Single mothers in Poland

If that were true, wouldn't single mothers (and other people who you seem to think suffer from heartbreak, misery and loneliness) be reaching in their thousands for the opium of the people? But isn't the reality is that church attendance is falling to all-time lows? Perhaps single-parent families are not as heartbroken, miserable and lonely as you would have us believe.

That would have been entirely impossible. The mother would have had childcare duties which would have restricted her movements, leaving the man to do everything else. It should be obvious than clans and the division of labour were the solution. Until recent times, in anthropological terms, the optimum size of a group was two thousand, above which number the group would split.

But they are! Todays' opium of the people is commerpop -- that cheap, tacky and all-pervasive commercialised pop culture: Hollywood, celebrity tabloids, steamy soap operas, commercialised sports, Reality TV, internet porn, dopalacze and other recreational substances - the whole shebang. Something for every brainless sucker!

Back to the topic please

Actually the very high level of mortality of women in childbirth meant that multi-generational and extended family units in which children had only their fathers and not their mothers were depressingly commonplace until the 20th century in even wealthy countries.

Likewise hunting, wars, starvation and sickness could kill men, forcing women to live without their mates and children without their fathers.

The nuclear family may always have been an aspiration, but it reached its zenith as a reality in the 1960s, as early mortality waned and divorce and elective single parenthood hadn't yet become widespread.

Nope, you are presenting ideological bias here and as such it has little to do with real life.


I'm not talking about gender here, I'm saying that anyone with a choice, choosing to be a single parent is proving to be mentally unstable and as such unfitted to fulfill role of a parent.

Being a single parent should be presented for what it really is, i.e. an unfortunate occurrence due to bad luck or poor life choices. Instead it is being used by social justices warriors to convince public that all models of a family are equally good and suitable for bringing up children.

Precisely. Exceptions can be found to any rule, but by and large the tradiotnal family comprising married parents and their children is the best possible setting for chidlren to grow up in.

The counter-culture types wil immediately chime in with useless anecdotal evidence -- of the "my neighbour is always drunk and beats his wife and kids" variety or "this gay couple next door with two rent-a-uterus kids is a loving, happy family."

Even if true, it is still anecdotal and by no means not normative.
The fact remains that non-conventional households are more prone to break-up, substance abuse, domestic violence and other forms of instability. Ample evidence has already been provided.

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Never Married Single Mothers & Reputation in Poland

This is a cultural, not judgmental question. If a woman is 30, never married but is a single mother from a messed up relationship, and she does not have 100% custody of her only child and desires to get married, do Polish men and their families tend to judge negatively? Would the men's parents recommend that their Polish son go find a single woman with no children? Do most Polish men prefer to date a woman with no child and not assume problems with the girl's ex, etc? Are there prejudices against single mothers? Does she have a better chance with older polish men? or foreign men to marry?

Although many things change (mainly in the big city) Poles are religious and family oriented so yes I think you would have to look a little to find a man who accepts this situation. Plus Poles get married early so a man in your age or older has probably been married / had a long relationship and you would also have to consider an ex wife and children on the scene.

For the family, even if there are reservations, they will probably ignore because the happiness of seeing the relative finally get married will be greater.

Just one advice: in a society where people get married early, investigate well to find out why that person is older and single. This can mean a troubled person who over the years has had several failed relationships or can be a traitor.

So in my opinion you would have more chances with divorcees or someone much older who is desperate to find someone, people from big cities tend to be more open-minded. Foreigners from countries where people marry late / divorce is common you would be better accepted.

What's in it for the man to wife up a single mother? Men and women gets married for different reasons. If a provider male cannot have his own family then for what he worked all his life to become who he is today? just to take care of another man's family? This is a dysfunctional setup.

If you think in purely biological terms- yes. But not all people do.

Yes, there are "other" reasons as well... example being immigrants looking to get inside EU.. or maybe a compromised beta male having less options etc... They don't seem to last long either because of hypergamy.

If that helps you sleep at night...

Lol.. emotions can lie but the data does not lie :) But, I understand your point.. same reason why millions visit the Vegas every year even though the odds are clear.

Perhaps he's a single father?


Someone cuckolded by their wife?

What data is that?

It's a bad deal even for a single father. She and her kid would always come first and not he or his kids. I would personally hire a nanny instead.


Lol.. man desperate for female attention as in a simp.

And why would a women marry a single dad?

First Marriage divorce probability - 45%
Second marriage - 67%
Third Marriage - 74%
If child from previous relation is involved at any stage - 90%

The data is collected from people who thought they would beat the odds.

If I had 90% odds in Vegas, I would empty my bank and go all in and beat Bezos to become the riches man... lol

Well then all the people who have kids from earlier relationship should stay single forever? Is that what you are saying?
Btw, could I see that data?

im gonna for sure stay single forever. to tell the truth ive never been in a real or serious relationship my entire life and Im 35 now.

is it? It sounds a good fit.


And vice versa. There are thousands, if not millions, of blended families round the world. Most of them work.


It does look that way.

Because Man and Woman marry for different reasons :). Man is the provider, he is expected to bring food and provide shelter. Reward = Motivation. Without it nothing can sustain long term.

Oh sorry, I didn't realise I'm talking with someone from the middle ages

Where are you from, out of curiosity? I'm wondering if you have a different cultural background to us.

I read it sometime ago so don't have all the links saved up but you can research it yourself.

This is a good start... wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/


I'm from the US so indeed different cultural background. Here, we have lots of blended families... yet, numbers don't lie :)


I'm sure we all here are under 100 years of age... humanity existed for more than 200,000 years. So many of our western countries are having demographics problem for a reason...