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Am I the only person that can't sing in Polish at all?


mafketis 36 | 10,679
3 Jul 2020 #31
Also в къщи (or в къщи?) "at home" looks like a remnant of either a genitive or locative case...
Zlatko
3 Jul 2020 #32
Yeah, I guess so although we rarely think of such things as being cases in day to day life. Btw, according to most grammers we write it together as in "вкъщи", but many Bulgarians make the mistake to separate them. I don't know how that developped (like German zuhause?). ;) The old one was "doma" (дома), which is definitely a case.

I think the indefinite article in masculine words actually sounds like a remntant of a case to me:
"Give me the document" is "Daj mi dokumenta", while "a document" is just "dokument".
But if the document is the subject it would be "Dokumentat e..." - "The document is..." So in a way we have 2 definite aticles go figure, one for when the object/person is doing the action and the other when someone else is performing an action with them... just like cases are used. :P

Keep to the topic of the thread please
OP LostSoul 3 | 84
3 Jul 2020 #33
I noticed also an another thing. Most Polish singers sound as if they do some kind of political commentary. Their vocal range is not really wide. Examples: Kazik (though it really suits him), Marek Grechuta, Grzegorz Kupczyk from Turbo, average Perfect song. I don't know, maybe there are not too much of Polish rock bands, or something...

Anyway, most Polish singers have no soul.

Besides, it seems like in my country there hasn't been that much a tradition of spontaneous singing. In particular neighbors - "Karen" are irritating about this particular thing. They don't like any musical expression at all...

During the pre-war times, Polish language used to sound better, as it utilised the hard "Ł" sound. Examples: Eugeniusz Bodo, Aleksander Żabczyński etc.
The Polish way of singing used to be more emotional. Right now, everybody sounds just lazy in this language...
pawian 221 | 23,970
3 Jul 2020 #34
Right now, everybody sounds just lazy in this language...

it is obvious you haven`t listened to all singers.

Marek Grechuta, Grzegorz Kupczyk from Turbo, average Perfect song. there are not too much of Polish rock bands

Exactly, Marek Grechuta isn`t a rock band. buhahaha It probably means you haven`t listened to him at all.
OP LostSoul 3 | 84
6 Jul 2020 #35
Ok, so let's continue this thread.
I also happen to have impression that Polish language sounds really angry and vulgar (e.g. overuse of K-word, P-word etc.).
Basically everybody sounds monotonous and angry, like there are arguing (e.g. about politics).
mafketis 36 | 10,679
6 Jul 2020 #36
that Polish language sounds really angry and vulgar

That's the people, not the language... I think Polish sounds softer than Czech (for example)

The phonetic traits that make speakers sound angry in some languages (like guttural or tense sounds, tones) barely exist in Polish.

Post a link of someone speaking Polish that sounds angry and vulgar to you (independent of content).

Polish can sound a bit monotonous both because it is syllable timed (like Spanish or Italian) and the intonational spread (difference between high and low and soft and loud) is smaller than in some languages in Europe.
OP LostSoul 3 | 84
6 Jul 2020 #37
And that's why I can't sing in this language. It doesn't have a rhythm for rock music. Besides, feminine rhymes (as in Italian) don't fit for rock music. That's why I couldn't listen to Italian progressive rock bands.
gumishu 13 | 6,133
6 Jul 2020 #38
And that's why I can't sing in this language. It doesn't have a rhythm for rock music. Besides, feminine rhymes

have you heard of this band - youtu.be/y39vAfRmZoQ
- the lyrics have mostly masculine rhymes
gumishu 13 | 6,133
6 Jul 2020 #39
of course it's a Polish band
pawian 221 | 23,970
6 Jul 2020 #40
I also happen to have impression that Polish language sounds really angry and vulgar

In songs? You probably listened to niche rap or postpunk. So why did you mention mainstream pop and rock groups before?

That's why I couldn't listen to Italian progressive rock bands.

What other languages have caused a problem to you? Do you complain about it in other fora, too?
dolnoslask 6 | 2,934
6 Jul 2020 #41
niche rap or postpunk.

Sick garbage, no place in Poland.

Led to Gothic rock yuk yuk yuk.
pawian 221 | 23,970
6 Jul 2020 #42
Sick garbage, no place in Poland.

haha The OP seemingly lost her soul listening to it.
kaprys 3 | 2,249
7 Jul 2020 #43
I must be weird as there are loads of Polish songs that I absolutely adore -most of them with Polish lyrics.
Złej baletnicy. ..
Tosh1
7 Jul 2020 #44
I think Polish language wouldsound totally rad combined with more oriental-like melodies (e.g. like in Greek or Turkish pop music Laïko)
OP LostSoul 3 | 84
8 Jul 2020 #45
Kayah and Goran Bregović did that already.

youtube.com/watch?v=ssZRctTmzow

youtube.com/watch?v=cKF2GjRAUtE
OP LostSoul 3 | 84
4 Oct 2020 #46
So, lemme continue this thread.
I found an interesting article made by Michael (Michał) Lonstar titled: Polish isn't a good language for music.
polskieradio24.pl/7/15/Artykul/898160,Lonstar-jezyk-polski-nie-nadaje-sie-do-muzyki
OP LostSoul 3 | 84
2 Feb 2021 #47
There is an another problem with Polish I have that was discussed on this thread on the 4th page (in fact, it's a continuation of this thread).

https://polishforums.com/language/biggest-problem-85425/4/

But rather than just complain look for models of vocal projection.

@mafketis

In Poland there is not much of diversity in singing, since for example a certain way of singing (e.g. hitting the high notes) is considered "gay" or "queer".

There aren't many singers in Poland I would like, except Paweł Birula from Exodus, Janusz Panasewicz from Lady Pank and maybe Józef Skrzek from SBB etc. That's just my personal taste.
budzin 2 | 10
4 Feb 2021 #48
@LostSoul
Given your interest in 70s era prog, you might like these:

youtu.be/M9bgWtNAQpE
youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_krtPW3V5MWskO4YefDgZcILsxdoMeGddg
youtu.be/zmpiGHe72Xk


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