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Borsukrates   
18 Jan 2016
News / Police in Poland admits spying on journalists. [11]

But it's PIS not PO that breaks constitution. Laughable.

Remember the quote "Przez młodego wyjdziemy na starego" by Jarosław Kaczyński ? It popped up when investigating spying on journalists in 2007, back when PiS was in power. PiS was desperately hunting for evidence that Jarosław Wałęsa has criminal connections. That would let them smear Lech Wałęsa.
Borsukrates   
17 Jan 2016
News / Is Jarosław Kaczyński the new Lech Wałęsa? [74]

Lech Wałęsa is very different from Jarosław Kaczyński.

Lech Wałęsa is just a simple man. He was a worker, an electrician. He's become much more well rounded and worldy, but still a simple person at heart. He's straightforward but rational. Traditional, Catholic, likes Polish values but relatively tolerant and not a fanatic. Yup, he had his share of brainfarts, some out of stress likely, and he probably tried to say something remarkable... too hard.

Jarosław Kaczyński is irrational, cynical and scheming. Not so much intelligent as cunning. He's also ruthless ("Przez młodego wyjdziemy na starego") and makes a judgement first, then scraps the bottom of the barrel to prove them.

Another difference is how they handle criticism. Lech Wałęsa has recently become fed up about accusation that he collaborated with secret police during communist (PRL) era. To prove that he's not "Agent Bolek", he's calling for a public debate/trial with 10-15 of his most determined enemies. He wants to settle the matter by discussing with his opponents, show proofs and even previously hidden documents.

Back to Jarosław Kaczyński. He just said: "Jesteśmy atakowani za nic." (We're attacked for no reason). Complete denial. So he's sending diplomats and buying sponsored articles in Western press. Not to discuss facts, but to present his spin, blame opposition and previous government.

"A u Was biją Murzynów!" - "And you beat black men!"
That's the mentality. Not address criticism, but deflect it.
Borsukrates   
17 Jan 2016
News / An article: NATO is the American occupation of Poland and Europe, by Mateusz Piskorski [233]

This idea is crazy. Poland currently can't build anything close to Intermarium because it's pretty weak. You need a strong state, like Germany, to form a lasting alliance around it. The moment Poland leaves EU and NATO is the moment Russia decides to defend its minority in Poland. And by 'defend', they mean' attack'.
Borsukrates   
17 Jan 2016
News / Adam Michnik awarded for integrity, professionalism and high standards. Poland's No. 1 fascist? [321]

It is not a true vote,

Care to elaborate ? What makes a vote not true ?

As for that journalist/writer Sumliński, the list keeps expanding. He also plagiarized Albom, Larsson, Steinbeck, Coelho. They found this out by talking to a translator. Unfortunately, three other translators who translated MacLean are already dead.

polska.newsweek.pl/kolejne-plagiaty-w-ksiazce-wojciecha-sumlinskiego-o-komorowskim-,artykuly,377715,1.html
He even plagiarizes in his blog posts.
Borsukrates   
17 Jan 2016
News / An article: NATO is the American occupation of Poland and Europe, by Mateusz Piskorski [233]

Disband NATO just because Russia says so ? NATO was formed to keep USSR in check, and Russian Federation is much the same thing - a country with strong imperial ambitions. Putin gets lots of support for the Crimea and Donbas attacks, and for his proclamations to rebuild the Soviet empire. Therefore, existence of NATO is more than justified. A whole bunch of countries don't want to be Russian colonies.
Borsukrates   
16 Jan 2016
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Here's No. 23: Dupia Wólka: big rally planned in village square, but it got called off.

"Dupia Wólka" doesn't exist.

How many idiots did they get to give up their Saturday off to trudge through the slush and chill their gonads for foreign banks and nomenklatura

Do you always call strangers "idiots" just because you disagree with them ? I suspect you don't, because there are only so many punches your face can take. But here inside my monitor, you can be brave.
Borsukrates   
16 Jan 2016
News / An article: NATO is the American occupation of Poland and Europe, by Mateusz Piskorski [233]

and so? Man has his opinion. Poland is free country

Free since it left the Warsaw Pact (it was never formally a member of Soviet Union).

I'm normally against personal attacks, but everything Mateusz Piskorski says should be viewed in the context of his pro-Russia agenda. He's very devoted to his cause. You only have to look past Poland's eastern border to see how beneficial "alliances" with Russia are. Warsaw Pact era Poland was more known for its absurd happy-sad comedies than prosperity.
Borsukrates   
16 Jan 2016
News / An article: NATO is the American occupation of Poland and Europe, by Mateusz Piskorski [233]

For your information:
Mateusz Piskorski is the leader of the openly pro-Putin party Zmiana (Change). He and his pals created a fake KOD facebook page which claims to be "the" KOD page and confuses people. Mateusz Piskorski advocates leaving EU, NATO etc. and joining Russia's Eurasian Union. He's a slavic nationalist. He also claimed the Crimea (Krym) referendum which made it join Russian Federation was completely legit.

People like Mateusz Piskorski are tracked by the fb page "Rosyjska V kolumna w Polsce" (Russian Fifth Column in Poland)
facebook.com/Rosyjska-V-kolumna-w-Polsce-218251225011751/
Borsukrates   
14 Jan 2016
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Bishop Pieronek said a few funny lines about PiS in "Rzeczpospolita" interview:

W średniowieczu powstrzymywano się od wyrokowania w nocy. Noc uznawano za czas szatana. Judasz wyszedł wydać Chrystusa nocą.

In middle ages nocturnal verdicts were avoided. Night was believed to be Satan's time. Judas walked out at night to betray Christ.

But to be fair, I'd rather have Church hierarchs not make political statements at all.

So if you want a railway to China, you are going to have to build it yourself.

The Chinese also have a saying: "If you want to get rich, build roads."
Borsukrates   
14 Jan 2016
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

That Czech PM officially said there's nothing wrong with democracy in Poland and he doesn't understand what the fuss is about.

Czech Republic is in the middle of nowhere, south of the center of Europe. Good luck transporting goods through the Tatra Mountains! Czech Republic can afford to say stuff like that, because it's not in the geopolitical crashzone. When a war breaks between east and west, Czech Republic or Hungary can watch from the sidelines. They're not on the highly travelled path.
Borsukrates   
14 Jan 2016
News / Jacek Kurski, the new chairman of TVP (Telewizja Polska) [37]

Made up by "hyena of the year" Lis.

The other 3 witnesses are Wołek, Kolenda-Zalewska and Władyka.

For me the issue is that Kurski is an extremely biased and cynical man. He's been proven to make stuff up to blacken political opponents.
Borsukrates   
14 Jan 2016
News / Jacek Kurski, the new chairman of TVP (Telewizja Polska) [37]

One of best known quotes of Jacek Kurski is:

Z tym Wehrmachtem to lipa, ale jedziemy z tym bo ciemny lud to kupi.

(The Wehrmacht thing was a sham, but we're sticking with it because dim people will buy it.)

He said that just before an interview in radio TokFM. Before they went on air, they had a conversation (Jacek Kurski + 4 journalists: Tomasz Lis, Wiesław Władyka, Katarzyna Kolenda-Zaleska and Tomasz Wołek). Tomasz Lis asked Jacek Kurski why he still insists (prime minister's) Donald Tusk's grandfather volounteered to Wehrmacht. He was bragging about it as if it was some great example of social engineering.
Borsukrates   
13 Jan 2016
News / WOSP Poland charity - is it value for money? [60]

Notice how Polonius immediately 'suspects' anyone that's involved with activities that the ruling Party has no control over

Either you're with us or with the terrorists.
Borsukrates   
12 Jan 2016
News / WOSP Poland charity - is it value for money? [60]

Polonius, you do realise that the more you make such comments, the more that WOŚP sounds like something fun and worth taking part in?

Haha, I couldn't put that better! You've made my day.

WOŚP is a secular effort. Jurek Owsiak is a liberal person and he's very inclusive and transparent about his finances. And that's precisely why right winged media try to discredit him. He's not even anti-religious, just religion-neutral.

They would love to say* that Catholic Church is the only possible source of morality and ethics. That without religion, it's all rotten and degenerated. Jurek Owsiak and WOŚP prove this line of thought is bull**** - just by existing and being successful.

Church is anything but transparent, so people hesitate to fund Caritas.

* and Jarosław Kaczyński even said that.
Borsukrates   
11 Jan 2016
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Rzepliński, TK head (Constitutional Court) is criticized by right winged media and PiS for being a member of PZPR. Yet, he was elected by Sejm, and even Jarosław Kaczyński voted for him.

How do we explain this ?
a) Kaczyński voted for Rzepliński because of his affinity for PZPR ?
b) Kaczyński changed his mind about Rzepliński ?

I won't try to support a), that's delphiandomine's obsession. It's more likely that Kaczyński simply has communist mentality because he grew up in PRL.

But b), that would suggest Rzepliński stopped being a good person to Kaczyński. A person is good as long as he supports Kaczyński.
Borsukrates   
11 Jan 2016
News / Confessions of a paid hater / troll in Poland [42]

Newsweek reports that members of European Parliament are now getting e-mails saying democracy in Poland is not endangered, and it was the previous government, the PO-PSL coalition, that was most dangerous to democracy. They're getting those emails in thousands. Identical, prefabricated emails. For example an assistant of Thomas Mann got over 1400 identical emails.

They're in english, spanish, french, german and polish. Even MEPs from PiS are getting them.
swiat.newsweek.pl/maile-do-europoslow-prawica-trolling-europarlament,artykuly,376819,1.html
Borsukrates   
11 Jan 2016
News / Jacek Kurski, the new chairman of TVP (Telewizja Polska) [37]

When you look at it that way, he might actually be the ideal person for the unelected dictator, Dear Leader Chairman Kaczynski, to appoint

Back after the presidential TV debate between Donald Tusk and Lech Kaczyński, Donald asked Lech:
- Why do you keep this son of a b. ?
- He might be a son of a b., but I prefer to have him on my side.
Borsukrates   
11 Jan 2016
News / Jacek Kurski, the new chairman of TVP (Telewizja Polska) [37]

Stuff Jacek Kurski said:

"I will be consistent in reclaiming for PiS institution after institution, company after company, office after office".
"I don't deny that in the domain of phraseology and portrayal of the world of politics I'm a receptive disciple of Jarosław Kaczyński".

"Whoever is going to raise a hand against (threaten) Jarosław Kaczyński should be aware Jacek Kurski will cut that hand off."

"It's not possible to vote differently than the leadership! Maybe bollocks like that can fly in the UK, (...) There must be discipline!" (about voting in parliament)

(82 words)

Long story short, he's a cynical, ruthless tool who claims he will do anything for dear leader Jarosław Kaczyński. I say "claims" because his history clearly shows he's happy to jump ship when wind blows the other way. He's been called a political mercenary, because when he was in LPR he was very critical of PiS, but then it stopped abruptly when he went from LPR to PiS, and Kurski was explicit about it. He doesn't have any strong views, just does what he considers beneficial for him. That's why ks. (priest) Krzysztof Niedałtowski was astonished to hear Kurski lecture people about morality. Speaking of morality, he doesn't pay alimony money for his 8 year old son.

Interesting. When ? Which unit ?

That's not clear actually. According to Wikipedia he either deserted to join Polskie Siły Zbrojne, or was a prisoner of war in an allied camp. Wikipedia has links to interviews and other sources if you want to dig more. Either version is likely unless he suddenly changed his views. Józef Tusk was a member of Tajna Organizacja Wojskowa (Secret Military Organization), which prepared behind-the-lines operatives in the case of war. When Germans arrived at Gdańsk, he was assaulted in his house, reported the assault to the police, which got him arrested. He was called a polish activist and a polish fanatic, dangerous to the security of German State. His family was evicted. He was a forced laborer and made to construct a concentration camp, then imprisoned in another concentration camp... clearly, Nazi Germany disliked him and he had reasons to hate them.
Borsukrates   
11 Jan 2016
News / Jacek Kurski, the new chairman of TVP (Telewizja Polska) [37]

PiS has promised de-politization of polish media long ago. To this end, they placed Jacek Kurski as the new chairman of TVP (public polish television). He was appointed on 8th of January 2015.

He's a polish politician, journalist and has a degree in economy. He was a member of at least 7 political parties, in chronological order:

First he was involved with opposition during PRL era, and cooperated with a number of right-winged parties.
NSZZ Solidarność
Porozumienie Centrum (led by Jarosław Kaczyński; he led the Sejm campaign of PC in 1993).
Ruch Odbudowy Polski
Zjednoczenie Chrześcijańsko-Narodowe (ZChN) - removed for tampering with list of candidates
Prawo i Sprawiedliwość
Liga Polskich Rodzin
(he then joined PiS again)
Solidarna Polska (removed once he started cooperating with PiS)

Court history

In 2006 he accused Platforma Obywatelska (PO) of illegally funding parliamentary and presidential elections from money siphoned from PZU. The case failed to find anything and has been dropped. PO counter-sued for libel and won. Kurski was ordered to publicly apoligize and transfer 100,000 PLN to Caritas charity.

in 2007 he was found guilty of libel, throwing unsubstantiated accusations at Agora S.A. (the publisher of "Gazeta Wyborcza" etc.). The sentence was, again, public apology and 10k PLN to a charity. Higher order court supported the sentence, but Kurski willfully failed to comply with it. In particular he was saying "Gazeta Wyborcza" can destroy anyone using its submissive judges.

In 2005 he was removed from PiS for spreading rumors that grandfather of Donald Tusk (then polish Prime Minister, now president of European Council) volounteered to Wehrmacht and fought against Poles in WW2. Upon closer inspection, yes, the grandfather did serve in Wehrmacht, but there are indications he was drafted, especially his desertion and joining of Polskie Siły Zbrojne. The grandfather fought for Poland until the end of the war.
Borsukrates   
9 Jan 2016
News / Confessions of a paid hater / troll in Poland [42]

Sorry I can't, I read the paper version. It's in the "letters from readers" section, the leftomost letter, I think the letter is titled "Za pieniądze"

I'd try reading it at an Empik if you live in a larger Polish city.
Borsukrates   
8 Jan 2016
News / Confessions of a paid hater / troll in Poland [42]

Angora 1 (1333) - 3rd January 2016 printed an anonymous letter from a young guy who works as a paid sock puppet / troll / hater. He is paid to post hateful political comments. Below is a summary of his insider view (the letter is long).

He works in a copartnership which shapes public opinion in the internet. The company is registered outside Poland and allegedly employs 300 people all around Europe. Most of them, including the employee, are students making extra buck in free time. They prefer to work remotely, from campus or from home.

The employee used to work as a telemarketer and was selling stuff to old people. A friend contacted him and offered a job - writing comments under articles. No specifics at first, then instructions to blacken a certain political party as much as possible. He received a list of 30 "facts" to support him in his writing. As a confirmation, he had to send a list of hyperlinks to his posts.

The goal is as many posts as possible. The more virulent the posts, the higher the bonus. The easiest insults are "thief" and "fraud" - they are so many nobody will try to sue you for libel. But best - highest paid - comments need many replies. So employees started cooperating, upvoting their posts, and writing replies.

On a small party, a manager spilled that he already did this work for industry: wind power plants (positive), car companies, insurance and banks.

But biggest contracts come before every election, typically every 2 years. They pay 0.13 - 3 Z£ for every post, of which the writer typically gets half.

In 2015 the biggest customer of such paid hater companies was PiS - almost from January. Presidential elections, then parliamentary elections. PO paid little - not out of kindness of heart or high morals, but because they underestimated paid haters. The most common and well paid targets of black propaganda were Komorowski (former president), Sikorski (former foreign minister), Kopacz (former prime minister).

Month ago they started targetting Ryszard Petru (leader of .Nowoczesna, an opposition party, currently popular but only 28 seats in parliament). Initially mild stuff like "A gdzie jest Petru ?" (Where's Petru?) in attempt to ridicule his then common media presence, now more foul stuff. The crosshair went from PO to .Nowoczesna.

As far as portals go:
interia.pl has the most anti-PO and anti-.Nowoczesna opinions. They block posts critical of Duda (president) and PiS (the ruling party).
gazeta.pl and onet.pl support PO and .Nowoczesna the most.
wp.pl is somewhere in the middle.

The employee sent the letter to Angora in hopes of making people aware. Most of comments, especially the vile and virulent ones, are paid. And comments by "old people" are almost exclusively paid.

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If you find more confessions in press, tell about them.
Borsukrates   
8 Jan 2016
News / Poland bets on Russian oil again [82]

LOL ! According to this logic we should build a huge wall on the western border.

No. This belongs here in this thread, moderators, because it's a direct reply. Don't take it out of context.

Military expenses:

Russia - 61 000 000 000 USD, 3.5% GDP
Germany - 48 022 000 000, 1.3% GDP
Poland - 10 860 000 000 USD, 1.95% GDP

There were also articles that Bundeswehra is deteriorating and incapable of helping Poland in case NATO was attacked.
Borsukrates   
8 Jan 2016
News / Adam Michnik awarded for integrity, professionalism and high standards. Poland's No. 1 fascist? [321]

Speaking of journalists and integrity, Wojciech Sumliński is an investigative journalist and a darling of right wingers. It so happens that his book was recalled from bookstores in the middle of presidential campaign without giving any justification.

The book "Niebezpieczne Związki Bronisława Komorowskiego"(Bronisław Komorowski - previous president) plagiarizes several criminal fiction classics, including Alistair MacLean and Raymond Chandler. Whole paragraphs are ripped. I attached examples.









Borsukrates   
8 Jan 2016
News / Mateusz Matyszkowicz, executive director of Fronda will lead TVP Kultura [15]

TVP Kultura is a public TV station focusing on cultural matters.
Mateusz Matyszkowicz is a an executive director of "Fronda Lux" and "Teologia Polityczna".
Mateusz Matyszkowicz will now lead the TV station. Another "Fronda" editor, Jakub Moroz, will take care of the channel's development.

This is wonderful, excellent news for everyone with strong right winged views who is Catholic. If there's a more extreme right winged magazine in Poland, I'm not aware of it. For reference - Fronda, Tygodnik Poświęcony (Sanctified Weekly):

fronda.pl

I don't count Radio Maryja, TV Trwam etc because technically it doesn't follow The Bible.