Off-Topic / Has Palestine ever existed? [68]


Poland still recognizes and interacts with Palestine as a state.

Palestine currently has as much freedom under Zionist occupation as Poland did under Nazi and Soviet occupations.


Which showed nearly 30% (a third of the country!) still didn't want to live there.


You don't know.

You only feel and your stance on this matter shows how you, as a "strong and independent woman", caved in easily to Zionist shaming tactics:

"Never Saw So Many Feminists Being Silent" Over Attacks on Israel - Says Israeli Minister May Golan

Off-Topic / Has Palestine ever existed? [68]


"Diplomatic relations between Poland and the PLO were established in July 1982 (after Israeli aggression in Lebanon). Representation of the PLO received the official status of a diplomatic mission, and its director - with the status of ambassador - the privilege of accreditation to the head of state. Renaming the PLO mission in Warsaw to "The Embassy of the Palestinian State" took place in 1989 during the visit of Mr. J. Arafat, due to the unilateral Palestinian decision. It was adopted by the Polish authorities (the Polish position resulted from the decision of the UN General Assembly from December 15, 1988 concerning the use of the name "Palestine" instead of "PLO"). As a result of the signing of the peace agreement between the PLO and Israel in 1995, the name "Embassy of Palestine" started to be used in order to stress the fact that the peace process will result in the creation of a Palestinian state. Poland supports the right of the Palestinian people to self-governance and its aspirations to achieving an independent Palestinian state as a result of the Middle East peace process."

gov.pl/web/palestine/bilateral-relations

All that needs to be established are permanent borders within their ancestral lands. Reasonably this would be what the UN proposed in 1948.

Even Poland didn't finally settle its border with German until 1990 (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Polish_Border_Treaty).

Canada and America still haven't resolved their territorial disputes (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_areas_disputed_by_Canada_and_the_United_States).


You complain that a poll taken within the last 10 years isn't credible but a specious claim of Jews living in Palestine thousands of years ago and absent from there for just as long is relevant?

You said so yourself:


Like I said, you don't know what you are talking about and clearly don't want to.

Off-Topic / Has Palestine ever existed? [68]


In other words, you don't know what you are talking about.


Exactly!

Jews from Central and Eastern Europe only migrated there with Britain's permission in the 1900s because they didn't want to participate in diversity, equity and inclusion in the societies of the countries they were actual born in and once they got to Palestine they didn't want to participate in diversity, equity and inclusion with the native non-Jews who were already living there for millennia.


Great, just give them all their land back.

Many Israelis don't want to live in Israel anyway.

Bye, the Beloved Country - Why Almost 40 Percent of Israelis Are Thinking of Emigrating

haaretz.com/2012-12-15/ty-article/.premium/bye-the-beloved-country/0000017f-f0ba-dc28-a17f-fcbf3f920000

Off-Topic / Has Palestine ever existed? [68]


What does that matter?

There were centuries when it simply didn't exist nor was it autonomous which is the same argument you are trying give for the Palestinians not "existing".

Congress Poland

"Following the partitions of Poland at the end of the 18th century, Poland ceased to exist as an independent nation for 123 years. The Congress Kingdom of Poland was theoretically granted considerable political autonomy by the liberal constitution. However, its rulers, the Russian emperors, generally disregarded any restrictions on their power. It was, therefore, little more than a puppet state in a personal union with the Russian Empire. Thus, from the start, Polish autonomy remained little more than fiction."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_Poland


Nor was there any real country of Israel before 1948.

Zionism originated in Central and Eastern Europe not Palestine. Zionists had to ask the British to be allowed to immigrate to Palestine.

This is all in the 1917 Balfour Declaration which mentions Palestine by name but Israel isn't mentioned anywhere.

The Balfour Declaration also recognizes "existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine" and makes Jewish immigration conditional in that their entry into Palestine must not infringe on the civil and religious rights of the native population.



By the way, the Zionists in Palestine were first ruled under the British. The British then turned control over to the United Nations.

It was the United Nations that first proposed a two state solution.

Therefore, there never was a real country Israel whose liberation had to be fought for and freed.


So? No different than the State of Israel being self-recognized for a mere 75 years.

If you believe Jewish myths then why don't they resettle to the lands they claim they spent nearly a century in exile (i.e., ancient Babylon which is now modern day Iraq)?

Heck, they can go way back to the homeland of their prophet character Moses (i.e., Egypt) where as a people they claim to have lived for over 400 years.

Or they can go live in the land where this Moses person died (i.e., Jordan).

Off-Topic / Has Palestine ever existed? [68]


You might be surprised who doesn't agree with you.



Maybe you (like your fellow Zionists in Israel) would feel even better if we start calling them "Europeans" instead of "Jordanians".

Two Israeli lawmakers call on European countries to take in Gaza refugees

"Criticizing international community for not helping in tangible way to find solutions for 1.2 million Gazans displaced by war. We simply need a handful of the world's nations to share the responsibility of hosting Gazan residents. Even if countries took in as few as 10,000 people each, it would help alleviate the crisis. The international community has a moral imperative-and an opportunity-to demonstrate compassion, help the people of Gaza move toward a more prosperous future and work together to achieve greater peace and stability in the Middle East."

timesofisrael.com/two-israeli-lawmakers-call-on-european-countries-to-take-in-gaza-refugees/

Besides people can argue that Slovakia should never have existed due to Magyar rule and Magyarization.

People can also argue that Poland itself shouldn't have existed due to centuries of being partitioned and occupied by foreign powers.

Off-Topic / Has Palestine ever existed? [68]

Yes, even Poland recognizes Palestine.



According to Poland's Ministry of Foreign Affairs:

Diplomatic relations between Poland and Palestine were established in 1982.

gov.pl/web/palestine/bilateral-relations

How long has Israel existed?

According to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs only 75 years as of April 2023.

Israel celebrates 75 years of independence

gov.il/en/departments/news/israel-celebrates-75-years-of-independence-23-apr-2023

History / Neon style in Cold War Poland [22]


Altered yes but not always due to a malfunction.

"In post-war Poland, the state distribution system impeded private initiative, and advertisements were superfluous and even seen as antagonistic to the communist system...neons could only be put up if they carried information or were decorative...All that was left of the pre-war neon installation "Hotel Polonia" was the bare word "Hotel"."

culture.pl/en/article/a-history-of-warsaws-neons

This explains your rabid leftist hatred of Polonia.

Polonia represents the true Polish spirit of freedom, family, faith and fidelity to Poland.

Such values are anathema to communists such as yourself.

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [577]


Where are the women?

Oh, yeah...

Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1303]


You have the table manners of a dog just like Tusk.

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Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1303]


Why won't you answer why your family doesn't sit together around a table to eat like actual Polish families do?



Is life under Tusk so dire now that you had to burn all your dining furniture to keep warm or sell it just to buy food?

Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1303]


It's understood from the conversation.

You complained that your children had their main meal and dry, savory dessert on the same plate and at the same time even though they were not sitting properly at a table anyway.

I said piling food like this isn't so uncommon even in public gatherings.

You (the bourgeois communist) condescendingly dismissed this as gluttonous.


No, it's because your dishwasher wife doesn't want to do more work! :)

If you were so environmentally friendly as you pretend to be then you would avoid more electricity and water consumption all together and use compostable paper plates instead, Mr. Fallout Farmer! :)

Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1303]


You call your wife the dishwasher? Wow!

Okay but I'm sure not to her face! :)

Yeah, who stacks and empties the dishwashing machine most of the time in your "Polish" home anyway? According to the PF feminists it has to be your wife and not you! :)


Oh, so you personally keep using the same plate again and again for everything on offer. Gluttony in slow motion.


Why complain that your children are gluttons for having sausage and a dry savory dessert on the same plate at the same time when they are not sitting properly at a table to eat anyway as shown in the photo you posted? :)

Life / Poland's birthrate on the decline [480]


The feminist movement was for the longest time regarded as strictly a battle between heterosexual men and women.

The trans issue was always there; just quietly tucked away for decades at the end of LGBT and regarded as a completely separate matter which would never cross over.


That's true. Unfortunately most women went along gleeful when woke women were attacking and tearing down normal men so women could enter men's spaces while maintaining a special places and privileges for themselves.

These same women who were enthralled with the drama of it all now look rather stupid if they object to the trans movement encroaching on female spaces when for decades they were complicit and mindlessly barking feminist dogma that men and women are equal and sex is a social construct.


That's women's fault. They can blame men for not "leaning-in" enough to support women. They can blame men all they want but at the end of the day women and women alone are responsible for the situation they find themselves in today.

Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1303]


As if you were going to use separate plates too so your wife could do more washing! LOL!

Poles at parties usually pile their plates high with everything on offer so they don't have to get back in line. Maybe you would know this if you ever got invited to one. :)

Besides, poppy seed cake is often made too savory. So much so that you could get away with spreading butter on it.

Being on the same plate isn't going to ruin the taste of the sausage.


He is the anti-woke resistance. Because of him Poland will not perish!


You might as well. Once your son and his generation become of voting age the woke left will only be read about in history books!

Life / Poland's birthrate on the decline [480]


Even though feminists hate men because they have daddy issues and problems with male authority in reality it is women who abhor having other women in positions of power and having to take orders from other women.


They would take all the money and never come into work.


They do that now.


Ever notice how feminists demand entry into male spaces while insisting women retain their own spaces?


They want free on-demand abortions now even at the moment of birth. If they had it their way they would take at least six months off after having an abortion too.


They will take any male because you will never see a woman lift heavy objects or repair sinks for another woman.

Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1303]


Maybe it was message meant for you to say you are an overbearing parent as most leftist households are when it comes to their uncompromising ideology and demand for conformity. :)


You are suffering from white savior complex as is the case with most overbearing parents in leftist households who love to virtue signal. :)

Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1303]


Nah, read the t-shirt.

They prefer to be awake rather than woke like you.

News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]


Many Jews or their ancestors have voluntarily converted to Christianity and even rose to prominent positions in it.

The first 'Jewish' archbishop of Canterbury heads to Israel

timesofisrael.com/the-first-jewish-archbishop-of-canterbury-heads-to-israel/

Jewish-born actor Shia LaBeouf converts to Catholicism, intends to become deacon

timesofisrael.com/jewish-born-actor-shia-labeouf-converts-to-catholicism-intends-to-become-deacon/


No.

Christianity is trinitarian, Judaism is not.

News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]


Not at all. You think your argument is watertight but it has too many holes in it.

Your era of comfortably taking it for granted that no one would notice or be shamed into not talking about it is over.


Well if they want to be distinguish from everyone else then you agree they should be issued ID cards and numberplate for their cars showing that they are different from the rest of society.

How else should be they be treated differently?


Great idea since they go to great pains to show they don't actually want anything to do with the society that hosts and tolerates them.

News / Poland - A True Bastion and Defender of Free Speech [250]

Spilling American blood and treasure (literally) overseas in any era in no way kept America in a state of isolation.

It meant trillions of dollars not invested in America's infrastructure and society.

It meant millions of American lives left scarred, disabled or dead for generation after generation.

News / Poland - A True Bastion and Defender of Free Speech [250]


Wrong.

America has been involved in constant wars globally before the Great Depression (WWI) and after it (WWII, Korea, Vietnam).

Here is a much longer list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States

Europe enjoyed great long periods of great prosperity over the centuries and in particular after WWII thanks to American investment both economically and militarily.

Europe has no excuse to be so much against freedom of speech other than its penchant for such totalitarianism learned under decades of communist regimes in the East and Socialist regimes in the West.

History / Life in communist Poland - personal relations [397]


Lies!

Here are the facts!

President Duda Presents Teacher Salary Bill on Wednesday, Excluding Funding for Public Television

"President Andrzej Duda of Poland is set to present a bill on Wednesday, focusing on salary increases for teachers."

polanddaily24.com/president-duda-presents-teacher-salary-bill-on-wednesday-excluding-funding-for-public-television/politics/34821

Over to you to personally and publicly thank President Duda! :)

"The bill, expected to address the government's commitment to a 30-percent salary hike for teachers, has drawn attention for its exclusion of funds earmarked for the acquisition of public media."

30%! Yikes!

Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 8 [1563]


British ships! That's why most blacks in the Americas speak English and have British names. That's also why you are such an Anglophile!

News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]

When these identifiers are nothing but shifting sands and randomly used and defined only to gain advantage or avoid responsibility then they should be disempowered and not recognized at all.

Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 8 [1563]


Nothing.

Decades ago PiS saw the need for a Fourth Polish Republic to finally and fully address Poland's shameful communist past.

But there are too many old communists like pawian and Tusk still alive who cried foul and went ballistic at the thought of being held to account and forever losing the vestiges of a system which they personally benefitted from.

Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 8 [1563]


Yes.

Relatedly, there are published articles which show that because of the era of slavery whites living today in the American South are now genetically closer to American blacks than any other whites living elsewhere.


You have a simpleton's understanding of this topic but it is all the same just in different eras.





Here is an article in Polish glorifying state-run slave labor from the halcyon days of your communist youth:

Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 8 [1563]


It didn't end there!

Socialism is Slavery

"The superiority of independent labor over Communism was known to the shipyard workers of Gdansk, Poland when they founded the Solidarity trade union...Solidarity helped bring down Communism in Eastern Europe."

victimsofcommunism.org/socialism-slavery/

See, as a chauffeured card-carrying communist you either knew or should have known that you personally supported slavery in Poland because you were a beneficiary of it!

Life / Poland's birthrate on the decline [480]


The legal presumption is that the wife's husband is the biological father.

Therefore the burden is on the husband to go to court and prove otherwise.

That's what life is like for men under feminism.

Poland is a patriarchy? LOL. You're crazy!


And it is nearly always women.

This is why joint petitions are needed to correct this imbalance of catering to the wild whims of women.


Women don't bring more and you couldn't provide a single example to show they do.

When it comes to housework women don't to do any.

You've been saying so yourself over and over again and this problem is universal.

Does Unequal Housework Lead to Divorce? Evidence from Sweden

"We find women's housework reports drive these relationships, with important consequences for men's relationship satisfaction and women's relationship commitment."

journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0038038516674664

Women are not committed to holding up their end of the relationship and this leaves men dissatisfied.


Spoken like a true feminist. You completely lack self-awareness. You value relationships based solely on what a man contributes and how much more he should contribute. And when a wife doesn't and won't contribute your lame excuse is that such women are "too tired" to honor their wedding vows and so the husband should do more.

Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 8 [1563]


Why are you laughing like a fool?


"Like the black slaves in the plantations of the South, peasants in Poland were tied to the land, had to work hard (and for free), they could be severely punished by nobles living in white manors, and if they escaped, they were hunted. Just like their American counterparts, they lived a life that was hopeless and without much hope for change."

culture.pl/en/article/slavery-vs-serfdom-or-was-poland-a-colonial-empire

They had to go to the slave fair and pick up a healthy strong black man or woman and then take them to their plantation and show what to do there.

"the only difference between serfdom in Eastern and Central Europe and slavery as we know it from the Americas was that people were not sold individually, which means that members of families were not separated from each other. This does not mean however that there was no human trafficking. There was but it was a wholesale trade - villages were sold en bloc with all their population."

culture.pl/en/article/slavery-vs-serfdom-or-was-poland-a-colonial-empire

News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [358]


Only liars, hypocrites, trolls and crazy people have wild inconsistencies in their arguments.

At the end of the day you only want homogeneity for your own in-group no matter where they reside.

And your own in-group is a complete social construct based on a highly selective narrative.


Such people only want to be Polish on paper when it suits them such as applying for benefits or when they get arrested.