News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Unlike you, I use facts, statistics, and reliable sources...

On the other hand, you use a red herring like the few Muslims in Poland or the tiny LGBT community to claim that Poland is this liberal progressive country, which it isn't.

Unlike you, I have used numbers and percentages to show that the vast majority of Poles are baptized Catholics - to most Catholics that would mean that you are also a Catholic. You however, do not - you use no sources nor any numbers to back up your claims.Show me some statistics or reliable sources that prove that Poland is moving away from a conservative and nationalist paradigm? You can't because there aren't any! In fact, nearly every major media outlet and even famous singers like Bono calls Poland a 'hyper-nationalistic,' homophobic, xenophobic, anti-Muslim country. Google 'Poland views on Muslims' 'Poland views on gays' or anything like that and you will find that Polish society is against the multi-kulti, pro-Islam, pro-diversity of the west.

Only an idiot would argue that Poland is not a Catholic conservative country... Maybe in you circle of gay liberal english teachers who failed back home in the west, but that doesn't represent the majority of POLISH society.


No it's not... it's about Poland's post-election political scene...

Maybe if you libs bothered to do some more reading you would've come to that realization. We are discussing religion only because said


which clearly isn't true. In fact, Polish society is becoming increasingly vocal and resistant to the things that the EU and the west are pushing - especially a diverse society, Muslim migrants, etc. Poles do not want it. Unlike jon, I can actually cite sources - for example, again, University of Warsaw stated that 70% of Poles do not want non-whites living in their country.

UK, Ireland / A new mayor in London: opinion of Polish people in the UK? [317]

Ironside, we are seeing this already though. In many western countries, Christian Europeans are asked to dress a certain way and take down religious signs if they're close to a refugee center. Furthermore, white people cannot walk around in the areas commonly referred to as 'no go zones' without at least being stared at by everyone or accosted by Muslim men for something. There are plenty of videos and photographs showing these 'no go zones' and showing how white Europeans being criticized for drinking a beer or that their wife/girlfriend is dressed like a *****. In it's best form, the Muslim men criticize the white Europeans in their Muslim neighborhoods - at worst it results in violence, rape, gang assaults, etc.

(since the libs here say no go zones do not exist, I will refer to them as 'areas with a Muslim majority population where crime, poverty, unemployment, and extremism are rampant - areas that even the police is scared to into unless they go in a group, areas where 'Sharia' signs are plastered all over light posts with streets that are patrolled by Hisbah patrols, where a woman wearing a skirt will be accosted as would a man drinking a beer).

Christian Europeans are asked to remove crosses and religious iconography from churches because they are 'offensive' to the Muslims. Yet no one asks the Muslims to not build minarets because they're 'offensive' to Christians.

Girls in schools near refugee centers are asked not to wear skirts because the Muslim refugees deem them to be 'offensive' and 'against their religion.' Yet no one forces the Muslims to shave their beards or not have women wearing burkas because they're 'offensive.'

Even in the US, white people are viewed as the enemy more and more now by the left. 'White guilt' is a real phenomenon.

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I am pointing out that a Catholic priest drew such a large crowd... whether it's Miedlak or JPII - the point is the Church is very influential in Poland because most Poles identify as Roman Catholic. Yes, it's power declined but nonetheless they remain one of the more influential (perhaps the most influential in many respects) institution in Poland.

Yes, many priests are upset that he says things like that because the church's official stance is to be united with the refugees and help them out. However, most Poles do not agree with this and they don't want migrants in Poland.

One can be against a church doctrine and still identify as a Catholic - in fact, most do. 100% of Catholics do not follow 100% of what the church says. If so, then there'd never be a pregnancy outside of marraige.

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That does not change that they still identify as Catholic.... there are plenty of trannies that don't bother doing the very minimum to change their gender yet I don't see you giving them flak for 'identifying with another gender' or 'not doing the very minimum'

What exactly is the 'very minimum required? Who decides it? There's no scale in the Roman Catholic church, this isn't scientology. You're not a beginner Catholic, an advanced Catholic - you are either Catholic or you're not it's simple. The minimum requirement of being Catholic would be baptism to most adherents of the faith. Typically, once you're baptized you enter the Roman Catholic church.

The vast majority of Poles are Roman Catholics no matter how you look at it though - whether they go to church or not. Millions of Poles won't go to church for 5 months in a row but you can bet they'll celebrate Wigilia even if they're pretty secular. Would you consider those people as not meeting the minimum requirements?

Whether you take a 90% survery from one source, 80% from another, 70% from a third - all of them are going to show you that the majority of people in Poland are Roman Catholic.

According to the Ministry of Foreigns Affairs of the Republic of Poland, 95% of Poles belong to the Roman Catholic Church - a survey based the number of adherents on the number of infants baptized. Most Catholics would say that the minimum is believing that Jesus is the Son of God, believing in God, believing that Mary was a virgin, and other things written in the Nicene Creed. I would argue those beliefs are the bare minimum - nowhere does it say in the Nicene Creed that you have to go to church every Sunday. Formally, baptism is what makes you a Catholic. A study by the Catholic Church revealed that from 2003 to 2014 mass attendance has declined by 2 million people and that around 40% of the population attend Church regularly - a very high number considering how lifestyle has now revolved around electronics and such - not going to church. However, during that time period over 2 million left Poland for Germany, UK, US, etc.

I am not arguing that Church attendance hasn't gone down - it certainly has. Nonetheless, the vast majority of people in Poland identify as Roman Catholic - that is their faith. According to this study (page 212) - there's 33.39 million baptized as of 2011 - stat.gov.pl/cps/rde/xbcr/gus/RS_rocznik_statystyczny_rp_2012.pdf

This is a 900 page article that describes in detail Polish society 5-6 years ago in every aspect - demographics, costs of living, labor force details, pollution, everything you can think of. If you read through this you will see that Poland is a very homogeneous society - most of the people that live in Poland are Roman Catholic Poles - and they're by far the vast majority.... not 55% or something but rather 80-90%+ Even Belarus is more diverse than Poland in terms of demographics and religion.

The Roman Catholic church, although their power has declined, is still nonetheless extremely important and powerful. For example, 50,000 showed up to see and hear Fr. Miedlak's anti-Islam speech...

Here's an except from his speech:


So true...

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According to the CIA Factbook, as of 2015 - Catholic 87.2% (includes Roman Catholic 86.9% and Greek Catholic, Armenian Catholic, and Byzantine-Slavic Catholic .3%)

You're making statements again that are totally different from reality. The vast majority of Poles identify as Roman Catholic. Perhaps all generations in modern day Poland are going to church less and less, but that doesn't mean that they no identify as Catholic or switched to atheist/agnosticism like in Czechy where 30%+ of the population is athiest. The Catholic church is not as strong as it use to be in Poland but it still nonetheless has a huge influence on politics and other aspects of Poland. Poles of all generations may not follow Catholic doctrines like no sex before marriage, go to church less and less frequently, etc. but nonetheless identify as Catholic.


Quite the opposite - if anything these paradigms are growing. If Poles didn't want a conservative, traditionalist, nationalist government then they wouldn't have elected PiS. Poland is one of more homogeneous conservative and xenophobic countries in the EU - most Poles do not care for increasing diversity in their own country, we don't want a multi kulti society like France or England.

Due to the migrant crisis and the Islamic terrorists in western Europe, Poles have become more conservative, traditionalist and especially nationalistic. Poles welcomed the EU and the west with open arms in the 90's and 2000's after communism because they wanted Poland's economy to grow and become competitive globally. The EU gave Poland billions of dollars so of course they wanted to be on good terms. However, Poland essentially traded away political power in this arrangement. Poles embraced the free market approach to economics of democratic systems. However, they did not wish to change their customs and alter their gay marriage laws and be forced to accept migrants. Poland, along with the rest of the Visegard 4, is resisting the EU forcing them to take migrants. Even PO fought against taking in migrants until Brussels put so much pressure on them (I'm guessing they threatened to cut Poland's funding) that they eventually agreed to a few thousand. Even the more far right groups have become way more popular because they are very vocal with opposing Muslim migrants coming into Poland. The average Pole wants nothing to do with the Muslim migrants - according to one CBOS poll, only about 20% of people support taking in refugees, regardless of origin while according to the University of Warsaw's study - 70% of Poles do not want non-whites living in their country. The conservative, traditionalist, and nationalist paradigm is far stronger and more popular than the western liberal paradigm - gay marriage, open immigration, atheism, etc. A Chechen family even reported how its impossible for her to put the children in school since the schools refuse to take them.

The only thing that has changed where the Poles weren't conservative, xenophobic, nationalistic, etc. is the fact that the majority of Poles accepted and welcome the Ukrainians - whether they were economic migrants just trying to make a bit of money in Poland or the refugees from the east. Aside from that, Poland and the majority of Poles are pretty conservative and Catholic. They may not be far right nationalists, but patriotism and love for one's country, religion, language and traditions. These are things that Poles kept alive even under partitions and foreign rule. Bog, Honor, Ojczyzna is what the majority of Poles believe in - that has not gone down and if anything has increased.

UK, Ireland / A new mayor in London: opinion of Polish people in the UK? [317]

2nd Battle of Vienna?

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

So I listen to a Polish radio station quite often - 92.7FM. It's a mix of talk, music, etc. during the weekdays. On Saturdays, they play more dance and techno music. The radio station's demographic is immigrant Poles.

On Sundays however this station turns into English and is called Democracy Now which is an LGBT station. Yesterday when I got into my car, the station was preset to 92.7 and the hosts were discussing the tranny bathroom issue. Since I like to hear both sides of the argument, I continue to listen to them.They made a few points:

1) We shouldn't live in a society where a person with a condition (medical condition?) should be ashamed.
2) It's not a big deal - everyone goes to the bathroom
3) More than likely, a person has already shared a bathroom with an LGBT person with nothing happening at some point in their lives.

I can understand that. However, they fail to point out a few things.

1. 99%+ of society isn't LGBT. The American Psychiatric Association deems that transexualism is a mental illness. If a person is dead set on using the bathroom with the gender they identify with, they should at the very least have the proper medical paperwork that states that individual truly feels like a man/woman. This would reduce incidents of perverts simply thinking 'well I'll use the girls bathroom today' because they feel like it and think they might get a peep show out of it. This isn't the case though - Obama just announced that across the US, a student can use any bathroom that he/she chooses regardless of birth certificate - fine, but then at least have medical paperwork proving that this person has this identity crisis.

2. Exactly - it isn't a big deal. So why are trannies making it a big deal? Throughout history, people have been going to men's or women's bathroom according to their sex - why is it suddenly in the past 2 years that now there's an issue on whether a man has to go to a man's bathroom and vice versa?

If it isn't such a big deal, then you would go to whatever bathroom corresponds to the gender you were born with.

3. True. I'm sure at some point in my life I've shared a bathroom with an LGBT person and not even known about and nothing came out of it. However, that doesn't excuse the 5 cases where individuals took advantage of this stupid policy and used it for perverted means like filming in changing rooms, a rape in a bathroom, etc. Also, it doesn't mean that young children should have to go to a bathroom and see someone dressed in drag and have to be confused at what's going on.

In Poland it's very similar - only thankfully unlike the US the scale is more tipped in the conservatives' favor. Even if a person is a twice a year churchgoing Catholic in Poland, chances are they still hold anti gay marraige and anti non-white immigration sentiments according to the polls i have posted.

There is a small group of very very liberal Poles who want gay marriage, gay adoption, a bunch of Muslims and other non white immigrants to come in, and Poland to be a multicultural liberal society like western Europe or the US. However, most Poles do not want a Poland like this - and that doesn't change much whether PiS or PO is in charge. People were just as islamaphobic with PO as with PiS - maybe a bit more so now but they still were very anti Muslim migrant even during PO.

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Church attendance is down worldwide - it seems to only be increasing in Africa since that a new foothold for missionaries.

These non church-going Polish youth though aren't picking up LGBT banners instead and demonstrating for gay marriage.

The conservative traditions and customs stay with people that they were raised with, even if they've stopped going to church - that's what matters.

History / Current Polish-Russian relations.. What do the Poles think? [60]


I guess you could say that in some ways. While I understand that Poland and Russia have a very complicated history and reconciling totally would most likely be impossible. However, I would like to see increased trade and decreased military rhetoric between the two countries.

Just because I admire Putin because he is a 'strongman' that the West is scared of and has improved the economic situation in Russia up until the invasion of Ukraine and the sanctions afterwards, does not mean that I want Poland to return back to Communism or the old system.

I simply wish for Poland not to be totally reliant economically on the west. Poland can certainly gain from trade with Russia. Also, I admire leaders that have the cajones to stand up to the west whether it's the Visegard 4, Russia, or even Iran - who is being wrongfully criticized over their nuclear program by the US, again due to certain lobbies and foreign interests.

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I am so sick of the deviant types forcing us to accept them. You represent the tiniest fraction of society - the 98-99% should not have to adapt to cater to you. If a priest runs a private cemetery or a man runs his own bakery - he ought to have the right to decide who gets to be buried in his cemetery and if he wants to bake a cake for a same sex couple or not. These people have no respect for our own philosophies - it is a private business owners right to refuse service and that's simply what happened in this case.

Of course the western media, and even a few anti-polish outlets within Poland, will make this incident seem that Poland is some backwards terrible country because some gay dudes couldn't get buried in a certain cemetary.

If this was a public state cemetery that refused I could understand, but it's a Catholic one. Catholic cemeteries wouldn't bury certain Italian mafia members who donated bag fulls of cash to the Catholic Church so what makes some same sex couple so special?

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Harry there are some priests that live the high life in Poland, as well as other countries that have a strong Catholic presence - like in LATAM or Africa. If a priest has a large parish and decides to keep some of that money for himself, it's no surprise that a priest can afford a luxury lifestyle. Look at even that one TV preacher in the US - dude is worth some $40 million and has 3 elevators in his house granted he's not Roman Catholic so their clergies' customs and practices. I know of one priest in Poland that likes to go out on Fridays and Saturdays in civilian clothes and take his Bentley out for a spin. However, for that one black sheep, I personally know around a dozen that truly live by their faith and practice what they preach. Not all priests, imams, rabbis are scum - most are very devoted and live according to what's expected of clergy within that religion.


Absolutely. At least there aren't the Muslim 'charities' collecting money for terrorist groups in Poland.... yet..


A Catholic priest can decide who is and who is not buried in a Catholic cemetery - that is totally up to the owners of the cemetery and their representatives. I'm sure that there are many other cemeteries that would accept the child. Catholic priests would often refuse to bury high profile crime figures in Catholic cemeteries even if that person went through baptism, communion, confirmation, etc.

Why are the gays, bis, trannies, etc. essentially forcing that private institutions accept them? I remember one particular case where a baker refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple. That is the business owner's right - if he wants to refuse service to someone then he has that right!

If you don't want to stir up a commotion with a private business, i.e. a cemetery or a bakery, then use the public one as they will be more catering to your beliefs.

If a business owner wishes to refuse service based on their own personal philosophies that is his or her right. Just as it would be a LGBT private business owners' right to cater exclusively to the LGBT community. Open a 'gay friendly' cemetary if you don't like the way Catholic ones treat you - or use the public one...

History / Current Polish-Russian relations.. What do the Poles think? [60]

I personally think that Poland and Russia ought to really reconcile

Work / South African wants to move to Poland, please provide some input? [59]


I know - there's a ton of Turks where my family lives in Dortmund. I'm not exactly sure when the first waves started coming but I believe it was in the 70's or 80's. Germans tend not to have much of an issue with the Turks those - this group is far better assimilated and contributes to society far more than the migrant hordes that we have seen from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Kosovo, Nigeria, Eritrea, Somalia, etc. The Turks are like the 'modern Muslims' - I'd say their culture has been more European than Middle Eastern. Most people don't mind the Turks in Germany though - they're not the issue and they're not the ones causing attacks, raping women, blowing themselves up, and marching with Sharia 4 Germany signs.

Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]

Tyskie for beer, Chopin or Sobieski for Vodka... or Piwo Mocne

UK, Ireland / A new mayor in London: opinion of Polish people in the UK? [317]


Khan's ties to extremists are certainly not false claims.

Here's a few facts:

He knows terrorist Babar Ahmad and was even filmed speaking with him at a funeral recently. He fought against Ahmad's extradition to the US.

He once shared a platform with Yasser al-Siri, a convicted terrorist and associate of hate preacher Abu Qatada
His brother in law, Makbool Javaid is linked with extremist group Al-Muhajiroun, an organisation that praised the 9/11 attacks and the 7/7 bombings.
He use to be a member of Stop Political Terror later merged with Cage, a London campaign group that described Jihadi John (who left the capital to join Isis in Syria) as 'a beautiful young man' but has since distanced himself.

Khan and Jeremy Corbyn were present at a tenth anniversary celebration of the Palestinian Return Centre (PRC) - which undoubtedly Israel claims to be linked to Hamas.

The reason why this guy won is because of all the Muslims in London. There's also a very strong possibility that there was voter fraud - which has happened before in Muslim communities notably the mayoral election of Rahman.

I do certainly now want these kind of people walking around in Poland- women with black garbage bags over their head, guys with huge beards chanting Sharia 4 Poland - no thanks...

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UK, Ireland / A new mayor in London: opinion of Polish people in the UK? [317]


False claim? The fact is voter machines were not working and many people were able to vote for Khan multiple times - unless of course this is a totally false claim by the British media- do you proof that it is a false claim?

This wouldn't be the first time there was voter fraud in London - bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-35823318
Former mayor Lutfur Rahman was removed from office last year after being found guilty of election fraud. Detectives launched the review following a High Court report into voter intimidation during the election. Last time I checked, Tower Hamlets is some 40% Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi.

It appears that East London is pretty notorious for voter fraud...
express.co.uk/news/politics/667147/Brexit-EU-referendum-vote-rigging-electoral-fraud-local-elections-UKIP-London-Mayor
"electoral fraud is more likely to be committed by or in support of candidates standing for election in areas which are largely or predominately populated by some South Asian communities, specifically those with roots in parts of Pakistan or Bangladesh".

Then just a day or so after this Muslim mayor wins - 'Glory to Allah' signs go up on buses... utter hypocrisy..

This is the islamization of London, the UK, and the rest of Western Europe happening right before our eyes. It won't be long before we see criminalization alcohol, womens' rights, and the implentation of Sharia - especially when politicians supporting such laws are voted in. Certain types of free speech which are totally legal in the US are illegal and can result in prison sentences in England, Germany, etc. - i.e. saying Sig Heil or doing the Roman salute can result in a 3 year prison sentence in Germany.

The election of Sadiq Khan and the "Glory to Allah" ads on London buses herald the beginning of a very scary, dark very dark - (like the color of the people who ushered this in) period in British history. It may indeed be the last period of Britain as the home of free people. Free people who willingly chose their own destruction and cultural suicide.

News / New European Council's report: "Poland oasis of racism, xenophobia and homophobia" ... [343]


Racist idiots don't blow themselves up and massacre people in Brussels and Paris - unless of course by racist idiots you're referring to extremist Muslims.


Not really - corruption is far worse even in a country like Czechy.


Yes they do - Jewish dems and Jewish lobbies are among the largest backers of gay marriage and gay rights - at least in the US and I'd assume it's the same in other countries too:

adl.org/civil-rights/discrimination/c/adl-and-the-lgbt-community.html.
haaretz.com/jewish/news/1.663193 - Jewish Groups Celebrate Historic U.S. Supreme Court Gay Marriage Ruling
Thirteen Jewish groups, among them organizations representing the Reform, Reconstructionist and Conservative streams, were among the 25 joining the amicus brief the ADL filed in Obergefell v. Hodges.

jweekly.com/article/full/75081/bay-area-jews-celebrate-supreme-court-marriage-equality-ruling
The American Jewish Committee tweeted: "For 109 years AJC has stood for liberty and human rights.

and you silly goys thought the Jews have nothing to do with pushing gay marriage in the US


The Prince is one of my all time philosophy books. I'm a big fan of Descartes too. Not too big of a fan Nietzsche as I don't agree with many of his criticisms of European society although I love some of his sayings like 'The true man wants two things: danger and play' Most people thin Machiavelli was far too cruel, rationalistic, and totally lacking of emotion. If you like Machiavelli, check out a book called '48 Laws of Power' by Robert Greene

A 2013 study by the Brookings Institute found that 77% of terror attack plots in the United States were motivated by Islam. A 2015 study found that 99.5% of all suicide attacks worldwide were also motivated by Islam.


Totally agree. They only waddle their butts and do something when the media or some politician gets on their case. Then they calll the media, bust some amphetamine factory that they've known about way in advance, and done deal.


The amount of Palestinians that the IDF has killed versus the amount of Israelis stabbed by Palestinians doesn't even compare. There's thousands of Palestinians that have died due to Israeli violence and supremacy versus a couple dozen Israelis killed by rockets, stabbings, suicide blasts, etc.

Aisha's story is not unusual in the besieged Gaza Strip, where a 51-day Israeli assault killed more than 2,200 Palestinians this summer and injured scores more. The 2014 war created more than 1,500 new orphans, in addition to tens of thousands already living in Gaza

aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2015/01/orphans-gaza-20151612433820289.html

Imagine if Palestine or Hezbollah created 1,000 Isreali orphans - the whole world would invade the west bank or Lebanon.

Check the facts before you criticize the Palestinians as the aggressors - they are resisting an occupation - just like Poland did during WW2.

Work / South African wants to move to Poland, please provide some input? [59]


Start studying Arabic, stop shaving, stop showering, get a burqa for your wife and fly to Germany or Sweden - that appears to be the best way to get guaranteed housing and income in Europe nowadays.

Life / Warsaw is a difficult city to adjust to (coming from Canada and having lived in South Africa) Prague? [46]

There's a great Egyptian restaurant in my town - but yes, for the most part I will agree with you the foreign cuisine isn't that good in Poland. However, Poland's meats, cheeses, delis, etc. are way ahead of the rest.

Delph czech black market economy is significant - maybe not in terms of agriculture but certainly in terms of vice. I wouldn't necessarily consider a guy standing on the road selling blue berries and not paying taxes as 'black market' - typically this is classified as grey market by economists. Black market is huge in Czech - ever since they're decriminalized possession of all drugs there's been a big meth boom and marijuana was already huge there.

Work / South African wants to move to Poland, please provide some input? [59]

Sorry to hear your plight. It is truly sad how the whites are treated in South Africa after they've built up the country and economy. The discrimination and violence that whites are facing is hardly reported in media let alone the big six. We welcome you in Poland.

Some 30 40 years, a lot of Poles actually moved to S Africa because the government was providing housing and great jobs to whites.

UK, Ireland / A new mayor in London: opinion of Polish people in the UK? [317]

I don't live in London (Thank God) but I've been following this new mayor now - apparently, this Muslim has some ties to extremists and vocal antisemites. There's been some mention of voter fraud too with people being unable to select Goldsmith.

breitbart.com/london/2016/05/10/pamela-geller-immediately-muslim-mayor-elected-londons-iconic-buses-proclaim-glory-allah/

Khan's ties:

In 2008, Khan gave a speech at the Global Peace and Unity Conference, an event organized by the Islam Channel, which has been censured repeatedly by British media regulators for extremism.

The Muslims who voted for Sadiq Khan did not reject his extremist ties and supremacist rhetoric, dispelling the notion that most Muslims are moderates and do not adhere to the Sharia, or support extremism. Apparently, they are not "Uncle Toms," as Sadiq likes to call moderate Muslims.

Possible voter fraud:

At the same time, many Jews were prohibited from voting. Even the Chief Rabbi of London was turned away - leading to the Chief Executive of one London borough having to resign. Innumerable voters throughout the London Borough of Barnet - where much of the British Jewish community lives today - were prevented from voting by a suspicious and never-explained "error" at the area's polling stations.

Mote info on possible voter fraud:
metro.co.uk/2016/05/05/voters-sent-multiple-polling-cards-could-vote-twice-5862530

A Muslim politician who shares platforms with extremists but yet has no problem with gays is running the financial capital of Europe? What has this world come to?!

Found a good detailed article on this election -
weneedtotalkaboutislam.com/#!A-statistical-insight-on-how-extremistlinked-Sadiq-Khan-was-elected-mayor-of-London/c193z/5732e0f80cf284cf213f0bd3

Demographic breakdown of some areas:

Brent (only 18% percent white British, 18.6% identify as Islamic faith)
Tower Hamlets (31.2% white British, 27.1% identify as Islamic faith)
Ealing (30.4% percent white British - 16% identify as Islamic faith)
Harrow (30.9% percent white British - 12.5% identify as Islamic faith)

Life / Warsaw is a difficult city to adjust to (coming from Canada and having lived in South Africa) Prague? [46]

The country has been stagnating for years - Slovakia isn't far behind at all, and if it wasn't for the large rural populations in both PL and SK, they would be ahead of the Czechs by now. I like the country, but it has some severe issues.

That's not true - I read one statistic that actually the Czech economy actually grew (in terms of percentage) the most of any EU country.

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-14/czechs-power-eu-s-fastest-gdp-growth-as-romania-hungary-stumble

I really like Czech society - I've been there only about 3 times but I'm absolutely infatuated by Prague. I could totally live there - and the wages are a bit higher than Poland, on average.

UK, Ireland / A new mayor in London: opinion of Polish people in the UK? [317]


I believe there's 20 some Jewish MP's right now - Muslim politicians are a fairly new thing in the west but the Jews have been in politics in the west for quite a while, although in much larger numbers after WW2.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Jewish_politicians

I can say that my favorite British politician is by far Winnie - a huge anti-Communist who understood the subversive tactics of the Zionists and their role in violent revolutions to overthrow civilzations - namely Bolshevism and Communism of his day. He explains this in his essay '"Zionism versus Bolshevism: A Struggle For The Soul of The Jewish People'

Two brief exerpts:


and


- Winston Churchill

UK, Ireland / A new mayor in London: opinion of Polish people in the UK? [317]

Under its new Muslim mayor, London plans to decorate its iconic red buses with banners praising Allah... at least those buses that haven't yet been destroyed by Allah-praising bombers.

express.co.uk/news/uk/668398/Praise-Allah-bus-slogans-get-green-light-just-months-after-Lord-s-Prayer-ad-gets-banned


No way, I've tried Indian food twice - both at rather pricey restaurants. (I kind of live by a motto - 'I'll try anything twice - in case I didn't like it the first time). Well, both times I felt like like tandoori and all those nasty spices were coming out of my sweat. I showered and washed my clothes and I could still smell the Indian food! It was literally like 2-3 days before I couldn't smell Indian food anymroe.

Life / Warsaw is a difficult city to adjust to (coming from Canada and having lived in South Africa) Prague? [46]

It's ridiculous it's a pretty short distance actually but if you travel during the day it can easily take 5 hours. I honestly don't like driving long distances in Poland. Road trips in Poland are not for the faint of heart, especially when you're used to wide highways and driving a large car. In Poland people in tiny fiats are passing people going 100 kmh through the villages - even on corners sometimes.

I still can't believe this poster left Prague... hope she had a really good reason. That is one liberal country I honestly wouldn't mind living in - liberalism seems to work a lot better there than the larger Western countries.

Life / Warsaw is a difficult city to adjust to (coming from Canada and having lived in South Africa) Prague? [46]

I don't know why'd you'd ever leave Prague - that is by far my favorite city in Europe. I'd definitely take Warsaw over Cape Town, Johannesburg, etc. though.

I could see why Warsaw would be a hard adjustment. It doesn't have the best layout and even for someone who is pretty fluent in Polish it's hard for me get around the city. I remember the two times I thought I'd be adventurous and skip the 1 hour flight from Warsaw to Wroclaw and just drive instead... yeah never doing that again..

Did you move to Warsaw for family, work, school?

UK, Ireland / A new mayor in London: opinion of Polish people in the UK? [317]


If you read my post the last time I was in London I was there on business - the company I work for is listed in London... The time before that I went as a tourist a Trafalgar tour about 8-9 years ago and did all the 'touristy' stuff like seeing big ben, buckingham, parliament, etc. I was so happy when I left and was able to take the ferry to France... although France kind of sucked too till I got to the southern riviera which is awesome - although I bet since that time it's also been overrun by darkies. I can honestly say that London is my least favorite city in Europe - disgusting, gray, ugly women, way too many Arabs and Muslims, needlessly expensive, congested, dirty, terrible food... yeah I definitely won't be spending any of my own dollars on a trip to London again...

And yes, there were tons of Arabs at and around the exchange - it seemed like every 4th person was either african, hindu, or muslim.

You guys can keep all your multi kulti types led by a pro-gay Muslim.

Feedback / The Cognitive Dissonance and Campaign of Hate by Polonophobes and Other Peddlers of Anti-Polish Propaganda [60]


There aren't laws against freedom of speech and freedom of expression. You can't spray paint racist things on buildings or beat people up because they're of a certain race or religion - that's what a hate crime is. Unlike many countries in Europe, we can walk down the street with SS uniforms shouting Sig Heil and will even get police protection from hecklers. Only a tiny portion of society participates in things like this but the point is people are free to make their views and opinions known - even if they are offensive. Not everyone here is a racist, a xenophobe, an islamphobe, etc. just because they have conservative views - and even if that's the case you ought to respect their views and engage in a more meaningful debate than merely just calling someone 'racist.' I can cite statistics like that 60% of welfare recipients are black despite only being 13-14% of the population - does that make me racist? Perhaps... last time I checked though numbers aren't prejudice but so be it - it doesn't change the fact that this statistic is true.

By limiting dialogue that doesn't conform to your beliefs and calling it bigotry, hate speech, etc. you're just seeking to silence people for having opposing views because you can't come up with a better reply than just name calling.

Also, there has been a lot of anti-Polish sentiment throughout history - especially in the Russia, US and UK. Much of the Polish jokes and caricatures came from Nazi and Soviet propaganda as well as Jewish Communist sympathizers in Hollywood. I've seen quite a few reports of British politicians and British groups rallying against polish migration to the UK. It's settled down quite a bit - as these same people who were so against Poles have realized that the Muslims and Africans are the far bigger issue. We at least go to work, assimilate into society, and don't bomb buildings and commit massacres. Yes, Polonophobia has declined considerably as now Europeans see that Polish migration is by far the lesser of two evils compared to the flood of Muslim and African migrants that have invaded Europe. Nonetheless, there are still attacks every so often on Poland and the Polish people - especially by western liberal media.

I'd say the biggest polonophobes I can think of off the top of my head are probably Yitzhak Shamir, huge Zionist and Mossad agent who claimed Poles receiveantisemitism with mother's milk, Jan T Gross who equates the Poles with Nazis and Jewish hardcore Communist and Council of Foreign Relations member Adam Michnik - former editor of Wyborcza - who 'cultivated a species of tolerance that is absolutely intolerant of antisemitism yet regards anti-Polonism and anti-goyism as something altogether natural'

The Jews sure love calling Poland a xenophobic and homophobic country - I think this may be in part revenge for the holocaust and Poland's stubbornness to accept liberalism.

A few books on this topic -
amazon.com/Rethinking-Poles-Jews-Troubled-Brighter/dp/0742546667?ie=UTF8&ref_=cm_lmf_img_7
As vast as they are vexed, controversies about the relationships between Polish Christians and Polish Jews continue to swirl long after the Holocaust, which intensified so many tensions between those communities.

Hollywood's War With Poland -
books.google.com/books?id=wYAzmjlJmVoC&printsec=frontcover&dq=anti-polish&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjBrOnf0s3MAhUMND4KHV1gDhgQ6AEIJTAB#v=onepage&q=anti-polish&f=false

Even Cardinal Jozef Glemp spoke about the anti-Polish sentiment of Jews, and was forced to recant after a rabbi started demonstrating. His words were ''if there won't be anti-Polonism, there won't be such antisemitism among us''

Forgot to add 1 thing to the description of 'Rethinking Poles and Jews: Troubled Past, Brighter Future'

...the essays do not whitewash the real issues that continue to separate Jews and Poles, even today. While offering an honest, objective examination of persistent sources of Polish anti-Semitism as well as Jewish anti-Polanism, the authors nevertheless find many hopeful signs of improved relations

This book argues that the Poles have no forum for discussing their suffering under the Nazis as the spotlight was totally taken away from them by the Jews. Furthermore, many teachings of the Holocaust paint the Poles in a bad light as co-conspirators and collaborators with the Nazis which results in anti-Polish sentiment among Jews even today.

Food / Is brain-damaging vegan fad growing in Poland? [176]

You know what Polson I did some research over the weekend on the food we have in the US and I always knew it was bad but I couldn't believe the scale of it. I could go and on but my posts are already really long. I've seen the pictures of feed lots and even drove past a few while I was in college. My dad worked in a juice producing factory (there was constantly rats scurrying all over the place and would frequently get caught inside the huge juice vats) so I know it's gross. I didn't realize the extent of it - I knew it was bad with meat but I didn't realize it was just as bad with soy, corn, vegetables, etc.

Anyway, it would appear that the majority of soy and it seems like corn and lots of other plants all come from one company - Monsanto. The problem is, if a farmer wants to grow soy or corn in the US they're essentially forced to buy seeds from Monsanto and use Monsanto chemicals. The non-GMO type of farmers don't really stand a chance because they constantly get threatened by lawsuits for patent infringement. A Canadian court ruled that if a farmer's crop is contaminated even 1% by Monsanto's soy (keep in mind pollen can travel even up to 500 miles), they are found to be in breach of Monsanto's patent infringement (Monsanto owns the patent on GMO soy and several other GMO crops). The worst thing is, soy and corn are modified to make 100's of different foods and products. It's almost impossible to pick up a product that doesn't have at least 1 of the following - high fructose corn syrup, xanthan gum, saccharin, etc. I mean literally everything we eat is basically modified corn - potato chips, aspirin, yogurt, ketchup, mayonnaise, Coca Cola, etc. I mean literally everything is run on corn now - they even feed corn to cows which is totally unnatural.

It's the same thing, even worse possibly with soy - well over 90% of the US soybean crop is GMO. That means things like tofu, miso, soymilk, and a lot of ice creams and candies contain GMO soy. So it would appear that actually a lot of the vegan diet is just as filled with GMO stuff as a regular omnivore's diet - possibly even more since vegans tend to eat so much soy.

It seems like if you want to really eat healthy it's rather difficult and can get expensive - especially if you're in the US or Canada. You're really limited to just a few specialty stores and even then it's been proven that GMO crops cross pollinate non GMO crops. At least in Poland, GMO food is labeled - there's no labeling for GMO food or meat from cloned animals in the US. There's millions of dollars that have been spent to prevent laws from these from passing. Only some rather obscure foods like alfalfa, zucchini, and some squashes appear to not be majority GMO. The popular crops like soy, sugar beets, corn, canola, and even papaya are 80% GMO in the US.

The problem is that the people who are in the FDA, USDA, etc. are oftentimes people who use to work for enormous multinational companies like Monsanto, Dupont, etc. It's the same with the other branches of government - i.e. half of the treasury people is people who use to work for Goldman or Chase, the FDA and CDC is filled with people who use to work for big pharma, and with the food industry and the regulatory agencies that are supposed to control it it's no different.

News / New European Council's report: "Poland oasis of racism, xenophobia and homophobia" ... [343]

I'll take that statement as a badge of honor. It means Poland hasn't yet fallen to multi kulitism. Let's just hope it stays this way.