Love / Why are Varsovian women so uninteresting? [23]

Sounds like Latino 'picks a lot of women' succesfully. What he's asking is why can't he get in to women's pants in the capital as easily?

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]

Where do people get the idea that those who live in the USA are stupid and those who live in Poland are so much smarter? Perhaps it is the other way round hence the voting went the way that it did?

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

@ boletus

Where did you get the quotes? That reliable site known as wikiquotes where any twerp can write what they want? Or some other unreliable sight. Why would he say religion is for a brainless person if he was religious?

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

You look my delphian, you always seem to reply to every point I make, negatively of course.

Firstly I am not a kid. Secondly I am slightly dissatisfied with life where I live, not on a financial level, but on a morale level. This is where I see Poland as vastly superior to GB, or it used to be anyway. As for tolerating Kashubians, Ukrainians, Lithuanians etc. They were and are, far closer to the our culture that Asians, Africans and even British folks. As for the values I talk about, I might not live there but I know about its past, Poland not only had the Christian religion for hundreds of years but it was part of its culture. The cross is also a part of the culture. PO does not push this but at least it does not try to get rid of completely, whereas I can think of at least 2 parties who would like to whipe out that past and pretend it was never a part of Poland. PS. I wonder if you could tell me more about yourself and how you got here. You seem to act as if you know a lot about the country, so what is your story? You like to call me a 'fake Polak,' even though I speak in Polish at home, keep a keen eye on what is happening in Poland and have even considered going to Poland permanently a few times. Of course unless I live in the country I can not be a real Polish guy right?

Side note. Apparently 15% of votes were void again [according to TVN i was watching today, not Gazeta Polska].

Love / Should I bring gifts? - help with a Polish wedding [46]

I do not agree with delphiandomine on most stuff, usually political, but money does it seem a bit tacky. I mean you would not give an envelope with money at Christmas because it is practical. The only problem with gifts is that they might get 5 toasters and 5 kettels etc. Unless the people who are invited get together and know who is giving what.

Law / Polish Citizenship, do I have to travel to Warszawa (Warsaw) to get it? [13]

My situations is, Polish parent, live in GB and have not lived in Poland, ever, but speak the language and often go there. Hey if Obraniak can get citizenship with a Polish grandmother I think I can, I just need to get the paperwork gathered together.

Love / Are Polish Girls scared of English Guys [124]


Yes some people make mistakes.

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

Great news! Poland really is changing, for the worse!

One of 2 things are now going to happen.

Either people suddenly realise they have let it get to far and put a stop to it

or

Poland completely turns away from its past and turns in to a GB/USA wannabe, multiculturalist, foreign run, anti Church, do what you want, melting pot. Basically it would lose most of the values it used to have and proudly stand for. I wonder what some of the past greats such as John Paul II and Jozef Pilsudski are thinking?

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

gumishu you mean like sometimes on 'szklo kontaktowe.' PiS is often made fun of on there, but sometimes it is unnoticable unless ya look real close.

Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]

I think it is slightly naive to try to generalise with 'people from here are nice' and 'people from there are rude.' It depends on the person, but I can say this, many Polish people in shops, do not understand the meaning of customer service. Having said that, at least if they are nice to me, I know it is sincere. A lot of Brits can give you all that 'how yoy doing mate' and then stab you in the back and twist the knife. Or not to be a little less extreme, talk crap about you to others.

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

What I find amazing in Poland right now is how a party like RP Palikota is getting nowhere near as much criticism as PiS.

Here are some of their [his] policies

Yes to Abortion
Yes to transexuals, tranvestites and other pervertions.
Attack the Church
Legalise certain drugs

Yes PiS is evil, PiS is bad. They are racist. How dare they be patriotic? How dare they not trust neighbouring countries, even with Poland's past? How dare they be slightly suspicious? The only thing I am sometimes slightly frustrated with is seeing some, I repeat, some of the PiS supporters, during JK speeches, who chant his name every 15 seconds. This sometimes gives PiS electorate a bad name and of course the media jump on it and show it over and over. I do however think, that PO also has its over-enthusiastic supporters who have hatred in their eyes, not to mention RP Palikota. This party, along with PO, got the most votes from prisoners, i.e people who break the law, well how unsurprising.

Language / Kurwa? at end of every sentence [51]

A lot of them seem to have moved to GB. You hear this almost all the time. It's not like an educated person or someone with a bit of class never uses the words, but every sentence, all the time and on public transport or somewhere, it is pathetic. A lot of people who are not Polish now know what it means so it is embarrasing. Anyway to the thread starter, don't say 'why do we say it?' We don't. Your friends do. I don't have any friends like this who swear in every sentence.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]

PWEI you have to stop saying that a person who leaves Poland has turned his back on the country and therefore does not deserve to vote. I know many people who do not live in their countries, but are very patriotic, not just Polish people, but people from other countries. Sometimes someone who leaves is more patriotic than someone who still lives there and does nothing but criticize it. I have heard a lot of folks in Poland say they do not care about the country. Perhaps, as an example, some people left in recent years, as they did not like the way PO was ruling Poland, but they want to vote to put a different party in, and hope to return. Some people leave and then decide to give up their citizenship, that is a different story. Some on the other hand, just want to make a bit of many before returning.

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


Well you could use the same argument for other parties. 60% rejected PO, but yet you think they are 'all the rage.' If PiS is finished then Palikot might as well not bother either [wish he didn't] since 90% rejected him. Same goes for SLD, rejected by about 92%.

I basically disagree with just about everything Palikot stands for. I think PiS is far from finished, they just need a new direction. I agree that they might need a different style and talk about different things in order to bring in new voters. I also don't think there is much of a danger in losing much of their current electorate, even if they made a few changes, because there is no alternative. A PiS voter is not likely to turn to PO, and even less likely to turn to any of the others, even if PiS made a few alterations in their politics.

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

I think Ironside said it well a few posts up. PiS wants the country to be run by the state, to some degree, to avoid the chance of Poland one say being run by a bunch of foreign companies. If you leave it open and let anyone in, the consequences could be worse than you can imagine.

I mean look at Biedronka as just one example. I know it is just a shop but we see adverts of the wonderful Polish products that have, and what? The profits go to foreigners. Great. No imagine railways also being run by foreigners, and perhaps other transport. Factories too. As far as I know there are already a number of factories that are foreign. As you see, slowly but surely the country is going to be a goldmine for foreing businesses, using a Polish worker as labour, and cheap I might add. Hey who knows, eventually they might not even use the Polish people but find foreigners who can do it for even less. I see this happening where I am and do not want to see it happening in Poland. People can laugh it off as a conspiracy theory but if it does happen, it's going to be too late.

Also to comment on polititions who go out and talk to people before the elections. It is getting tedious. Why do they not do this while they are in charge? Pope John Paul II did not go and visit countries in the last few years of his life to show that he cares, he did it throughout his 27 year reign as Pope. What polititians do before an election is what they need to be doing in their 4 years of rule.

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


Er no. Where did you get this information? Is that what Polsat and TVN told you? He went to see many people and so did Tusk, only Tusk did it with a Tusk-o-bus.

As far as him not daring to have a debate with Tusk, that is not because he fears Tusk. He is simply not trusting of the media. The debate would never take a place on an even playing field. Unfortunately they are currently the mainstream media so PiS polititians have to sometimes go on there or they would have practically zero media coverage. They try to get a word in, when they can, but are rarely given the chance to.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]

They way some people talk it is as if PiS being in power for the brief time they were, was the worst thing that has happened to Poland in years. Is PO seriously better? I don't think so.

Gumishu, as for American polonia, I think a lot of them have Polish television as well, I assume, so they probably saw the anti PiS propaganda in the media, but didn't go for it. For some reason people in Poland went for it. I think that living in the USA, even if it is financially better, is not that fun, at least on a morale ground. There is too much liberalism. I see it too in GB. People in Poland, the younger ones, might still have this sort of idealic view of the west, like people had in communist times, and want Poland to go that way. I personally, when I look around where I live, am proud that Poland has stayed true to many of it's values. I don't want it to be some liberal mixed race melting pot like here. Do you know how many people are unhappy here? They talk a good talk but in reality they are devasted at what is going on in the country. Same in the USA probably, and even in France.

Financially I doubt PO and PiS are too different. They might have slightly difference ideas of how to sort [or not sort] problems out, but it is in the morale and social areas of life, as well as fighting for your rights, rather than being a head bobbler who just agrees to do what they are told, where they differ.

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


I know this question was aimed at gumishu but I think he is a good leader who knows his stuff. There is nothing wrong with him being in charge. In terms of winning an election though, I say with a lot of deep regret, that the media has destroyed Kaczynski so much now, that PiS may need someone else to take charge to be able to convince people who don't normally vote for them, to vote for them. Problem is the media might just do the same to whoever took charge of PiS next.

As for the elections themselves. Delphiandomine you made a comment on how there is no Poland A and Poland B and that Poland now supports PO. [About] 40% voted for PO and [about] 30% voted for PiS, if the exit polls are right. How is that a PO dominance?

I was surprised at how well the RP Palikota did. To be honest it shocked me when they made it over 1% so to see them get close to 10% was frightening. I assume he mostly took the SLD electorate, possibly a few unhappy PO voters.

It is a shame [in my view] that PO is still in charge, but it was predictable. This means we are not going to have a fair and detailed investigation in to the airplane crash in Russia, that is put forward by the government [although PiS are still going to do what they can]. It also means corruption is still going to reign supreme in certain areas. I wonder what it is going to take for people to wake up? Perhaps if they find that almost every business in Poland is run by Germans and they are just cheap workers. Perhaps if Putin or Medvedev openly says he cannot stand our country. I dunno.

Language / Polish insult that sounds kinda like " e sha vees ta" ? [16]

It does not sound like anything that I can think of. It might be 'idz [ić?] sie wysraj,' that would mean go do a poo, but that does not sound like something many people say to each other, even to be rude, it just makes no sense to me whatsoever. Unless of course she said it to him when he was moaning that his stomach hurts or wants to go to the bathroom.

Love / Are Polish Girls scared of English Guys [124]


Well I dont remember mentioning that if a Polish girl is with a British guy it is only because she wants to show off her high status. I just said this is often the case and if you look around you can find a lot of example of it. My theory is not going to cover every base and there are going to be situations that do not fit in to it but I think there is a feeling that many Polish girls and perhaps girls from other countries, like to try the unknown. If she goes out with a guy from a different country, it is unusual and slightly exotic, as stupid as it seems. A lot of Polish girls find a Polish man, but if they find a foreigner, they have gone out of the boundries that might have thought were 'holding them back.' These days it is not such a big deal as many Polish girls can do it, back when you were studying, [a long time ago?] it was.

Love / Are Polish Girls scared of English Guys [124]

Personally I am surprised at how many Polish girls do decide to be with a British guy. I tihnk some of them do it just to show off, they have a inferiority complex and want to show friends and relatives that they have 'moved up' in the world, since this country is rich, whatever way you look at it. There might be problems financially like in Europe and generally, the world, but it is still an easier place to live than Poland. I think there is a big cultural difference. I do not know how a girl who has lived in Poland most of her life, then moves here, can accept not speaking in Polish at home and to her children, as many girls, and guys, do. It is strange. I am pretty sure I want to a girl that is Polish as I want to speak in Polish in our house. Hey a Polish girl can make her own decisions and she can marry who she wants but it does not stop me struggling to understand it. I know and have heard of many Polish girls who married a non Polish man and later realised how different their cultures were.

Law / Polish Citizenship, do I have to travel to Warszawa (Warsaw) to get it? [13]

Look at question 2 on the link above. According to this if you are born on British soil , do I have citizenship or would I have it only if it was applied for when I was still a child? Hence do I have to now confirm it or actually apply for it?

londynkg.polemb.net/index.php?document=77

According to this link it says a child aquires citizenship regardless of where it is born as long as one parent is Polish [my situation]. When they say aquires does it mean I just get it or would it have to be applied for? Similar to my question above.

Law / Polish Citizenship, do I have to travel to Warszawa (Warsaw) to get it? [13]

No unfortunately I do not live in Poland. I live in Britain. Does that mean I would have to go to Poland? That is not so much of a problem, just would be better if it does not have to be Warszawa as that is an area I am unfamiliar with. If I could go to a place near where I normally travel to [in Cieszyn or near there] when I go to Poland then that would be more conveniant but obviously if there is no alternative then I can go to Warszawa as well if I had to.

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

I think the newest PO vid clip is below the belt. It is one thing to be promoting your own party, but to try to frighten people about how PiS might win because a lot of fanatical people are going to vote for them, it unfair. They had that clip that had different PiS supporters being rude or aggresive [usually to the mainstream media who they know is anti PiS]. To be honest thought PiS could have done a similar video with anti PiS people being aggresive and singing songs that make fun of PiS and even the Catholic Church. I also find it interesting how one day they say that PO has a 5% advantage in the media, then a day later they say it is PO 32% and PiS %21 or something. They try to mislead. If someone is unsure but was considering voting for PiS and they see that percentage, they might think there use voting for PiS since it is not going to make a difference anyway. Not only that but I doubt it is accurate, I mean how many peeps do you think they ask to get the results?

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


Oh you'd be surprised. That it what PO wants you to think but there a lot of young peep in Poland who support PiS and not they are not all from Toruń. I would say the younger generation who does go for PO are those who like to have a good time, do not care a whole lot about the country [i.e they'll live anywhere as long as they have a nice life] and think PO is cool, hip and 'in the now' because they like to play football and 'have a laugh' sometimes.

As for an ealier post I saw about how PiS only has 'psycho' people who vote for them, why is it that if you are a patriot and stand up for your beliefs, you're proud of the country, want it to be prosperous and are perhaps slightly suspicious of neighbours, who have in the past, done bad things to you, you are seen as a 'nacjonalista' and 'extremist?'

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

I see that the anti PiS retoric by some is still flourishing on here. Mainly delphiandomine, but not only.

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

I'm not sure what streets you hear this on but I have heard many opinions from people who voted for PO in the past, that have said that they feel 'let down' and are not going to vote PO again. Yes the election results show that more people prefer PO, not sure about being satisfied, but certainly PO do have less backing now, even if still more than others [for now, according to surveys, however much you can trust them].

As for SLD. Yes it is true that many PiS supporters would be furious if PiS went with SLD but do you think PO supporters would be happy if PO did it? I think you underestimate just how much a lot of people [apart from an SLD voter obviously] in Poland are against SLD. They are still thought of as commies, so if PO, however we look at it, still a right wing party, had anything to do with SLD, it would be frowned upon.

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

I have to disagree, partially. I do not think PO is going to lose votes because of youth not bothering to turn up to votes. I think there are a lot of people frustrated with the way they have run the country [including football fans].

I think SLD will take some of the frustrated PO voters but Palikot, as much as I dislike this man, is playing his part in taking some of the voters too. Apparently his movement/party now has close to a 5% backing [if what the media say is true, although recently he was supposed to have had only 1%]. Funnily enough this could play in to the hands of PiS. If he takes away some more of the PO frustrated voters, perhaps SLD takes a few more as well, PiS could get really close. The media is frightened of this [TVN, Polsat etc] so they would actually prefer people to vote any other party but PiS, even Palikot, who you might have noticed is getting a lot of TV time lately. The thing is this plan can backfire and work for PiS, because noone else has got a realistic chance of beating PO.

As for the PiS corny advertising. I think they are just trying to appeal to the younger audience who seem to like the 'ura bura' Tusk types, not the old little man Kaczynski types, so they have brought in some youngers candidates. Look above my post, now there is a corny ad [that I mentioned before].

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

Have you seen some of the corny campaign vids? It makes you wonder 2 things. Do they know the meaning of 'cheesy' or 'corny?' Are they even taking this seriously or do they have so much money that they just do not care anymore?

I tried to find the Pawlak clip with the Adamek music and the heavy metal SLD stuff but it is not up on youtube, probably because it is fresh. Has anyone seen them? If you can get hold of these clips then please to post them.