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Vox   
11 Aug 2015
History / Age of Enlightenment in Poland? [80]

islam and catholicism are both harmful, brutal superstitiouns.

You seem to be eluding a stake not without success.
Vox   
5 Aug 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

Nope. A family is only as 'good' as the individuals in it, regardless of number, relationship or gender

Nope, you are presenting ideological bias here and as such it has little to do with real life.

To suggest that a woman deciding to bring up her kids without male assistance is inferior ignores so many factors.

I'm not talking about gender here, I'm saying that anyone with a choice, choosing to be a single parent is proving to be mentally unstable and as such unfitted to fulfill role of a parent.

Being a single parent should be presented for what it really is, i.e. an unfortunate occurrence due to bad luck or poor life choices. Instead it is being used by social justices warriors to convince public that all models of a family are equally good and suitable for bringing up children.
Vox   
5 Aug 2015
UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

here under 5 years but have a 2 and a half year old child which they get benefits for(but they do work) That is a bit cheeky I think as they havent been living here long and other people have low incomes and no support.

I can see your logic, after all they came to Britain to work and pay taxes to support British people with low incomes.
@wladek

I would be very happy to see Poland ejected from the EU, or indeed the UK leave the EU in order to prevent Polaks from soiling this good country any further

I'm sure you would, scum.
@tictactoe

As for saying most Pole's don't claim benefits and come to work in the UK to and earn money is a generalisation

Nope, it is data from the 2011 census.

The public sector is a joke and it wastes money like ive never seen,

Since privatization of the BR in1993 fares raised to be the most expensive in Europe. Fares went up well in excess of the inflation for example a one way ticket from London to Manchester has gone up by 208% from £50 in 1995 to £150 today, this is more than three times the rate of the inflation.

In fact east coast railways depend less on public subsidies than any of the 15 privately run franchises. The franchise become a cash cow for the state bringing in around £ 100 millions to the exchequer since 2009.

According to 2013 report over £ 300 millions (taxpayers money) was forked out on the five most expensive rail companies between 2007 and 2011 alone. You were saying?
Vox   
5 Aug 2015
History / The Warsaw Uprising memory. To remember who you are. [180]

Oh here we go. . ..........

OK, rant over, why don't you wipe out spittle from your computer screen. You seems to be suffering some kind of trauma mostly self-inflicted I think due to your self evident limitations. Let me help you.

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"The Poles, main victims of the World War 2"

Yes, do you wish to contest it in the light of facts?
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"never done anything wrong"
What do you mean? This seems to be a poorly constructed generalization one can't address in a rational manner.
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"Nobody in the AK killed anyone but Germans."
More of the same, do you have a point?
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"Everybody was forced to take part in communism after the war, nobody had a choice and Poles are only victims".
I disagree. Why don't you change your wording and instead of "nobody", "everybody" insert "an overwhelming majority".
What do you mean by - only victims?
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"Not that anyone thinks that there were some Poles who took advantage of the regimes they lived under."
Ah there were some Poles, so what? What are you trying to say here? Do you have a personal grudge against some Poles or what?

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"The poor Polish nation"
Indeed they are hard done by in more ways than one.
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"Freedom fighters through and through"
About that, I'm not quite sure but at least they fought for freedom unlike all those nations fighting for an empire, totalitarian regime or whatnot. I think it is a good thing . Don't you agree?

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Vox   
5 Aug 2015
History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]

@Lyzko"What with all these commemorations concerning the indeed valiant Warsaw Uprising in '44-45, it seems to me that equal attention should be paid to the brief, shining life of Leopold "Poldek" Socha, "

Are you implying that death about 300 000 people in the Battle for Warsaw should be put on par with a fate of a single person? That struck me not only as callus and immoral in extreme but there are also deeper implications I don't want to go into. I can only say that your world is a very dark and creepy place Lyzko.
Vox   
2 Aug 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

@jon "we should stigmatise a woman whose family doesn't fall within those 'ideal conditions'?"

No, we shouldn't stigmatize anyone who doesn't willfully harm others I think it goes without saying. However, when you say - stigmatize you actually mean approve or to perceive as something as good as two parent family.

meh!

"You seem to be looking for a value judgement, that one type of family is better than another. That all type x are better than all type y or vice versa. The reality is very different"

Ideologically biased hype.
No, the reality is a one type of family is better than other, namely a man and a woman plus children are a family, one-parent family are a family with one important element missing.
Vox   
28 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

Obviously you read what you want but not what is written.

You are spinning tales of woe based on gossip, hearsay and overactive imagination, those problems you are writing about are not real problems.
"And yes, I come from a much different society since most people don't get married, over 50% of kids are born "out of wedlock", where gays may get married"

where nobody makes unpleasant remarks and nobody is being pressured, where embarrassing or awkward questions are never being asked. As I have said a real paradise. In case you didn't notice I'm being sarcastic here, also 50% of kids born out of wedlock that is not something you should brag about.

I think this is all about you, it is a weirdest whining I have ever seen on this forum. You are unhappy in Poland, just say it, nobody will judge you.
Vox   
27 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

No, it's not "who cares".

It is precisely about who cares InPolska. I can't phantom why would you like to poke your nose in other people business? Trying to dictate them what they should think or say. Don't you have a life of your own?

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It is most unpleasant to hear bad comments when not married, not having kids, etc

I say that it is not pleasant to hear bad comments at all. However those of us who are actually adults are well aware that life is not a fairytale.

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I know (educated, good looking) girls in Warsaw who are in the late twenties or older, not married, not even with boyfriends and they do not appreciate remarks re their status

I'm sure those are big girls are quite capable of defending themselves and holding their own without your help.
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Yes, because in countries like Poland, a woman is made to be married, to have kids otherwise there is something "wrong" with her...

You may believe it or not but overwhelming majority of women all over the world actually do want to have children and a husband. Hence if a woman claims something to the contrary people may start to wonder, not only in Poland. So what?

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Why don't they live and let others live their own way

Why don't you heed your own advice? Instead of spinning tales of woe based on gossip, hearsay and overactive imagination you could actually do something useful with your time.

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Back at home,

It must be pardise on Earth.

Back at home, nobody asks women why they are alone, why they don't have kids, why this and why not that.

I think you have lived a very sheltered life "back home".
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I myself did not have kids (mostly for medical reasons further to operation as I didn't want risks) and I sometimes feel the pressure as I have to "explain

Oh, so it is all about you isn't it. I'm sorry, I hate to break it to you in such a blunt manner but contrary to what you think people do have real problems and the world do not revolve around you.

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@Englishman

Yes, it seems I'm a groupie for feminists

I don't know about that but you fit the profile.
Vox   
26 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

@InPolska

OK, once again, let's hear it, as a white hetero male, you feel discriminated

Difference between you and me is that I talk about facts and you about feelings.
martynemko.com/articles/are-white-males-getting-shortchanged_id1229

lol!

LOL back at you, so far you haven't addressed my arguments and questions, you blow things out of proportion and assume a lot, feel a lot in a way that is a true mark of an ideological bigot.

@jon -

And the kids are stigmatised and get complexes so the shame goes on from generation to generation.

If you are hysterical you should really go for it, not for generations for eternity.
Are you even able to address real problems not imaginary ones?

And all outside influence that just hurts people inside

I guess If they are oversensitive or paranoid makes no difference in your eyes. State's institutions, functions and laws are not here to make you feel better? Also idea of belonging is build on exclusion, a cohesive society need to set boundaries otherwise it will disintegrate.

Several Poles told me that (in more rural areas) women who don't have children are seen as ... selfish until others know the reason why they don't have any kids. I could not believe it!

Who cares? There are people out there with real problems. You listen to gossip too much, either go out more or do proper research.
Vox   
26 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

You are making a lot of assumptions here and mixing issues. Let stick to the topic.
Would you propose to jail all those people who do not think being a single mother is such a good idea or while talking about people they actually know consider them to be wanton?

Talk to me, so far I have been listening to your ideological bias.

it is so in a lot (if not all) religious countries and yes, it is to stigmatize "bad women and their kids"

I suppose it is better to stigmatize heterosexual white males and call it democracy, right?
Vox   
26 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

@Vox: you cannot deny that for whatever you do in Poland, we always need to indicate our parents' names (where I am from, never) and it sure is stigmatization of people with unknown fathers.

That beside the point. You are making it sound as if those requirements have been tailored to stigmatize single mothers and are not leftovers of the totalitarian overbearing bureaucracy.

As said, in a democratic society, all citizens are treated equally.

Boo ho, no they are not.

single mothers are stigmatized in Poland as society considers them no better than sluts...

Some people consider them no better than sluts, do you propose to jail those people?
Vox   
26 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

"Not my idea of a fair and democratic society (everybody should be treated in an equal manner)."
You are talking about utopian society.
Every society look down upon certain acts and behavioral traits, usually on those which are detrimental or not very helpful for a society at large. It changes from society to society from civilization to civilization.

In a truly liberal society one can exercise his freedom by acting freely within certain boundaries without being punished by the law. If however his or in this case her actions landed her in a position which is stigmatized by a society she should grow thick hide or should have thought about consequences before acting.

Even in "liberal" society there are certain norms one need to conform to. For example glorification and privileges for single mothers, minorities and homosexuals cannot be questioned even though they have an ugly hidden side, namely marginalization of the majority and discrimination against white heterosexual males, not very fair in my view.

Utopian projects usual turn ugly and totalitarian.
Vox   
26 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

@InPolska:
"Whatever we need to do in Poland, for instance, we always need to indicate both parents' names. In case a child is illegetimate and does not know his father's name, he's stigmatized and this is wrong. I am shoked."

Here what I have found regarding Poland's law.

If the case relates to a child born outside of wedlock and no recognition (acknowledgment) of paternity of the child takes place, in the course of preparation of the birth certificate the mother's surname at the time of the child's birth is entered as the child's surname, as the father's surname and as the child's family name, and the name of the father is entered as the name stated by the mother of the child. If the biological father of the child recognizes (acknowledges) paternity, the child bears the name indicated by both parents in a statement made jointly. This may be the surname of the father or the mother, or a surname consisting of the surnames of both parents

"single mothers and illegitemate kids are discriminated against in Poland"

Could you point out what law discriminate against them?
"Single mothers in Poland are often considered no other than sluts"
People who enjoy to overuse alcohol are often considered no other than "alcoholics".
Vox   
26 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

Do you mean laws on status of women?

Article 73. Pregnancy of an unmarried woman shall not by itself be the cause of punishment unless relevant evidence, as defined in this code, proves that she has committed the act of adultery.

@InPolska

Article 88. The punishment for an unmarried adulterer or adulteress shall be one hundred lashes

Are you comparing Poland and Iran or you are being hysterical? A typical state of mind for some people taken by the feminist ideology.
Vox   
21 Jul 2015
Life / Single mothers in Poland [175]

Are those girls most often dropped by irresponsible guys to be blamed?

At least half of the blame lays with them girls. I would add modern society promote irresponsible lifestyles as something attractive, desirable and a best way to express one's freedom. Also feminist ideology is emasculating and belittling men. A lack of due resect and appreciation in a society for a responsible male role as a father and a husband adds to the problem of irresponsible behavior in both sexes.
Vox   
19 Jul 2015
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2698]

Yeah I wonder how firearm ownership would mix with the raging alcoholism spread throughout Poland

You are of course free to wonder anywhere but it doesn't give you the right to dictate to people whether or not they can buy a gun. Why paranoid and fearful musings of an individual should be a reason to stop people from acquiring a weapon?

You think armed civilians (without proper military training, just basic firearm training) carrying a bunch of pistols and rifles could stop invading armies?

Who said that they would? Has anyone arguing here that point? No, it is you a bigoted fool arguing with yourself.
As for your Syrian example after few years of a civil war and foreign interventions, this country is anything but a good example for anything, but if you insists.

I remember a story when local Christians residents were driven from their home town by a one band or the other because they were unarmed and bandits (alleged freedom fighters) were, those Christians got their weapon from Syrian government and were fighting back.

Before the war in a comparison of the rate of private gun ownership in 178 countries,(rate of private owned firearms per 100 population) Syria ranked at no.112 whilePoland at no.148.Few other countries:

Belarus ranked at No. 79
Germany ranked at No. 15
France ranked at No. 12
the Czech Republic ranked at No. 42
Russia ranked at No. 68
Sweden ranked at No. 10
Ireland ranked at No. 98
the United States ranked at No. 1
Saudi Arabia ranked at No. 7
England & Wales ranked at No. 88
Scotland ranked at No. 93
Denmark ranked at No. 69
Finland ranked at No. 33
Lithuania ranked at No. 160
Switzerland ranked at No. 3
Yemen ranked at No. 2

In Switzerland, they have to keep their guns locked in and the use is strictly controlled

"In Switzerland, carrying a firearm in plain view in a public place is allowed, often subject to a valid license, depending on the type of firearm."

"Licensed firearm owners in Switzerland are permitted to possess any number of firearms"
"In Switzerland, the right to private gun ownership is not guaranteed by law" Hey they are still no. 3! :)
Vox   
17 Jul 2015
UK, Ireland / What is the ONE thing that Polish people in UK have MOST problem with? [15]

Nathans's a well known hater

I don't know him and judging him on the merit of his post in this thread I think he is not a hater. He seems to have a low opinion about refugees and their motivations but that's hardly a hate.

I know a lot of Poles and NONE of them is taking an advantage of benefits

No one is claiming that in here. I think you are being defensive and with a good reason mind you but still.

Most benefit frauds and cheating is made by Brits and THAT'S A FACT!

It is fallacious argument and one that really doesn't support your case. I would say that frauds are being committed by criminals regardless of their origin.
Vox   
17 Jul 2015
Life / Why are Muslims seen as a deterrent to Poland? [565]

What is the difference between a moderate Muslim and a radical Muslim?The moderate Muslim wants the radical Muslim to kill you.

Are implying that all Muslims are terrorists?
Vox   
16 Jul 2015
News / There is no Poland without the Church! [178]

It stand to logic that if the statement of the political leader wouldn't have been acceptable to the majority of Poles he wouldn't said that.

Meaning that most opinions expressed here by different posters are just their personal views and do not reflect reality in Poland.
Vox   
16 Jul 2015
News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]

Seriously, feminists are the most attractive, sexiest, most loveable of all women.

Really? In my experience feminists are whinny privileged women from the first world who all their shortcoming blame on men and imaginary patriarchy and complain that the world do not revolve around them. In fact it is ideological group with an agenda akin to that of a cult.

Are you sure you know first thing abut feminists? The reason I ask is because you are waffling a lot of nonsense.
Vox   
6 Jul 2015
News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]

I'm fairly thick skinned

You have forgotten to mention that slinging out abuse and insults towards people who do not see eye to eye with you about the same sex marriage or any other issue comes very easily to you. Yet, you smoothly managed to present yourself as a victim.

Let not forget here that

insults due to sexuality

have little to do with the same sex marriage and LGBT agenda. However incidentally insults due to sexuality does fit the profile of the topic and as such could be debated here.

I for one would think that it is a very good idea to debate rights homosexuals enjoy in Poland at the moment. Instead we have been witnessing here, page after page of crude propaganda promoting political LGBT agenda and as its counterpart on the other side of the spectrum we can read Polonius obsessive musings revolving around homosexual bedroom activities. Enough is enough.