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Polish language would look better written in Cyrillic Script?



Polonius3 1,019 | 12,555    
23 Feb 2016  #91

Ukrainian

I disagree. Urkainian would look better written in the Latin alphabet as that would push it away from Cyrillic Russian. The Czech letters č, š
ž could replace the ч, ш and ж respectively, the Polish Ł could serve as the Ukrainian hard L and palatalisaiton could be indicated with a Polish-style acute accent (ć, ń, ś, ź) or an apostrophe (c', n', s', z').


Wadzim    
9 Nov 2016  #92

А Ą Б Ц Ћ Д Е Є Ф Г Х І Ј К Љ Л М Н Њ О Ó П Р С Щ Т У В И З Ж Жь

Cz = Ч
Rz = Ж
Sz = Ш
Wulkan - | 3,189    
9 Nov 2016  #93

Polish language would look better written in Cyrillic Script?

It would look like Russian, definitely not better.
nothanks - | 663    
16 Apr 2017  #94

Kazakhstan spells out plans for alphabet swap
President Nazarbayev has laid out a timeline to switch the country's writing system over from the Cyrillic to the Latin alphabet. The change should be fully effective by 2025

m.dw.com/en/kazakhstan-spells-out-plans-for-alphabet-swap/a-38407769
Polonius3 1,019 | 12,555    
16 Apr 2017  #95

Rz = Ж

Wrong! Ż = Ж. In modern Polish ż and rz are pronounced indentically but previously they were not. You could hear the r and it sounded roughly like rż, as in today's Czech ř.
delphiandomine 87 | 15,827    
16 Apr 2017  #96

Urkainian would look better written in the Latin alphabet as that would push it away from Cyrillic Russian.

Hard to say Polly, because щ is much more efficient than shch, What you say about using more diacritical marks is also messier than the current Cyrillic.

Having said that, it wouldn't hurt them to move to a Serbian-style solution where both are in common use.
Polonius3 1,019 | 12,555    
17 Apr 2017  #97

it wouldn't hurt them

It would hurt 99% of all ethnic Poles. What you're urging is the same as saying Poland should adopt a two-headed white eagle. Cyrillic, sickle & hammer, red star,Eastern Orthodox faith go beyond what they are in essence because of a strognly negative cultural and polticial connotation. Poles were subjected to 170 years of the Muscovite yoke, to russification and sovietisation, Russian Poland was called Vistula Land, Poles were sent to Siberia, Catholicism was persecuted... Need anyone say more?!
delphiandomine 87 | 15,827    
17 Apr 2017  #98

It would hurt 99% of all ethnic Poles.

In Ukraine? Most of them aren't using Polish in daily life anyway. Have you ever been? The Roman Catholic churches there in areas where there are a Polish minority tend to use both Polish and Ukrainian during services.

As for Poland, Cyrillic does fit Polish quite well, but a spelling reform in Polish would sort out the problems in Latin anyway. I know the historical reasons behind many 'odd' spellings, but it's really time to reform it.
Polonius3 1,019 | 12,555    
18 Apr 2017  #99

time to reform

As a native speaker of Anglo-jabber, you should be hte last person advocating a spelling reform of someforeign tongue, in particular a roughly phonetic language like Polish. English is one big phonetic monstrosity as everyone knows. Just a small side point.Have you ever wondered why Anglo-American typewriters lacked the basic French accents used in so many English terms and phrases. Instead we type cafe as if it rhymes with safe, facade as if it's fakade, also coup d'etat, deja vu, vis-a-vis and many,many more. Instead the British typewriters were a fraction-lover's extravaganza with separate keys for 1/2, 1/4, 1/3, 2/3, 3/8 and 5/8, when any fraction could be made using the slash (/), eg 3/67, 9/10. etc.

The bottom line is. leave Polish alone and start in on the many Anglo-oddities which could be mroe rationally spelt ruff, tuff, throo, nite, definishun, etc. Also the Christian name Sebashchun (Krishchun name Sebashchun). But to get rid of those insightly diagraphs why not borrow the super-efficient Cyrillic щ and spell it Sebaщun. (Kriщun name Sebaщun)!
PolishWurst    
12 Oct 2017  #100

For me, both cyrillic and latin script for Polish Language looks cool, so I don't really know
Lyzko 17 | 3,663    
12 Oct 2017  #101

Would you say that Russian, Serbian, Ukrainian or Bulgarian written in Latin script also look "cool"?
Wulkan - | 3,189    
13 Oct 2017  #102

but it's really time to reform it.

What about reforming spelling in English? Would be useful for millions of native and non native speakers.
mafketis 16 | 4,734    
13 Oct 2017  #103

Yes, I agree dhat sum reform of English spelling woudn't be too hard to acheve and woud make dhe process ov lerning to reed and rite much eesier for both nativ and non-nativ speekers. Won problem is dhat dhose dhat hav already lerned don't want tu make things eesier for dhose after dhem...

I also think it woud bee nice iff evry slavic language had both latin and cyrillic script versions
Ziemowit 8 | 2,593    
13 Oct 2017  #104

dhe process ov lerning to reed and rite much eesier

Is this that famous version of English that Polo so often speaks of?

Anglo-jabber

Lyzko 17 | 3,663    
13 Oct 2017  #105

Reminds me of that classic education best seller "Eye kant reed, kan u?"
kaprys - | 393    
13 Oct 2017  #106

Polish has never been written in the cyrillic. What for anyway.?
Lyzko 17 | 3,663    
13 Oct 2017  #107

Untrue, kaprys! Then again, you entered the thread discussion a bit late:-)
kaprys - | 393    
13 Oct 2017  #108

@Lyzko
I would love to learn when Polish was written in the cyrillic. Please, illuminate me.

Perhaps 'daj acz ja pobrusze'?
Lol
Lyzko 17 | 3,663    
13 Oct 2017  #109

Return to the very start of the thread for further enlightenment.
kaprys - | 393    
13 Oct 2017  #110

Come on. Illuminate me. When was Polish written in the cyrillic?
Crnogorac3 1 | 244    
13 Oct 2017  #111

@kaprys

You might be interested to know that the very first book printed in Cyrillic script was in 1491 by a printing press in Krakow, not in Moscow.

;)

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schweipolt_Fiol
kaprys - | 393    
13 Oct 2017  #112

@Crnogorac3
But the book was in Old Church Slavonic, not in Polish ;)
Dirk diggler 5 | 1,238    
13 Oct 2017  #113

Poland chose Latin texts over Cyrillic mainly because they wanted to be more orientated with Rome than the Byzantine Empire and Orthodoxy.
Wulkan - | 3,189    
13 Oct 2017  #114

Untrue, kaprys!

Wrong, he is right, Polish has never been written in the cyrillic.
Lyzko 17 | 3,663    
13 Oct 2017  #115

Incorrect, if you go far back enough to early, especially religious, texts.
Wulkan - | 3,189    
13 Oct 2017  #116

LOL wrong, you are talking about Old Church Slavonic language. "Day, ut ia pobrusa, a ti poziwai" This is the oldest sentence in Polish written in 1268, Polish uses Latin alphabet from 1268-2017 no matter how much you don't like it.
kaprys - | 393    
14 Oct 2017  #117

I totally agree.
Polish Christianity has traditionally been Rome centred with medieval books hand written by monks in Latin. The first known Polish written sentence (already mentioned here twice) comes from such a book.

I hope that makes things clear :)))))))
mafketis 16 | 4,734    
14 Oct 2017  #118

Before it became part of the USSR Belarussian had been often written in both Latin and Cyrillic (probably more often latin). That Latin looked czech based (but with ł) wtih very weird vowels (since vowel changes are marked in the script unlike Russian).

Ukrainian also had a latin alphabet at one time but it never caught on widely (looked too much like Polish and writing Ukrainian in a Polish style alphabet makes it look like a Polish dialect rather than a separate langauge.....

The first slavic language written in latin script is apparently Slovenian (IIRC)
Dirk diggler 5 | 1,238    
14 Oct 2017  #119

The only polish that may have been written in cyrillic would perhaps by a small Orthodox community. If you go back 500 years to say the Commonwealth years the vast majority of texts, books, legal treaties, wood cuts, etc will be in Latin text. Poland has always looked westward and towards Rome not the east and Orthodoxy, save for maybe a small orthodox population.
Lyzko 17 | 3,663    
14 Oct 2017  #120

That's what I've been saying all along.




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