Food / St Nicholas gingerbread [6]

I used to buy them at Kraków Main Square "Jarmark Świąteczny", but I haven't been there for the last three years.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4501]

I don't know about history of words and /or surnames but bryłka is not only about earth.
translatica.pl/slowniki/po-angielsku/bryłka

it could be ice, gold, rock, coal ...

News / Krakow, Poland considers co-hosting the Winter Olympic in 2022 with Slovakia (UPDATE) [30]


We are Poles. If we win something we call it miracle ;P. It doesn't mean we stop trying. And we did host Euro 2012.

Language / Addressing a widow who lives in Poland [12]

Actually the doktorowa , prezesowa, profesorowa (or inżynierowa - drives my mum crazy) are still sometimes used. We have prezydentowa - wife of president.

And there used to be that Tomaszowa, Józefowa, Karolowa thing, but it went out of use even before surnames with -owa and -ówna

News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]


leave the guy, now you take it out of context. He is trying to retell the story using different words.

News / Krakow, Poland considers co-hosting the Winter Olympic in 2022 with Slovakia (UPDATE) [30]

Are we talking about chances? I don't think anybody actually believes we could win. Just as nobody believed about 2006 , or about Euro 2012 ;)

Food / Sernik Wiedenski [15]

If your polish shop doesn't have "twaróg sernikowy" you could use twaróg en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark_(cheese) as Polonius said. I would say it is a more traditional approach.

Also "mąka tortowa" is a type of flour, it contains only - flour type 450, nothing else. We don't have self-raising flour in Poland.

News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]


this is where I point out thet after watching a bit of a video I understand what he wanted to say. But whet then out of context as in dziennik.pl it feels serious. This is why politicians had to say it should be investigated to TVN reporters - because they were given words without context.

Also how good is your Polish? I don't know if I should explain every word to you, some meaning could be lost in translation, and I'm not comfortable discussing this in English, maybe we could move to Polish thread.

News / Krakow, Poland considers co-hosting the Winter Olympic in 2022 with Slovakia (UPDATE) [30]

krakow.gazeta.pl/krakow/1,35798,12936865,Polsko_slowackie_igrzyska_zimowe__Co_trzeba_wybudowac_.html - in pPolish (what needs to be build)

Zakopane tried for 2006 Winter Olympics and Turin won.

Village- we could use Miasteczko studenckie , and build some apartments that would be sold after the event.
New cross-country skiing paths, that are planned but there alvays were not enough money,
Biathlon- we would need to renew one route
Snowboard- we use Jurgowo, 20 km from Zakopane, new
Alpine skiing and freestyle - Thos would have to take place in Slovakia
Hockey - either Sosnowiec/ Katowice or in Slovakia
Figure skating and short track - stadium would be finished by 2014
skating- we would have to build this
curling - stadium for this is going to be build near AWF ( even without Olimpics)
sleighs - most expensive and would have to be build

News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

What the speaker meant : We should have law that punishes treason with death using firing squad. Then few dozen of reporters and other traitors should be investigated and 10% of them would be found guilty and sentenced. (and I may not be precise in English, he believes those 10% are guilty , and that few dozen are not random, there is nothing random in it just the way justice should work and amount of people suspected and probable ratio of the ones really guilty). If there in no punishment for treason people will do whatever they want.

What dziennik.pl says : For example we take 12 GW journalists , 24 people who work at TVN , not to mention other traitors and execute every tenth. If that doesn't happen it means you can do anything there is no punishment.

Imagery in my head : we take those who are believed to be traitors, random dozen journalists and random two dozen tvn workers count to ten and every "number 10" is killed.

Maybe it is just in my head, that is what you get after living too close to "place of execution" (Meaning a wall with a list of people executed there during WWII).

Of course "fakty" said this the way Politicians would have to answer: this should be investigated.

Language / what is the difference between gawędziliśmy and porozmawialiśmy? [5]

You shouldn't learn "gawędziliśmy" i "pogawędziliśmy" to use, just to understand. Rozmawialiśmy/porozmawialiśmy could be always used instead.

Gawędziliśmy is more literary and informal. It's about every-day things or memories, nothing too serious. Also a bit longer.

Language / Polish tattoo for the future (w piekle / raju) [6]

Sounds good,

News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

I would not comment on my surname.
It's possible I said it to strongly. I watched bit of that video, and it didn't feel so strong. Reading excerpt out of context often makes things worse than they are.

And in fact this whole situation makes the idea of journalists as traitors more clear to me.

And when I said "Nazists" I meant "hitlerowcy".
And the words create disturbing image of taking random people from some group that is claimed guilty putting them in line , counting to ten and execututing publicly every "tenth". And maybe that is not only Hitler-ruled Germany thing. But it's what comes to mind of a Pole

i just read what I wrote before, and I can see the mistake I made. when I wrote "stupid hate speak" I meant this is a stupid way to say "hate speak", as in my opinion it put opponents as victims not threat.

and "hate speak" was too strong words

Life / Good account of Poland's Andrzejki? [23]

So today is "Andrzejki". Are you going to celebrate Andrzej's nameday and the last days before Advent? Are you going to predict your future?

News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

Ok I don't feel comfortable discussing in English niuances of speech said in Polish.

What I can say is the wording was unfortunate, reading just that article it felt very strong. Listened to get more context it feels less strong but still a bit disturbing.

And no, after consideration I don't think he should be punished.

And I didn't say misinformation is not deed. I did say you do not execute people just because they work for company you believe is a traitor.

News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

I would take a dozen of reporters from Gw and from two dozen from TVN and traitors and execute every tenth.

I can see how it is more along the lines of having execution as a penalty for treason.

But a penalty should be for deeds.
I feel that I would take a dozen from this group and a dozen from that and execute every tenth feels like a random "threat to everyone".

Life / You are Polish if... [433]

more like cross-country skiing, ski jumping, handball, sailing how is "strzelectwo", "rzut młotem" i "pchnięcie kulą" in English?

We didn't have synhronized swimming team in London Olympic Games , or if we did they didn't do through first round.
"rhythmic gymnastics" could be a bit, but ballet ? :P

Life / You are Polish if... [433]

You forgot to mention - you are devoted fan of a discipline there is a chance a Pole can be a champion.

Life / You are Polish if... [433]


It's not me, its English (UK) spell-check.

Polish people in Poland are Polish and do not need to prove their "polskość" we can joke about it.

Life / You are Polish if... [433]


Ok now I stopped believing in my "Polskość".
I hate football , I like smalec a bit but know it's unhealthy, I don't drink vodka and I know the hitting thing works only on old electric installation. shaking is more useful. Or turning off and on.

News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

What makes "rozstrzelać co dziesiątego" worse is the language. and history.

But it's stupid hate speach - you put yourself as Nazi and other as occupied Poles.

Life / You are Polish if... [433]

Interesting. They forgot about Chopin - it is an interesting stopy about being Polish.

Denomination had a bit of national identity clarification in the past, in places where Poles, Ukrainians and (probably) Belarusians lived and spoke mix of languages or two of them, it was Roman Catholic/ Byzantium Catholic / Orthodox difference that was the most visible.

That is what I were told by my grandma, some other people her age and priests from Roman and Byzantium Catholic Churches.

But being Catholic doesn't mean being Polish, I know some Italians and Spanish that are Catholic.

I would say for me consider other person as fellow Pole it's a mix of ancestry, citizenship, language, cultural/ historical awareness and "feeling Polish". Not all are necessary, but just one is a bit to little.

News / Grzegorz Braun's firing squad? [39]

execute? every 10th? Some people are insane. The message is disturbing.

News / Repopulating Poland with Ukrainians? [67]

I do live in a town with two S John the Baptist Cathedrals at the Katedralna street("Ukrainian" and "Polish"). I know both types of people I spoke about, and they have tendency to make an issue bigger that it is.

But then I'd say let it happen. Ukrainians won't come to poor ,full of unemployed, east of Poland, where their ancestors lived peacefully among Poles before the II WW.

UK, Ireland / Fertile Polish Women in the UK [87]

either I my English much is worse than I think or you can't read and understand. (Tommy please tell me where I went wrong)

I thought Benefits are to support parents and in that to have a steady fertility rate. If you take them off all people in UK including Poles will have lover fertility rate. But among Poles the difference would be smaller than in whole country.

UK, Ireland / Fertile Polish Women in the UK [87]

I just talked about first link, everything about kids, including benefits.
Other are more accountant advertisement. You can get benefits, we will help you. And facebook account has extrime number of "likes" - 58.

Of course Uk's fertility rate is so high compared to Poland's because of those benefits. you stop paying benefits total fertility rate will decrease. I think that decrease will be lower among Poles than average in UK.

Also among those sites with "benefity w UK" is Polish Forums.com

News / Repopulating Poland with Ukrainians? [67]


If that happens I can foresee many Polish "hudsonhicks" talking about Ukraine like him about Poland :(

I fear for Poland and Ukraine to have too big Ukrainian diaspora, because
- some Ukrainins will start we want this or that bit of Poland it has more Ukrainians than Poles.
- some Poles will be even bigger on the whole "Poland for Poles" issue.
We will get in something like Polish/Lithuanian Wilno/ Polish language thing.

UK, Ireland / Fertile Polish Women in the UK [87]


I read a bit and it seems Polish people have trouble with applying for those benefits, they ask what they can apply for in their situation, how long would they wait and things like that.

Children's health in UK, feeding, have that same amount of posts, everything about kids have 10 times more, as pregnancy and childbirth.

They work there, pay taxes and if they can get "benefits" they will apply. It is simple. You have rules that say : if you are/do do this and that you can get benefits.

People go to forum and ask - I have this situation, what can I apply for.

And now nobody knows what I was replying to

UK, Ireland / Fertile Polish Women in the UK [87]

Some Polish people went to UK in 2004, they meant to stay for a bit and come back, but found out they have more opportunities there, then in Poland, they got married and decided to have kids. Some people came to UK and took children with them. Some who lived on benefits here heard stories about how easy it is to get benefits in UK and how much easier life is there so they went there.

I think what hudsonhicks has a problem with is Poles living in UK, not their fertility rate, which is at a replacement level more-less.
It was a part of Polish culture to have 2-3 kids,
UK gets Poland's working class family oriented people, career minded singles are more around all EU.

UK, Ireland / Fertile Polish Women in the UK [87]



Oh, I cope just fine.
It is just that living in a place where there are people that are not easy to be "labelled" means you have to accept that peaple from "your tribe" whatever that means - Lędzianie, Polanie, Polacy, Słowianie, Europejczycy, Ludzie z Eurazji , Ludzie rasy Kaukaskiej, Human beings - are capable of doing good and bad things.