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Cultural disparities shown through Polish and English languages


Przelotnyptak1  - | 307
31 Aug 2024   #121
are lost on you coz you don`t understand them. Ha!!!!

Then, I understand that without a problem, your vulgarity is a different matter. Take care of the foam at your mouth; some might mistake your "sonny" disposition,
for the result of a close encounter with a rabbit animal,
OP pawian  221 | 24881
1 Sep 2024   #122
I understand that without a problem,

No, you don`t understand cultural language coz when I used it, you started peddling insults. So I lowered myself to your level for a while and I see it worked perfectly coz you got the message and duly reacted. Ha!
OP pawian  221 | 24881
14 Oct 2024   #123
Native Poles and Polesses sound more polite and caring when they use Poles and Polesses aka Polacy and Polki phrase instead of only Poles which sounds discriminatory.


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mafketis  38 | 10909
14 Oct 2024   #124
only Poles which sounds discriminatory.

or Polish people, which is what most native speakers would say
jon357  73 | 22934
14 Oct 2024   #125
@mafketis
Quite. Nouns for nationalities don't sound great in English, with a few historical exceptions, mainly close to England or with historical contact, like Poles, Finns, Spaniards, Arabs, Scots. Turks, Swedes, Danes. Many others are either derogatory and/or military slang, Chinaman, Kraut, Frog, Wop, Dago, Mick, Seppo, Kellper, Yanito, Saint, Saffer, or slurs about black, gypsy and Pakistani people.

Poles which sounds discriminatory.

As you know, English is one of the least gendered Indo-European languages, and given that pole can mean kij or laską, putting an -ess doesn't sound comfortable.

Anyway, try it with Finn and people will think you're talking about bridge.
OP pawian  221 | 24881
14 Oct 2024   #126
doesn't sound comfortable.

We don`t care how it sounds to various azholes. ):):) it sounds fantastic to Poles and Polesses and that`s what counts in the Polish forum. Ha!!!!
jon357  73 | 22934
14 Oct 2024   #127
English azholes

Since none of those exist, it doesn't sound at all. And it's a comically bad sounding word that nobody sober would use..

Etymologically, it has the idea of "less faeces".

It would t be so bad if it did t end in -less...
OP pawian  221 | 24881
14 Oct 2024   #128
English azholes

Don`t be so fast with quoting. Are you so impatiently waiting for my post to reply immediately??? :):):)
We are shaping the language according to our needs!!! Ha!! Simple.
OP pawian  221 | 24881
14 Oct 2024   #129
English is one of the least gendered,

Yes, because you have been so lazy with the language for centuries. Do we have to follow that stupendous approach??? Of course not. That is why your lazing English is improved by decent Poles and Polesses and you can`t help it.

Anybody who opposes Poles and Polesses is a stupid azhole who promotes language laziness. Simple.
So far two of them have taken voice. Anybody else???
jon357  73 | 22934
14 Oct 2024   #130
Yes, because you have been so lazy with the language for centuries

Or the opposite, since it's perhaps the richest and most dynamic language in the world.

Do we have to follow that stupendous approach

You have to bow down before us and weep as you worship us for giving you the language that you'll reply to this in. Kwestia jest w tego typu.

And yes, I do know thats a crude phrase in Polish that Poles, male or female, criticise the use of. W każdym (bądź) razie the kulturalny ones.

lazing English is improved by decent Poles

What the frig?

Your female version of Poles is awkward and counterlinguistic however at least it's not as bad as "trainings".

stupid azhole

Dlaczego takie brzydkie do mnie mówisz?
OP pawian  221 | 24881
14 Oct 2024   #131
counterlinguistic

Exactly!!! My second name is Improvement of your faulty linguistics. hahahaha This is a Polish forum and it is supposed to adhere to Polish culture. The fact that we use English for communication is completely irrelevant. Polish culture matters more! Ha!!!

Dlaczego takie brzydkie

You can blame yourself. I am too patriotic and feministic to handle the enemies of the Polish culture in velvet gloves. I have been kind and decent for too long. No more!!!!!!
Lyzko  41 | 9554
14 Oct 2024   #132
Hear, hear pawku!
mafketis  38 | 10909
14 Oct 2024   #133
Anybody who opposes Poles and Polesses

Which seems to be everyone in the universe except you.... please provide information that anyone else is using that abomination.

"Pole" applies equally to men and women the same way 'German' or 'Canadian' or 'American'. Why introduce a sex distinction that's not needed?
Lyzko  41 | 9554
14 Oct 2024   #134
Right, Maf!
Polish, German, and other languages have such a distinction, English hasn't.
jon357  73 | 22934
14 Oct 2024   #135
My second name is Improvement

It isn't, simian face, really it isn't.

patriotic

The last refuge of scoundrels/lobuzy

hear pawku!

If only
Ironside  50 | 12326
15 Oct 2024   #136
it sounds fantastic to Poles and Polesses and that`s what counts in the Polish forum. Ha!!!!

BS! It doesn't, its sound good to you because you are retarded.
OP pawian  221 | 24881
15 Oct 2024   #137
its sound good

to Poles and Polesses. I didn`t mean you in that group coz you are an alien body in Poland after 30 years` emigration.
Bobko  27 | 2085
15 Oct 2024   #138
its sound good to you because you are retarded.

Ironside has a Hemingwayan ability to deliver even the most complex messages in easily accessible form.

an alien body in Poland after 30 years` emigration.

Who needs Russians, when Poles have so much love for each other already?
Novichok  5 | 7512
15 Oct 2024   #139
Why introduce a sex distinction that's not needed?

For attention...
OP pawian  221 | 24881
15 Oct 2024   #140
so much love for each other already?

Don`t be stupid. All countries are similarly polarised. In Poland, decent intelligent Poles and Polesses reject rightists, nationalists, homo sovieticuses and this sort of maniacs. It isn`t a sin. Jesus also rejected bad people.

Ironside has a Hemingwayan ability

BS, His best ability is to crap turd in the middle of the path and hide in the bushes nearby to observe walkers step into it. He derives sick pleasure when they do.
OP pawian  221 | 24881
15 Oct 2024   #141
Who needs Russians,

Nationalists like Iron mainly. They realise they will never take power in Poland unless Russians help them like they helped Polish communists after WW2.
Recently Iron warmly talked about you. It is obvious he is preparing the ground for closer cooperation with imperial Russians.
mafketis  38 | 10909
15 Oct 2024   #142
Nouns for nationalities don't sound great in English, with a few historical exceptions

The only nouns for nationalities that have specifically female forms I can think of include

Frenchwoman, Englishwoman, Irishwoman, Welshwoman and Scotswoman.... The pronunciation of the first four are not always clearly distinguished (though they can be) from adj plus noun (English woman, French woman etc).

Lots of nationalities can be either nouns or adjectives depending on the context esp those ending in -an (American, Hungarian, Mexican, Chilean etc) national adjectives that end in -ese theoretically can be used as nouns though it sounds a bit awkard ?A Japanese ?A Portuguese? and those that end in -ish really resist nominalization *a Polish, *a Spanish *a Danish (about a person, not the pastry).
jon357  73 | 22934
15 Oct 2024   #143
Frenchwoman, Englishwoman, Irishwoman, Welshwoman and Scotswoman

I saw the first few words of that on the front page (Frenchwoman and Englishwoman) and was going add that these Scotswoman and Irishwoman (both old-fashioned) but not Welshwoman that I've never heard or read. Then autocorrect didn't highlight it and the dictionary mentions it. Dictionaries from your country and mine also have Manxwoman, and Collins lists Cornishwoman.

Scotswoman makes me think of the woman in the black cape and hood in the Scottish Widows Insurance advert. It's got a real old-fashioned feel and Welshwoman just doesn't sound right. If I was talking about my grannies (one of each, Scotland and Wales) I'd just use the adjectives.

national adjectives that end in -ese theoretically can be used as nouns though it sounds a bit awkard

Those just sound slightly disrespectful. At best, newspaper shortenings to save ink, paper and space.

those that end in -ish really resist nominalization

That makes sense. Perhaps it's why forms like Swede, Dane, Jew, Finn, Turk exist. I suspect the nouns predate the adjectives.
Lyzko  41 | 9554
15 Oct 2024   #144
Linguistically correct assumption, jon.
mafketis  38 | 10909
16 Oct 2024   #145
I saw the first few words of that on the front page (

I think I've only really heard the first three, I checked on a hunch that the others were in dictionaries.... there's also Dutchwoman which I may have heard and apparently Chinawoman (now offensive, like Chinaman).

So the only real way of forming explicitly female nouns for nationality is with -woman which is no longer productive (that is new forms can't be made).

And again the only two (ethno-racial, not nationality) words I've ever heard with -ess are Jewess and Negress (both offensive now).
jon357  73 | 22934
16 Oct 2024   #146
@mafketis
You've got me thinking now. In northern English speech patterns, especialy among the working class, they sometimes add (or added; it's a bit old-fashioned) the suffix -woman in some contexts, sort of diminutive, familiar, diminishing, being amusing. Examples are "that hairdresserwoman", "washerwoman", "Mrs Fussywoman", "the domesticwoman" (cleaing/laundry), "the milkwoman" etc.

Old fashioned now, and apart from washerwoman which is a very old pre-tech job, I've only ever heard women (all northern) use the suffix.
Ironside  50 | 12326
16 Oct 2024   #147
an alien body

The only alien body is a peanut stuck between your ears, it takes the role of your missing brian.
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to deliver even the most complex messages in easily accessible form.

Wow, you are good that is what I aim for.
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His best ability is to crap turd in the middle of the path and hide in the bushes nearby to observe walkers step into it

geez with the crap you come up with it makes you look bizarre. I think that is something you would do.
OP pawian  221 | 24881
16 Oct 2024   #148
peanut

That was funny. I like peanuts. \:):):)

something you would do

That was weak. Try harder and make up sth on your own instead of monkeying me. Ha!!!

you are good that is what I aim for.

Kneel down and lick Bobko where he tells you to..... hahahaha ....... hoping he will promote you for the governor of a Polish province occupied by imperial Russians.


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