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Racism in Poland - the future


Ironside 50 | 12,461
19 Aug 2023 #331
Whether you like it or not, racism still exists in Poland

Good. Dude, you are missing the big point I made here. Racistm be as it is in Poland or elsewhere, that not a point, I'm saying that examples of agression against people with different skin colour as reported in the Polish langauge press could be oft made up.

They made it up by some orgniztaions in Poland who gets money for standing against facistm/racist what have you - that is their buissens and they have been caught i n the past on manufaturing facist or racist messages to show they are needed and they are doing their job.

or A certain leading newpaper made up a whole article about 14 year old girl who was raped, get preg, and died beocuse of so called oppressive laws in Poland.

They need it to translete into English and show they progressive buddies in the west that women have no co called rights in Poland.
Other benefit, it give so called oppostion fuel to attack abortions law in Poland.
The truth is there is no such a law that would stop such a case from getting an abortion in Poland and the other fact that had been checked there was no such a case or such a 14 years old girl in whole Poland.

What I'm saying one need to be carefull feeding from news. Got it now?
Novichok 3 | 7,872
19 Aug 2023 #332
racism still exists in Poland and in many other countries too.

So what? Why is "racism" bad? Do you think blacks in Zimbabwe like whites among them?
Or in Niger...I hope people in Niger will slaughter every white scumbag to send that long-overdue message: Africa is for Africans. White scum get out or die...

I wish white Euros would do the same in reverse.
pawian 224 | 24,473
19 Aug 2023 #333
They made it up by some orgniztaions in Poland

Iron, don`t be silly. Nothing is made up. You can see photos of beaten victims and hear their story.

What I'm saying one need to be carefull feeding from news

What you suggest is that we mustn`t comment on those racist attacks in Poland coz we need to be careful. Iron, did you drop from the moon??? :):):)

Whether you like it or not, racism still exists in Poland and in many other countries too.

Exactly. Putting the head in the sand like a fekking ostrich won`t help Ironside and his ilk.
Alien 20 | 5,244
19 Aug 2023 #334
hope people in Niger will slaughter every white scumbag

They'd probably eat them. 🍖
Feniks
19 Aug 2023 #335
you are missing the big point I made here.

I'm not. I've noticed many times before that if anyone criticises Polish people, no matter the topic, you will always refute any allegations of wrongdoing. This is just another example. I'm not suggesting that Poles are inherently racist, just that every country has its share of racists and bigots, my own included. Did you even read any of the articles I linked to?

Why is "racism" bad?

Go ask someone on the receiving end of it.
Alien 20 | 5,244
19 Aug 2023 #336
just that every country has its share of racists and bigots

If every country has it, then you can talk about a normal level of racism in every country. Therefore, the only question that remains is whether racism in Poland is greater than in other neighboring countries?
Ironside 50 | 12,461
19 Aug 2023 #337
if anyone criticises Polish people,

In comparisons to what ideal, utopia or standard? Based on what? Articles? Following a fad BS like LGBT crap?

I refute it because there is no valid points. Some opinions voiced by ignorant people who ask why you are not following current main stream BS in this or that, that is prevalent in my country...

Come one if someone doesn't even know Polish lingo well enough - what he or she can say - only nonsene.,

Those people in 95% don't know what they are talking about.
And there few progressive idiots in Poland and they jump on it and say yes yes that true we love to be parrots and we love to lick any stupid bum from the west, that make as feel better. so we can sh't on our own people ....

there sick people like that everywhere

Those two examples I have given you of fake news and lies - are factual. That what happended.
I never said anything about examples you quoted. I don't know if they are based on facts or not/ They as well might be....as I said that not my point!

As for racistm in Poland. I don't give F. !!!
All people are racist all over the glob to a lesser or a bigger extend.
That is life. Poles are not that bad in that regard.
jon357 74 | 22,675
19 Aug 2023 #338
Therefore, the only question that remains is whether racism in Poland is greater than in other neighboring countries?

I'd say that the real question is how any given society is coming to terms with it and tackling it.
pawian 224 | 24,473
19 Aug 2023 #339
if anyone criticises Polish people, no matter the topic, you will always refute any allegations of wrongdoing.

On the one hand, it is reproachable, indeed, coz Iron rejects facts which took place.
On the other hand, being a nationalist, he vowed to defend Poland and Poles against all attacks. To his mind, Poles are perfect and Poland is immaculate. :):):)

I refute it because there is no valid points

I see. Broken jaws and noses and black eyes as a result of racist attacks are not valid.
Novichok 3 | 7,872
19 Aug 2023 #340
I am willing to bet that Swedes had this same kind of stupid woke conversation when the first load of Somali garbage arrived.
"It's not nice to be a racist. No way. We are good people. Please...Welcome to our little heaven..."

Instead of staying at the bottom of the list, today, Sweden is near the top of the rapiest countries on earth. Serves you right, a-holes...
pawian 224 | 24,473
19 Aug 2023 #341
Please, no "equal" crap. Nothing is ever equal in nature.

Nope. We can always achieve our fave balance of nature.
Novichok 3 | 7,872
19 Aug 2023 #342
Balance means no movement. Not equal.
Nothing is ever equal.
pawian 224 | 24,473
19 Aug 2023 #343
Balance means no movement

Of course there is movement or progress. Balanced nature thrives. When you disrupt the balance, everything goes to the dogs. Do you know why people in certain rural area had to stop producing honey after they got rid of all cats??? Did you learn about it at primary school like I did????
Novichok 3 | 7,872
19 Aug 2023 #344
Before we switch to cats, how about those stupid Swedes and Somalis?
Ironside 50 | 12,461
19 Aug 2023 #345
Before

I think I know what you harking for - you should read this as a balm for your soul.
John C. Calhoun, "Slavery as a Positive Good," 1837
Miloslaw 20 | 4,801
19 Aug 2023 #346
From my experience,Poles tend to be racist.But once exposed to other races, which they are not really in Poland, they generally change their perspective.

This is true for most East Europeans.
jon357 74 | 22,675
19 Aug 2023 #347
But once exposed to other races, which they are not really in Poland, they generally change their perspective.

That's mostly what I see.

Things go through the stages, forming, storming, norming and performing. Migration into Poland from places far outside is new, still only just forming and not even at the Alf Garnett stage yet.
Ironside 50 | 12,461
19 Aug 2023 #348
Is that a soul searching exercise? Racism as a sin or something like that? I mean, maybe you people should have a different vocation?
Like a preacher or a monk or a priest? You could dwell on it to your satisfation...solving deep moral issues.
In reality there are laws that do not let people commiting crimes and if they do comitt a crime there is the police that get them and put them in front of a judge for their punishment.

If they commited a crime due to being stupid, greedy, racist shouldn't make a difference, and if it does it doesn't make that much of a difference.

I think the problem is in your nature, you should have been preachers.
jon357 74 | 22,675
19 Aug 2023 #349
Racism as a sin

If anything's a sin, it's racism.

I once asked a (very traditional and rather old-fashioned) Catholic parish priest what the worst sin was. His answer: racism.

In reality there are laws that do not let people commit crimes

Yet those laws only exist because people do commit crimes.
Novichok 3 | 7,872
20 Aug 2023 #350
Racism is good.

There were thousands of women who would rather die than say that. Because they didn't agree with me, they were raped, murdered, or both. Sometimes in reverse order.

I wonder if they still felt the same way about racism as they were taking their breath while looking at the face of the black pos who was squeezing the life out of them.

Avoidance racism is actually better than carrying a gun.

Polish racists are right.
Feniks
20 Aug 2023 #351
I don't know if they are based on facts or not/

Ok, have it your own way. Those people mentioned in the articles somehow managed to miraculously injure themselves! There's no racism in Poland and everything in the garden is rosy😉.

As for racistm in Poland. I don't give F. !!!

Why bother commenting in this thread then.

To his mind, Poles are perfect and Poland is immaculate. :):):)

That's about the size of it.
Ironside 50 | 12,461
20 Aug 2023 #352
If anything's a sin, it's racism.

Do I question it? That is not the point. OK, it is my fault for not making it more clear.
Lets try it this way:
The way this topic is being debated makes no deeper sense. Because law regulate those issues, you can't freely attack, assult a person for whatever reason.

Except in a self-defence.
That the rules, that the law and that a standard in the society.
Those people who break such rules and laws are called crminals or thugs or anti-social. They are no general population today within european culture which would condone such acts, That goes without saying.

People that post here including OP have been buliding a strowman in their mind, like there are this 'oldright' myth about racist masses of white males just waiting to enslave or kill all different racises - so along this lines.

So, from a start they are combative, because they build they argument or their stance for a better word - on a false fundation, on a virtural reality if I may use that expression in this context.

Next the way you all debate about racism, is like preachers or ministers talk about sins, dogmas and so on...
There is nothing you can do in a partical sense in the real world to tackle as you say racism, tools and laws are already in place.

You can only work on attuite of the populace. That is a preacher job.
I think however that people at least in Poland have a low tolarence toward violence and even lower toward violence motivated by racism.
Hence all above debate I view as stupid, pointless as only opportunity for few a-holes with their ego too big to sh't on others, namly the poor Polish hard working people who tend to their familes and men no harm to others.

That is what I meant posting - I don't give a F about rascim.

By the way IF racism is a sin what moral code or what dogmas you take it from? Is there anything else considered a sin in that moral code you adhere to? or you just used it because it siuts?
Ironside 50 | 12,461
20 Aug 2023 #353
There's no racism in Poland and everything in the garden is rosy

I have given you a lot of space here.On the assumption that you are not another narrow minded stupid sh't head on a mission.

Well, you proved me wrong. So, don't feel too bad for getting what you deserve, OK?

Where did I say? huh? Show me my post where I do claim that...IF not just addmit you are a filthy liar! that what you are!

Why bother commenting in this thread then.

What are forums for? For a debate, for a peoper debate you need all spectrum of opinions, those who don't give a F, included, you need to know that there are people like that out there, and how would you know if nobody would have told you?

So rather then spew such a dumb slogan, use your flat grey matter to think for once in your life...it it there for a reason.....

gees those avarage people, sheeply who belive to be special, who feeds your egos fools?
amiga500 4 | 1,511
20 Aug 2023 #354
for standing against facistm/racist what have you - that is their buissens and they have been caught

The more fascism, anti-Semitism and 'racism' in Poland they find, the more funding they get. So then plastering small country towns with LGBTIQ3433P+ Free Zone stickers becomes the logical thing to do.

If anything's a sin, it's racism.

Stop being so damm clerical, religous. Do you believe in original sin btw? ie white privilege.

Racism as a sin or something like that? I mean, Like a preacher or a monk or a priest?

Very Well said, i guess the souless marxists and newly born woke need a replacement for Christianity.
jon357 74 | 22,675
20 Aug 2023 #355
Do you believe in original sin btw? ie white privilege

Original sin, no. White privilege yes. It's very real.
Feniks
20 Aug 2023 #356
Where did I say? huh? Show me my post where I do claim that

I did not say that you said that. What you did say is this:

"They made it up by some orgniztaions in Poland who gets money for standing against facistm/racist what have you" and this " examples of agression against people with different skin colour as reported in the Polish langauge press could be oft made up.".

You are suggesting that the articles I linked to are untrue and in response I flippantly said that there is no racism in Poland. My personal opinion is that you cannot be objective when it comes to the misdeeds of your fellow countrymen.

you are not another narrow minded stupid sh't head on a mission.

Well, you proved me wrong.

Then comes your predictable nasty response.
Novichok 3 | 7,872
20 Aug 2023 #357
How about defining "racism" first? Duh!
Racism can be 100 different things. We have 100 genders.
pawian 224 | 24,473
20 Aug 2023 #358
On the assumption that you are not another narrow minded stupid sh't head on a mission.

hey, nazionalistische liar, when Feniks or Paulina say that you are wrong, then it is high time you sat down and reconsidered your pathetic life. Practically all your input here, Iron, is lies and denials of established facts.
Ironside 50 | 12,461
20 Aug 2023 #359
White privilege yes.

I thought you are too smart to buy into it.
pawian 224 | 24,473
20 Aug 2023 #360
How about defining "racism" first?

Most cases of racism in Poland occur when an aggressive white male, sometimes female, from Poland attacks another person, mostly darskinned, for being an intruder, alien, foreigner, stranger etc. .


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