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Poland seeking more natural English speakers


Jobsworth
17 Jul 2015 #1
Not for teaching english but for service centers.
Poland is getting much more work from english speaking countries and are finding their english speaking customers are not as friendly in dealing with people with strong accents.

Of course we have seen this before when India snapped up allot of call centres, people just refused to deal with them.
One group (scottish customers) are totaly non - com to Polish people! The scottish accent is just to much for them to cope with.

So when looking for work in Poland.. no experiance need apply, just a nice pleasent english voice.
Sadly the number of natural english speakers in Poland dont total up much for low end call center jobs.

As one person put it to me... People flee Poland to take crap jobs in the UK.... People in the UK dont flee to Poland to take crap jobs.

So there is a demand for you if you willing.
ldn2krk
17 Jul 2015 #2
So where are these jobs then?

I've been in Krakow for 2 months and still looking for work. I'm a native speaker and not too keen on teaching anyway.
eh?
17 Jul 2015 #3
oh they're around if you go to agencies, pay is about 500 quid a month before tax
ldn2krk
17 Jul 2015 #4
Agencies? You mean all those agencies online who never respond? The few bricks-and-mortar agencies I've come across aren't great either.

I know how much these places pay as my other half works for one, but when they take a look at my CV they're not interested. I've been working in IT for over 10 years so why would someone with such "great experience" settle for a low paying job? That's usually the response I get.
OP Jobsworth
17 Jul 2015 #5
ldn2krk you should be looking here.
pracuj.pl/praca/english;kw/Krak%C3%B3w;wp

Here is some off hand on a quick look.
pracuj.pl/praca/sales-consultant-s-krakow,oferta,3978762
pracuj.pl/praca/it-helpdesk-technician-with-fluent-english-krakow,oferta,4021660
pracuj.pl/praca/associate-documentation-team-krakow,oferta,4015658
pracuj.pl/praca/consumer-focus-specialist-krakow,oferta,4010808
pracuj.pl/praca/warehouse-sale-support-krakow,oferta,4035147

Allot of the companies post directly to this site.
pracuj.pl
Good luck
ldn2krk
17 Jul 2015 #6
Jobsworth, thanks for the replies and the links. I'm on pracuj.pl everyday and have actually applied to a few of those jobs. I get emails from the site everyday and apply to whatever I think suits.... and I haven't had one single interview, not even a phone call. My approach clearly isn't working... or am I being impatient?
eh?
17 Jul 2015 #7
:) So then you shouldnt be settling for a low paying job!

perhaps...
shorten your cv
remove references to age and year of education
...and then get in the door at interviews.

maybe try your luck in wroclaw - it seems to be booming !! citylab.com/politics/2015/06/incredibly-detailed-map-europes-population-shifts/396497/
Eastern section of the map and you'll see that many cities, including Prague, Bucharest, and the Polish cities of Poznań and Wrocław, are ringed with a deep red circle that shows a particularly high rise in average annual population of 2 percent or more.

-That was a few years ago, even busier now imho !!
ldn2krk
17 Jul 2015 #8
Well I've also been applying for the jobs I really want, you know, for the next step in my career etc. and those aren't as low paying. I've applied for a few in Warsaw and Katowice, and while Katowice is within commuting distance, I'd have to move to Warsaw (which I'm prepared to do).

I'll look up Wrocław, thanks eh?
OP Jobsworth
17 Jul 2015 #9
You also need to add a legal statement at the bottom of your cv.

"I consent to the processing of my personal data for the purposes of the recruitment process in accordance with the Act on Personal Data Protection dated 29.08.1997 (Journal of Laws No. 133, item. 883, as amended)."

dont dred mate, Apply, sometimes you apply for one job and they come back with something else.
Also look up large companies there and apply directly. Go for a walk and take some paper and pen and write down business names, look em up. apply
ldn2krk
17 Jul 2015 #10
@Jobsworth I've done all of that... the statement is there. When I see a job ad on a job board I go directly to the company website and apply there if the job is there, if not I apply through pracuj (or other).

I've applied to all the multinationals in KRK too, but still nothing.

Perhaps everyone is on holiday.
OP Jobsworth
17 Jul 2015 #11
We all get those, no replies.
just keep going at it, you need to think, "somewere out there is atleast 1 job for me"

;)
ldn2krk
17 Jul 2015 #12
Yep, there is, there must be :)

I've applied for quite a few that are a perfect match for my CV yet still there is silence.
Jobsworth2
17 Jul 2015 #13
its like that, don't worry its pretty normal at polish standard.

Have you looked at Lodz? UPS just opened a service centre there a week ago.
Its not a great place like Krakow or Warsaw, In fact many people escape Lodz so there is large staff turnovers, so positions always pop up. I think the youthful kids once they get some experience move to where the big money is.

But prices are cheap in Lodz, but so is the salaries... low.
Kamaz
17 Jul 2015 #14
I still have problems with some Scots accents. Here is the Scottish Kiepski youtu.be/lu1UMlNnvb4 He is not as classy as Kiepski
ldn2krk
17 Jul 2015 #15
Ha, loved Rab C as a kid :)

I'll look up £odz, thanks.
AndySlaska
17 Jul 2015 #16
Why would you even bother for such of a joke wage, you would be better of working in the UK or wherever in Western Europe you are from
Wulkan - | 3,251
17 Jul 2015 #17
He said he is Native English speaker.
DominicB - | 2,709
17 Jul 2015 #18
My approach clearly isn't working... or am I being impatient?

I have to agree with the other guys. Why in God's name would you want a lousy low-paid dead-end job is some lousy call center in some grimy backwater town like £ódź? Do you really hate yourself that much?

If this is the best you can manage in Poland, then it's time to pack your bags and head home.
MrT'sWarsawFans
17 Jul 2015 #19
I don't know dominic maybe he comes from some part of the UK where the streets are not paved with gold and the casual jobs that he used to do have been given to Polish and Lithuanians....

just a suggestion
DominicB - | 2,709
17 Jul 2015 #20
Also, if you expect to find a good job by looking on the internet, you need to wake up and smell the coffee. Good jobs are never posted on the internet (unless they have been filled already, and then only for show). The only jobs you'll ever find on the internet are the crumby table scraps that no one else really wants.

Good jobs are advertised exclusively through word of mouth, and offered in face-to-face encounters between real people in the real world. So get out there in the real world and get to know lots of real people. Looking for work on the internet is for hopeless *******.
Lyzko 25 | 7,016
17 Jul 2015 #21
Just an aside. I remember here in New York when firms typically were looking for support staff who spoke British English.
Guess it was considered more status.

How times have changed:-)
MrT'sWarsawFan
17 Jul 2015 #22
" The only jobs you'll ever find on the internet are the crumby table scraps that no one else really wants. "

Yes I think that is a fair assessment.
DominicB - | 2,709
17 Jul 2015 #23
"I don't know dominic maybe he comes from some part of the UK where the streets are not paved with gold and the casual jobs that he used to do have been given to Polish and Lithuanians...."

The painfully obvious answer to that is to move to a better part of the UK, or to a richer country, not to move to the place those Poles and Lithuanians are escaping from in droves.
Gosc123456
17 Jul 2015 #24
Hi Dominic, you are just obsessed with the idea of not coming to Poland for work. But there are a great number of foreign people who work in Poland just not listening to the advice given by uncle Dominic.
MrT'sWarsawFan
17 Jul 2015 #25
" The painfully obvious answer "

yeh it is not that obvious dominic -
Vox - | 175
17 Jul 2015 #26
"yeh it is not that obvious dominic -"
Why ? Care to be a little more specific?
DominicB - | 2,709
17 Jul 2015 #27
you are just obsessed with the idea of not coming to Poland for work.

Why come to Poland when there are plenty of other places where opportunities for employment are much, much better, wagers are much, much higher, chances for advancement are much, much better, and quality of life by any criterion is much, much better? I've never heard anyone give a good answer to that in all my time on this forum, with very, very few exceptional individuals with very exceptional circumstances.

So why should this guy stay in Poland? He can't even find a lousy job in a lousy call center. What point is there in wasting any more time?
MrT'sWarsawFan
17 Jul 2015 #28
I don't know Dominic - why did you spend so long there if it is only for losers?

oh vox sorry - did not see your comment - I meant for example if you live in the Welsh valleys it would probably be easier/cheaper to take a job in Poland than it would be to move to London - just as an example.
DominicB - | 2,709
17 Jul 2015 #29
"I don't know Dominic - why did you spend so long there if it is only for losers?"

My circumstances were extremely exceptional. No comparison at all. And I really resent you trying to put words in my mouth. I loved my time in Poland. A lot. And I never said it is for losers. It's just not for by far most people looking to work or study. Precisely because there are almost always plenty of much better options available.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
18 Jul 2015 #30
Why come to Poland when there are plenty of other places where opportunities for employment are much, much better

I've just been to a party with a lovely group of people. We've been outside drinking in the summer heat without any problems, the food was excellent (all locally sourced) and the atmosphere was perfect. Works for me, and it's a regular thing.

In the UK, it's not normally warm enough to do this at 12-1am. And it rains. A lot.

By the way, in my field (elementary teaching) - opportunities are far easier to come by, wages aren't considerably higher abroad (I don't have C2 German or French, and Finland is notoriously difficult to get into), other systems are incredibly bureaucratic (I spend perhaps 2 hours maximum a week on paperwork, it's nothing). Career progression is also laid out and isn't subject to stupid whims - and there are endless opportunities within education in Poland if you're willing to put a little bit of effort in.

As far as I'm concerned, the quality of life is just fine, employment opportunities are abundant (not many qualified native English speakers here that can actually work in a real school environment as opposed to a language school). Works for me.

I go on two foreign holidays a year, usually 2-3 weeks in summer and 1 week in winter. I visit Germany, the Czech Republic and Slovakia frequently, and I can indulge in both summer and winter sports freely and inexpensively.

Don't forget that culture plays a huge part in it. I find Polish culture to be quite agreeable. I'm quite fond of the Balkan culture, but for instance, Slovenia (which is a nice country) has a culture of police sneakiness to extract fines. Austria is top of my "I want to live there" list - but Austrian xenophobia is incredible.


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