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Degenerate "rainbow" eyesore to disappear from Saviour Square (Plac Zbawiciela) in Warsaw


jon357 66 | 13,338    
2 Sep 2015  #151
mpossible to build from an engineering standpoint at the site.

The Rainbow itself looks to be a fairly impressive piece of engineering - the picture on the sponsor's site looks great, however I agree that a double rainbow would have been too complicated. The colours look a little more muted than the installation that was in pl. Zbawiciela however that's appropriate to the residential location - I like the way they've used subtle lighting for the evenings.
OP Polonius3 1,008 | 12,508    
2 Sep 2015  #152
fairly impressive piece of engineering

So where's the link? Who's the sponsor?
jon357 66 | 13,338    
2 Sep 2015  #153
It's been approved in full and funding is guaranteed however as I'm sure you'll appreciate, the last thing they want is crowds of placard-waving moherowe berety getting involved. There's a sculptors' maquette made and some computer generated models - out there on the web if you use google properly.

Apparently they were preaching against the new rainbow from the pulpit this week - of course blaming the foreign influence. Basically railing about not only that one, but also the original one that was in Brussels and plac Zbawiciela being re-sited in a historically significant location
OP Polonius3 1,008 | 12,508    
4 Sep 2015  #154
preaching against the new rainbow

Good for them! All toxic symobls -- hammer & sickle, swastika, homo rainbow -- should be forcefully preached against. A petition drive may be needed to protect locals from some arty-farty installation by a group of interlopers, esp. if bankrolled by alien external forces. Maybe a reciprocal action could be arranged -- Stockholm gets a statue of Father Rydzyk in exchnage.
jon357 66 | 13,338    
4 Sep 2015  #155
Stockholm gets a statue of Father Rydzyk in exchnage.

They've never heard of him and don't care. Plenty of Warsaw people have heard of the rainbow as a symbol of diversity, inclusivity and hope and are happy to see it in the city.

People who want a Rydzyk statue can have that. As well. Just not in pl. Wilsona where most people would dislike it. Maybe Kozia Górka or somewhere.
delphiandomine 86 | 16,341    
4 Sep 2015  #156
Stockholm gets a statue of Father Rydzyk in exchnage.

Could be a great art installation :)

I imagine putting up a statue of a Polish and very right wing priest in the centre of Stockholm would be seen as very artistic there.
Polsyr 6 | 776    
4 Sep 2015  #157
great art installation

Especially if they color him like a rainbow!
jon357 66 | 13,338    
4 Sep 2015  #158
There's even a new Facebook group protesting about the rainbow. It would be a great shame if there was more trouble with extremists trying to set fire to it. The old one is going up in a fairly secure area so the new one is the worry.
InPolska 11 | 1,824    
4 Sep 2015  #159
When is the new Rainbow expected to be ready? It'll be nice in that area, adding more colors. I suppose that the area shall become gay friendly so a lot of gays shall settle down there, including opening cafés and other businesses. Very soon another trendy place in Warsaw :)
Imagroan    
4 Sep 2015  #160
Jon357, the 7 and 8 colored rainbow flags are a symbolism of Gay pride and have been since the 1970s in San Fran. Placing a symbol of Gay pride in front of the entrance to one of Warsaw's most important church's, is what it is a provocation. as for most people in Zoliborz not wanting a statue of a Polish religious leader near place Wilsona is more tosh. The north of Warsaw is far more active in their beliefs than the south, which is home to most of Warsaw's nouveau riche. Or the forgotten believers as they are known.

The fact there have been active demonstrations, related to the gay pride rainbow, only goes to show it was I'll thought through. It was only a number of left wing cafés around plac zaba who pushes as it was good for business.
OP Polonius3 1,008 | 12,508    
4 Sep 2015  #161
iversity, inclusivity

You missed the key component: diversity, inclusivity and perversion! The rainbow is a mislogo if there ever was one. If bent on invoking biblical themes the LGBTQ mob should use a flaming cityscape instead -- Sodom and Gomorrah ablaze in punishment for choosing sterile homosexual lust over God's plan for procreation.

new Facebook group

What's it called? Where does one sign?
jon357 66 | 13,338    
4 Sep 2015  #162
perversion!

homosexual lust

Only in your mind; most people are happy with the Polish Rainbow as a symbol of hope, etc. One reason why the plac Zabawiciela one and the new Rainbow are such a success.

What's it called? Where does one sign?

On Facebook - do you use it? Isn't it a bit 'pop culture' for you?
Polsyr 6 | 776    
4 Sep 2015  #163
The new rainbow will have an automatic fire suppression system. Due to its size, it is technically classified as a "building" and therefore must meet certain criteria, including safety regulations.

I mentioned earlier it will span 65 meters from end to it, and it will be large enough inside for a person to climb into it and walk across to the other side. The base dimensions are more than 2m x 2m but I don't have the exact number.

The sponsor will issue new 3D renderings soon hopefully.

They also plan to install colored LED lights (solar powered) so it remains illuminated day and night.
jon357 66 | 13,338    
4 Sep 2015  #164
Placing a symbol of Gay pride in front of the entrance to one of Warsaw's most important church's, is what it is a provocation

Rubbish. It isn't any sort of provocation and there isn't the entrance to any church there. Though there is on plac Zbawiciela and the Polish Rainbow put there for a year by the Adam Mickiewicz Institute was a success, despite the efforts of pond-dwelling villagers to vandalise it.

he north of Warsaw is far more

Clearly you don't know that bit of town very well. It's the home of the cultural elite - Warsaw's Hampstead.

install colored LED lights (solar powered)

Good it's renewable energy though I don't see how walking inside it would work unless they make pedestrian access to an already complicated traffic island. The maquette that was in the gallery didn't show that. Great idea though.
Polsyr 6 | 776    
4 Sep 2015  #165
walking inside

It will not be accessible to the public, only for maintenance volunteers.
Imagroan    
4 Sep 2015  #166
Jon357, I have one name to mention - The martyr Fr. Jerzy Popieluszko killed in 1984, over 250,000 people mourned his passing in Zoliborz, close by plac Wilson. Many off the cultural elite in Zoliborz attended that service, so stop with the smoke and mirrors.
jon357 66 | 13,338    
4 Sep 2015  #167
The entrance to that church is not in plac Wilsona, and a church entrance more than 100 yards away is neither here nor there. It certainly isn't any reason to stop the rainbow. Clearly you don't know the area quite as well as you'd like. And doubtless "many of the cultural elite" attended his sermons 30+ years ago, 'guest poster' and that is equally no reason

I repeat, the Polsih Rainbow that was in plac Zbawiciela, the one which represented Poland in Brussels during the presidency of the European Council, was also near the entrance to a church. This one however is not

And that is neither here nor there. The rainbow is a symbol of hope, inclusion and diversity - and people liked it
OP Polonius3 1,008 | 12,508    
4 Sep 2015  #168
impressive piece of engineering

Here's a nice photo of the Zbawiciela piece of engineering:

impressive piece of engineering:

facebook.com/search/str/T%C4%99cza%20Warszawska%20w%20p%C5%82omieniach/keywords_top
InPolska 11 | 1,824    
5 Sep 2015  #169
I have seen the new Rainbow (on the net). It sure does look impressive. It looks like it's going to be so huge so it'll be seen from very far away. Why in that area? I expect the area was chosen maybe because most people living there are more tolerant than the average Varsovian/Pole, aren't they? If so not much fear to have it attacked by b####ts.

It does look very nice indeed but my concern is its financing. If much public money is to be involved, I'm not sure I'll be in favor of project because needless to say I'd rather have my tax ZL go to priorities (schools, health, transportation, helping those in bad need...).
jon357 66 | 13,338    
5 Sep 2015  #170
As far as I know, it won't cost the taxpayer a penny to install.
InPolska 11 | 1,824    
5 Sep 2015  #171
@Jon: if no public money involved, so much the better! :) But, what about protection? Do you think cops shall be needed or shall cameras be installed? I have heard that in said area people are kind of ... broad minded but extremists could easily come from other parts.

Well, it'll look nice and at night with all the colored lights on, it'll look brilliant :

When is it supposed to be finalized?
jon357 66 | 13,338    
5 Sep 2015  #172
But, what about protection? Do you think cops shall be needed or shall cameras be installed? I have heard that in said area people are kind of ... broad minded but extremists could easily come from other parts.

There's an unfortunate amount of graffiti already in the area (same with plac Zbawiciela) and for some reason Poland doesn't have the same sort of law as the UK (has to be removed within 72 hours or within 24 hours if offensive). I would think that any vandalism would be dealt with and there's already a police presence in the area. The Polish Rainbow did attract problems from extremists however it attracted much more support and I would hope this would be the case here.

Well, it'll look nice and at night with all the colored lights on, it'll look brilliant :

A Rainbow will brighten up the square which always looks bland and windswept. there have been discussions about it for years - a statue wouldn't suit, since they can't site anything centrally die to the tram lines.
Polsyr 6 | 776    
5 Sep 2015  #173
The project is 100% financed by a private Swedish entity. Maintenance will be conducted by volunteers (including me) and energy (for lighting and pumps) will come entirely from renewable resources. Meaning ZERO cost to taxpayer on both short and long term.

In terms of protection, I mentioned earlier a system that sprays vandals with fluorescent colorful paint, and I wasn't kidding. It will also alert the police upon unauthorized access. There is also an automatic sprinkler system for fire suppression.

You have to understand the size of this thing to appreciate how grand it will be. It will be as tall as 20-floor building!
delphiandomine 86 | 16,341    
5 Sep 2015  #174
Polsyr, I saw an article in the paper here about that protection system. If I understood it correctly, the paint is similar to the ink that they use on those bank robbery systems - it doesn't wash off easily?
InPolska 11 | 1,824    
5 Sep 2015  #175
@Polsyr: as high as a 20-floor-building? It'll be seen from anywhere in Warsaw

@Delph: great idea so not hard to find the vandals! ;)

@Jon: most of the year, it's so grey here, with hardly any artificial light that bright colored lights as provided by the rainbow shall only be positive. I'm sure the area's inhabitants shall be happy......
jon357 66 | 13,338    
5 Sep 2015  #176
I think that's why they chose the site - the same with plac Zbawiciela. Needing brightening up.
Polsyr 6 | 776    
5 Sep 2015  #177
similar to the ink that they use on those bank robbery systems - it doesn't wash off easily?

Yes, and in antitheft tags in stores as well. It is very persistent and won't wash off for days.

as high as a 20-floor-building? It'll be seen from anywhere in Warsaw

That's correct :)
InPolska 11 | 1,824    
5 Sep 2015  #178
@Random: I have checked and yes, it is true! Amazing!

@Polsyr; it seems to be like that ink used in "underdeveloped" countries when elections. Voters have to dip their thumbs in such ink so they won't vote several times ;). In terms of the Rainbow, it sure shall help the police..
Polsyr 6 | 776    
5 Sep 2015  #179
help the police

Well in terms of every drunk, degenerate, ultranationalist, neonazi, homophobe, xenophobe and loser hitting the rainbow before they commit more serious crimes, then sure, they will be attracted to the rainbow like moths to the flame. The police should just wait for them around the corner and sort them out.
OP Polonius3 1,008 | 12,508    
5 Sep 2015  #180
as tall as 20-floor building

Tell it to the horse marines!




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