #19
Have you noticed that men - of all ages - seldom bother to open doors for a woman any more?

This is true, very ill mannered if you ask me!

Beautiful people have much more easy in life, it's true. But when I open a door for a lady I honestly don't care if she is young or old, attractive or not. I also don't expect any reward for this. I do it just because I was raised that way and I think that it is the right thing to do. Of course, somehow, I find helping beautiful women more...ekhmmm...pleasing.

Good manners cost nothing all women should be treated accordingly

PS: Before going to the UK i had read an article in some polish newspaper warning polish men to think twice before offering their help to an English woman. The author explained, that English women are very independent and might consider this a very sexist gesture. In the end I found out that either the man that wrote this article had a bad luck or was just talking cr*p.

He was talking rubbish - there are a few that like to take this whole independance thing to a silly level.. but in the main, women like men to act in gentlemanly fashion.

But it depends what you look like. If you're an attractive well-dressed woman, the guys usually open the door. But if you are a little bit on the fluffy side and not dressed so well - guys don't see you.

What rubbish if a man has manners and has been brought up well he will do this automatically not because of what someone looks like

Shelley, he wasn't from Pakistan was he?

Lef, you little monkey, I'm not biting - I really think it's time to bury the hatchet

I think good old Emily Pankhurst did some good, but the burn ya bra thing, no thanks, there are women who like to be treated like ladies still around - it's just difficult finding gentlemen, that's why there are so many single women in the UK - it's the lack of decent available straight normal men - maybe the English men could learn something from Polish men, please dont stop being gentlemen you're a dying breed.
OP missingfromheaven    
23 Aug 2006  #20
I met a friend of mine this afternoon, a lady who is in her 70's whom I had not seen for a while. I told her about my new Polish man and do you know what she said?

"Oh, Polish men are so romantic"

Well, mine most certainly is!

I found my wedding dress today!! I am ready for when he actually asks me the question! He has hinted at it many times so far, just not asked straight out!
Shelley    
23 Aug 2006  #21
found my wedding dress today!! I am ready for when he actually asks me the question! He has hinted at it many times so far, just not asked straight out!

missingfromheaven fairytale endings are the best - go for it, happiness is what makes the world a nice place to live in. Oh and if he has any nice single brothers let me know!
Decorator 4 | 291    
26 Aug 2006  #22
What did your last servant die of...... i only open doors if i'm going to get a free pint out of it....!!!
blur13    
30 Aug 2006  #23
My girlfriend is Polish and I'm English. I love her dearly, and was brought up to treat women with dignity and respect. Therefore I always open doors for her, take her chair out when we sit to eat, and at the same time, I am getting accustomed to her cultural way of doing things. Saying "smacznego" before every meal, "dziekuje" after we eat, and so on.

However, I like to think I am a very romantic guy, but my partner is not very romantic. She doesn't like soppy things (unlike me), but seems happy with me regardless of whether I'm Polish or English.

In the end, it seems to be the person's character, rather than their nationality, which dictates whether a girl (or boy) wants to stay with you or not.

I'm just looking forward to marrying her next year in Poland, and starting a new life for myself out there. :)
Shelley    
30 Aug 2006  #24
brought up to treat women with dignity and respect

and that's what sets you apart from a great number of English men
FISZ 24 | 2,117    
30 Aug 2006  #25
i'd open a door for a lady if she'd blow me off, seems only fair.

Being blown off is when a woman or anyone for that matter, makes plans with you and doesn't show up.

So, in this situation you'd hold the door? Very kind of ya.

I think doors should be held for anyone. It's just being polite.

And don't try to act so cool. I doubt that you really let the door slam in the face of your co-workers or your family members.

Get some respect. Chivalry is not dead :)
spam javlin    
30 Aug 2006  #26
No mate, Getting blown off is english slang for getting a blow job, you no like when the lady dines on the pork sword? Oral sex fella that's what i mean.

And as for respect i've got that much i've got to push it round in a wheel barrow... which i've had lowered and i've fitted a wide wheel to it. Its so street now man you'd love it.
iwona 12 | 542    
30 Aug 2006  #27
it would be very cheap and ugly womand to do it for you just for openning door:).
tammy    
31 Aug 2006  #28
I agree that polish men are so much better than english men, loads of reasons in fact too many to list lol
Wolfie 10 | 79    
2 Sep 2006  #29
As an Englishman i would like to say that you are putting us all in one catagory, and thats wrong. Myself personelly open doors for women and give my seat to a woman on a bus if need be. I have many times had abuse thrown at me from women, yeah i suppose women in UK are more independent than other countrys. But please dont do guys down saying who needs them anymore, because thats wrong, what would happen if in time the sperm banks dried up, then where would you be. I have travelled most of the world but not Poland, but i know quite a few Poles and yes they are nice people, but some guys in UK are slobs, but Poland might have some as well, so be fare.

I think im one of the good ones and when going out i paid for things, but we had one bank account and that was it, it was joint responsability and that were it.
FISZ 24 | 2,117    
13 Sep 2006  #30
BEING POLISH AND A BIT SLOW U WOULDNT GET THAT !!!

Well, I'm not in Poland. I'm very familiar with my own language and people don't usually abbreviate They're with there because it makes no sense.

by the way you spelled understand incorrectly.



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