Degenerate "rainbow" eyesore to disappear from Saviour Square (Plac Zbawiciela) in Warsaw

@Pol: when you leave the Church and turn left into the narrower (than Marszałkowska) street (I don't know its name), right at the corner, you have that café ;). There is no delikatessy there (or wasn't last week when I was there)

Is the Methodist English School still there?

I googled and found that the arcaded buildsings are still there with all thsoe columns. You can't miss them. Maybe there are other there than before:

Google (images): Plac Zbawiciela galeria

Yes, they are all 1950s examples of socialist realist architecture. The pre-war buildings are shown in the photos above.

You're confusing it, Po3. That building is on ul. Mokotowska. It's wedge shaped and only the corner has access to plac Zbawiciela. It is also not arcaded at all.

The arcaded buildings you refer to near the site of the lovely rainbow are, like most of the square, 1950s.

Puke-coloured monstrosity, you mean! At least now locals and passers-by can breathe some fresh air without wretching form nausea.

The rainbow of broken dna is gone now. Perhaps we can close the topic.

Just like the swastika once symbolised the sun but was hijacked by the Nazis, so too the rainbow now symbolises first and foremost sodomy, pure and simple! You don't think the godless jons and Harries and Delphs of this world would be making such a fuss about any Christian symbol. But they'll give their left arm for the pervert cause.

Wow, Polonius... you genuinely think about sodomy when you see a rainbow?

I mean, I think "the rain is over", sometimes "ahh, beautiful" and occasionally "life is wonderful". I don't think I've ever once associated rainbows with sodomy.

The rainbow nowadays is universally associated with the homo movement.
Hey, hold on, now you're talking about high spirits when you see a rainbow. Yesterday you were falling into a biblical orgasm and pious paranoia at the same sight. Strange init?

Exactly. A a rainbow is a symbol of inclusiveness and a truly positive thing.

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This is not true in the case, I would guess, of 99.9% of the world's population. Perhaps more.

Wasn't Harry or one of his toadies erroneously claiming there were no arcades in Pl. Zbawiciela? Your photo shows them to be alive and well on both sides of the square.

I stated that the buildings with colonnades on pl. Zbawiciela are socialist realist structures from the 1950 and they clearly show that you were very simply lying, yet again, when you claimed that pl. Zbawiciela "miraculously escaped wartime destruction", just as you were lying when you claimed that the Rainbow was guarded round the clock by riot police and attack dogs. As I showed in my post full of photos of pre-WWII pl. Zbawiciela, the buildings on pl. Zbawiciela before WWII did not have colonnades.

Anyway, let's all look forward to the new rainbow on Pl. Wilsona :)

I am designing an anti vandalism system that will spray vandals with highly persistent, fluorescent-multicolored paint from head to toe.

So, unless you wanna look like a walking rainbow, don't even think about it :)

Quite. Too much irrelevant and inaccurate polemics from Po3 about how old the buildings are in pl. Zbawiciela. For the record, they are mostly 1950s with a few badly restored remnants of older buildings (you can see this behind Corso), plus that church which has a much greater street frontage on Marszalkowska. It is grey, dreary architecture (including the church) and that site was selected by the Adam Mickiewicz Foundation because it badly needed brightening up. Which it certainly was.

The new rainbow (in pl. Wilsona) is going there because it's an underused and windswept space with tram lines making it hard to use the bits of grass in the middle for much else. Plus the rather plain early-30s buildings around need a lift. A nice bit of serendipity that the old cinema on the north side of the square is called Kino Tęcza (The Rainbow Cinema).

And what better to brighten somewhere up than a rainbow. Colourful, inclusive, a symbol of the storm clouds passing and a new hope.

It's not on the north side or any side of Wilson Square. Kino Tęcza is tucked away in a little side street and only those in the know are even aware it's there. That is good to know because if there really are deebs planning to reintall that nauseating bit of kitsch, the avergae passer-by and tube passenger will not be forced to view it.

The municipal dump still seems a more proper site.

Do excuse - I mean the Kino Wisła. Though the project does have some connection with the Tęcza and the Trzyrecze people.

It isn't the same rainbow installation being placed there (it's in the middle, by the way) - that is being re-erected elsewhere in central Warsaw. The place Wilsona one is by the same Polish artist and is larger, due to the larger site and the need to span the tram lines.

I heard that the new rainbow will be several times the size, though that's probably an exaggeration. It needs to be big enough to clear the tram lines and it's a more complicated junction than pl. Zbawiciela so it will have to have a larger span. I was having a look the other day and trying to figure out which way they will orient it in relation to play Wilsona - probably with the ends of the rainbow standing east and west. Whatever happens, it won't be the same rainbow which is going up somewhere near £azienki Park.

And following the huge success of the rainbow so far (exhibited in 2 Polish cities and in Brussels), the Mickiewicz Foundation are apparently commissioning more works similarly on a theme of diversity, inclusion and hope.

Wrong nouns! It should read -- motley hotch-potch, degeneration and dispair.

If you fancy being an art critic, commentating on hugely popular works of modern art, like the Polish Rainbow, I suggest not giving up your day job.

And I can't wait until the new, much bigger one, comes.

I can already see the pervs linking hands and dancing round the rainbow. But don't hold your breath. When PiS take office such nonsense will be severely curtailed, and rightly so!

Really? Nobody else can.


Public art in Warsaw squares isn't a central government issue. The fact that the city has chosen not only to site the original rainbow somewhere much visited as well as commission a more permanent structure to brighten up another location is a very positive sign.

When a higher good is at stake -- in this case preventing public depravation -- where there's a will there's a way.
At a time when the nation needs to work towards unity in line with the saying: "Zgoda buduje, niezgoda rujnuje"*, the unsavoury Saviour Square incident simply polarised public opinion.

It was a waste of taxpayer money in terms of repeated renovations and the security measures deployed, and its only redeeming feature was that it allowed hacks to produce their typical media circus.

There you go again, trying to force your view of morality on society.


The forces of Ciemnogrod didn't manage to get rid of the Rainbow either by force or by any other means - in fact its new site is in a historically significant location, and they haven't managed to stop the new one either, so good luck with that.

God save us from jon's version of Jasnogród!

Well, light is always better than darkness, inclusivity better than inclusion and diversity better than monotony. Hence the beautiful symbol of the Polish Rainbow, exhibited in plac Zbawiciela, in Brussels and soon to be in its new home.

The new rainbow at pl. Wilsona will built within the roundabout and span 65 meters from North East to the South West, and reach a height of 65 meters at its peak (meaning perfect half circle). They already surveyed the location, and the foundations (which will be concrete, meaning permanent) are under design.

With a peak height of 65 meters, the new rainbow will be easily visible from ground level as far as pl. Inwalidów, ks. Popiełuszki, Metro Marymont and Centrum Olimpijskie, and it will be visible from rooftops as far as 2-3 kilometers away. Hurray Warsaw!!!

That's massive - I was guessing the Rainbow would be more like 65 feet. I'm not sure it'll be visible from Centrum Olimpijskie (except maybe from the restaurant on the roof) but it's still huge - a symbol of hope and a sign of how Warsaw has risen from the ashes, or more so that the sun's come out after the rain. And the plac Zbawiciela one is supposed to be going up in the grounds of the Centrum Sztuk Nowoczesniej near Lazienki Park.

And an amusing thing is that Jaro will see the new one every day on his way to the sejm - I wonder if he'll get his driver to go the long way round...

It will be visible from the street level at the intersection :)

Maybe some thoughtful and generous soul will set up a billboard to hide it from view. That would merit a state decoration. If not, then puke bins will still be needed for hapless passengers emerging form the tube.

That would need 2 billboards each 65m x 65m = 4225 square meters. Impossible to build from an engineering standpoint at the site.


I think the only one who needs a bin is you sir :) There are neat portable ones, fondly called nocnik in Poland. Grab one and carry it along since so many things seem to make you puke these days.