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Poland economy is slowing down - how does it affect you?


Cali - | 56
5 Jan 2013 #91
hey ironside,

Am afraid pawian is right. Poland's plants I mean pretty much all mfg was not up to the world's standards. There was a piece in The Economist was back saying it would make more sense to get rid of those smoke stacks cuz 1) they were very ineffective and 2) pollutants (the Southern Poland, e.g., Katowice has had one of the highest lung cancer cases and TB was rampant). There was very little industrial export, except agricultural goods, cuz of the quality of products made in those plants. Fiats (Fix it again Tony, as we call here) were exported only to Libya. Even the shipyards were not that efficient to compete w/ the Koreans, the Brazilians or even the Japanese (who were bumped off by the Koreans later, who now are screaming about the Chinese). To be honest, not putting Poland down, but she couldn't under the commies make any decent products to compete against the West. Thats why lotta factories havbeen sitting as no one wants to buy them, again, cuz it would be more cost efficient to just demolish them and then build something else. You gotta understand that the market forces are very brutal, just look at Yorkshire, which used to be a mighty mfg place, but now it's a pretty much rundown city.
Ironside 48 | 9,848
5 Jan 2013 #92
Am afraid pawian is right

Well do you have any prove? In form of throughout research?If not you are not in positions to claim anything.
As for your examples - I'm not saying that everything was top world class but neither everything was a worthless junk.

Even the shipyards were not that efficient

Actually they were efficient enough.

she couldn't under the commies make any decent products to compete against the West.

actually she could - like optical fiber, and some high tech items and

That is only few but I haven't even researched it properly. However if somebody wants to claim that 90% of Poland's industry was a worthless junk he better provide some prove.

You gotta understand that the market forces are very brutal, just look at Yorkshire, which used to be a mighty mfg place, but now it's a pretty much rundown city.

Wasn't gov done all the dirty job for so called the market forces?Fat cats and some behind the scene manipulation ain't appeal to me as something inevitable and good.
Cali - | 56
5 Jan 2013 #93
Well do you have any prove?

Here's a link countrystudies.us/poland/ and the common theme about the Polish industry under the Communist Party is... "encouraged inefficient and low-quality production that discouraged trade with the rest of the world..." or "the continued existence of inefficient state enterprises lowered productivity significantly." On top of that, I mentioned The Economist, but you need to google to find the piece...

Btw, I was not aware that Poland had a "hi-tech" industry w/ fiber optics (I guess in its infancy). But btwn me n you if you mentioned that here, most people will giggle...It's like saying Poland had tanks to face the Germans in 1939. The overwhelming majority in the West, including the US, wouldn't believe you as their perception of the Poles is based on documentaries showing the Polish Army on horses charging the Germans tanks. Sadly, these are the facts n perception n you have to shrugem off n move forward! Like I said the current gov't MUST clean up corruption and nepotism. Dunno maybe look at the S'pore blueprint when they cleaned up their corruption back in the 60s...Well, gotta go now...
gumishu 11 | 5,017
5 Jan 2013 #94
Katowice has had one of the highest lung cancer cases and TB was rampant)

tuberculosis is not much affected by pollution from what I can gather - and there are anti tb jabs in Poland
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
9 Jan 2013 #95
Unemployment has reached 13% in December.
pantsless 1 | 267
9 Jan 2013 #96
It'll hit 14% by April but then drop to 13% again during the summer season and then rise up to 15 or 16% come November.

It's like saying Poland had tanks to face the Germans in 1939

It's like saying Germany had a bunch of tanks in 1939 though. Not talking about misconceived stereotypes, but the general frame of reference.


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