Food / Fermented Oatmeal Soup from Poland - Recipe? [67]

Is this what all the fuss is about? It's a Lemko style very thick (Żur owsiany), Polish name is (kieselycia).



You can find the recipe Here
skarbieclemkowszczyzny.neostrada.pl/12s_potrawy.htm

BTW it is a Christmas eve dish.

News / Dalai Lama says: "POLAND HAS RETAINED ITS SPIRIT" [77]


LOL I wish that was the case.

News / Dalai Lama says: "POLAND HAS RETAINED ITS SPIRIT" [77]


And you should that’s what Dalai Lama talks about.


I don’t growing up in a totally homogeneous country this is probably as alien concept for me as communism must be for you.


No, no - Ideology remember; everything is sacrificed for the greater cause including your own family so you can forget about nationalism. Why do you think they called themselves Soviets instead of Russians?

News / Dalai Lama says: "POLAND HAS RETAINED ITS SPIRIT" [77]


That’s not me talking, it’s the assessment that I have read by some of the historians looking at present day Britain.


Yap that’s a B**** :-).


Don’t kid yourself it’s almost the same and never out of love.

News / Dalai Lama says: "POLAND HAS RETAINED ITS SPIRIT" [77]


I will not pretend that I know Irish history because I don’t. In Ireland’s case the English Crown desired ultimately to incorporate Ireland into the realm of British authority and the tools used to achieve this were British settlers in Ireland and use of English language. In Poland’s case it was virtually the same, the only difference being it was Russia or Germany trying to force their language on us and eventually incorporate us into their realm. Propaganda was just another tool for them to achieve their objective, it’s not designed to win "hearts and minds", well maybe in the short term to pacify the population or at least keep it neutral and give it a common goal to strive for but in the long term its goal is to assimilate the conquered people.

Although some historians tend to treat Ireland as the exception because Ireland has neither successfully assimilated into the British state as Wales and Scotland have (but have they?), nor completely broken with Great Britain in a successful bid for independence as most of Britain's former colonies have because of the Northern Ireland situation, I see it as just their unique position and circumstances and only temporary. One can even find similarity between Northern Ireland and Królewiec situation. I find many similarities between Poland and Ireland and virtually no differences, it’s just that our unique situations make it appear so. Trust me Russians and Germans “wanted us” for the same reason as the English Crown wanted Ireland – territory and cheap labor that’s all (just another possession). It’s a bit more complicated in Russian case but it sure holds true when it comes to the Germans.

News / Dalai Lama says: "POLAND HAS RETAINED ITS SPIRIT" [77]


I know


You got Dali Lama message, I see it the way you stated it.

News / Dalai Lama says: "POLAND HAS RETAINED ITS SPIRIT" [77]


I have to disagree with this statement; I personally do not see the difference. Communism was an ideology with ultimate goal of Global domination. Although the propaganda might have painted this picture as such that was never the case.


Looking at U.S. where most of the people claim one nationality or another, I wonder why is that? We are who we are, we keep the traditions of our ancestors, we keep our native language, we are proud of who we are – no matter of what our present circumstances are or our nationality is. It does not matter if the history is kind to us or cruel, we are proud of who we are. As long as we consider ourselves separate distinct group from our bigger more powerful neighbors we are the keepers of that spirit.

Dali Lama is correct, as long as we keep that spirit we Do Exist. His people have not lost that spirit; neither did many others who do not exist as a separate identity on political map of the world today. His message is a message of hope for his own people as well as for others who would like to be independent some day. Yes it is a Fact; this was a perfect opportunity to keep the message alive for many around the world. It is his duty to do that for his people and as a Pole I’m proud of the fact that he used us as an example for others to keep the hope alive.

Life / 3 reasons why you hate Poland. [1049]

I had some in restaurants that were not to my liking, too bland. Spicy is good the more spicy the better. I guess I prefer my mother’s cooking. Nothing like a taste from your childhood.

Life / 3 reasons why you hate Poland. [1049]


Many of you that have traveled extensively and like to experiment with local cuisine most likely tried some "Tripe" without even realizing what you've eaten. Here's a sample of dishes made of "Tripe" from around the world. Be honest BubbaWoo, have you ever tried one of those dishes?

Personally I love Polish style Tripe Soup but it has to be home made not store bought.

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]


Now you’re talking out of you Arse.
BTW I love my "Mizeria" so that bit is true.

Language / Polish sayings [237]

Mądry Polak po szkodzie.
English equivalent: It's easy to be wise after the event.

Tonący brzytwy się chwyta
English equivalent: A drowning man will clutch a straw.

Prawdziwych przyjaciół poznaje się w biedzie.
English equivalent: A friend in need is a friend indeed.

W miłości i na wojnie wszystko jest dozwolone.
English equivalent: All's fair in love and war.

Lepszy wróbel w garści, niż gołąb na dachu.
English equivalent: A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Gdy wleziesz między wrony, musisz krakać jak i one.
English equivalent: When in Rome do as the Romans do.

Wszędzie dobrze, ale w domu najlepiej.
English equivalent: East or West home is best.

Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1049]


życie jest krótkie, sztuka długotrwała

Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]


Jesteś członkiem męskim


It seems to help in Polish also.


Kurwo Jebana jesteś członkiem męskim.

If you want to be more polite (Although I don’t see how): Człowieku jesteś członkiem męskim.
But don’t confuse it with: Człowieku jesteś członkem rodzaju męskiego.
(Not quite the same thing you know).

Genealogy / Polish surname Gil. My ancestors were from the town of Widelka. [74]

mysterychix - Iwona Dakiniewicz, a Polish researcher affiliated with the Polish Genealogical Society of America, who researched the Widelka parish records and Gil family. You might want to contact them or visit Ptak family page. She did some research for them so if you e-mail them they might be able to tell you how to get in contact with her.

Cetnarski and Ptak Family Page
h**p://home.earthlink.net/~billcash.polish/

Polish Genealogical Society of America
email - PGSAmerica@aol.com

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]


All that effort to discourage one person, was it worth it?

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]


No argument here, right on. (Except Iceland).

Life / Polish folklore/legends [61]

Here you will find a ton of Polish legends.
PODANIA I LEGENDY POLSKIE RUSKIE I LITEWSKIE univ.gda.pl/~literat/podania/index.htm#spis
Legendy spod Giewontu e-zakopane.pl/legendy/spiacy_rycerze.html

Food / Polish Milk Soup [72]


It's Szczaw = Sorrel
Personally I hate milk soups, but Sorrel Soup is not bad.

Life / Polish Nursery Rhymes [253]


Just a guess, could it be 'już je szyją' or 'już są szyte' ?

News / Original cars manufactured in Poland [64]

Here’s some more. I think you can see z_darius at the end of the first clip.
Ursus C-45 in second.

News / Original cars manufactured in Poland [64]

Old polish promotional video for URSUS.
In order to get some contracts for export they traveled through 11 countries of Middle East.
58 c in the caravan, definitely not fun.

News / Original cars manufactured in Poland [64]

One question Osioł. Is that you in action doing the Tractor Drift with your Polish friends?

youtube.com/watch?v=ylgSoYno2TI

News / Original cars manufactured in Poland [64]

Here's the link to cars produced in Poland before WWII
old.timer.pl
Polska Motoryzacja 1918 - 1945

News / Original cars manufactured in Poland [64]

Brand new TUR it's designed as a cheaper and safer alternative to the Humvee.
amz.pl/en/military_vehicles/news/tur/tur



Nysa van was produced in Nysa, Poland from the 1950s to the early 1990s
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nysa_%28van%29

Syrena was a Polish automobile model manufactured from 1957 to 1972 by the Fabryka Samochodów Osobowych (FSO) in Warsaw
autohistories.com/fso/syrena.html

Warszawa was a Polish automobile marque manufactured from 1951 to 1973
autohistories.com/fso/warszawa.html

Polonez Around the mid-to-late seventies FSO
autohistories.com/fso/polonez.html

Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]


The origin of “Psia Krew” goes back to Polish Tatar wars and later to the wars with Turks. Both of those groups call all unbelievers “infidels”; we on the other hand used to call them “dogs” and their religion “Psia wiara” (The religion of a dog). Some claim it’s due to the way their language sounds to us. So the worst insult to any Pole at that time used to be “Psi synie” (son of a dog) another words “Bastard” (not just any kind of bastard, but the worst kind imaginable at that time) hence “Psia Krew” (Dogs Blood). Psia Krew=Bastard not literal translation of (Dogs Blood), hope this clarifies the meaning of the word.


Jesteś kochana=you are loved (someone very sweet) or
Jedna Kochana (Jedyna Kochana)=only one I love
Sorry to disappoint you not a swear word.

Genealogy / Need help with family history/surnames: Netzel, Petke, Gruzlewski [24]

Surname Petka is very common in Podkarpackie (Rzeszów) probably because of the Austro-Hungarian influence in that region, Possibly it’s Serbian (Saint Petka) not sure about that.

Pestka would be Polish

Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1049]


Southeastern

I have just looked it up

BOBO to po polsku straszydlo, potwor.

przynajmniej w krakowskim, straszono dzieci, "przyjdzie bobo i Cie zje."

Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1049]

Yes it is but you also say Bo cie bobo weżmie( boogyman will take you) or straszy bobo
Very old people use to use this word for ghost and judging from the word lezie it is a bit archaic.

Genealogy / Polish surname Gil. My ancestors were from the town of Widelka. [74]

You may want to contact her she has done some research on Gil from Widelka
Frequent surnames in records - Iwona Dakiniewicz
When you scroll down you will see Gil name in town of Widelka

pgsa.org/Iwona/IwonaS.htm

Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1049]

You have withered like a herring


Probably you lost some weight or something


Maybe- idzie bobo? or lezie bobo?
Here comes the boogyman